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VOTE: dwlee
dead game, let's see if an E-1 will fix that

-Gamma

In post 815, Roden wrote:

In post 805, Dwlee99 wrote:Koba and I can work well together to find town and kill scum.

Their list was this:
Lady lambdadelta
SirCakez
Roden
Galron
Dwlee99

I would like to vote in:
Infinity Zero (Infinity 324 + Gamma Emerald)
Cephrir
Roden
Zyla
Galron

Crossing off the names I do not want to kill in that list gives me:
Roden
Galron

I think Koba is wrong somewhere here (or maybe more plausibly one of the names I crossed off is scum but that's to be reevaluated some other time.)

For now I want to vote where Koba and I agree, and that's either Roden or Galron. In my own poe I still think IZ is the scummiest. I think they straight up perspective slipped but I'm shelving it for now at least because I townread koba and they've drawn me away from bad tunnels other times

I would vote IZ with you if you changed your vote. Because their push is just illogical and forced at this point, and I'm getting the same vibes I always get from scum teams when town decides to LHF me over literally nothing.

I know I'm town and the almost complete lack of resistance to my wagon should be telling. The fact no one seems to be against Galron being in the PoE makes me think the entire thing is just wrong and that the scum team is in a really good spot. I really don't want to claim and pushing my wagon any further is a really really bad idea.

this is all just ridiculous
you're basically OMGUSing IZ and me
you're claiming there's no resistance to your wagon when you're not even at L-1 despite deadline being close

In post 817, Roden wrote:I said I was on vacation days ago.

In this game state only like three people aren't lurking at this point so that's not really telling.

You literally jump started that mis-elim and said he scum told.

yeah it was an opening push. I obviously did not want to elim someone in the first 48 hours. I had no idea that was going to happen when I dropped my vote. you're trying to frame this like I personally ensured SM was elimmed.

In post 817, Roden wrote:I'm trying to catch up and defend myself? Am I not allowed to do that?

yes you are but you're not doing any scumhunting from what I can see. your only recent pushes are on IZ and me for pushing you.
who is scum? who is town?

I forget if we agreed on claiming flavor but I can prove my role

I can make myself a double voter overnight and then votes against me will also count double. I already checked and it disables in ELO so I won't get instahammered there

In post 822, Roden wrote:

In post 816, Infinity Zero wrote:do you have other suspects that are outside people's poes besides us? lld and dunn are towny to me based on their roles, and koba and zyla are quite towny based on their posting. with 4 townreads i feel good about, poe'ing seems like the best strategy to me.

i'll be honest, your recent pushback has felt pretty genuine to me, but gamma disagrees obviously.

-infinity

I wanted to do Ceph but no one wants to do Ceph. Zyla I'm lean scum on because I've seen her fake town tells before and do it convincingly. Ampharos hasn't really done anything. I don't understand Cakez' scum reads and he only committed to going after me when he got support for it.

My case on your slot is that scum loves to play devil's advocate and defend me when town gangs up on me to get town cred. It's happened literally every single game, and if you're scum then it's a unique twist where one head plays good cop and the other plays bad cop. I want to believe Gamma's AtE rant was genuine but his logic against me is just so bad.

why is Ceph scum?
do you think Zyla's claim is fake?

In post 830, Dwlee99 wrote:I can make myself a double voter overnight and then votes against me will also count double.

cool

UNVOTE: that doesn't really seem like a scum role

-infinity

How so? Seems NAI to me

it seems like it could be possibly useful for town if they weren't really suspected and wanted to push a certain elim, scum would just never use it

gamma thinks it could be a scum role idk

-infinity

Scum could definitely use it though? Makes it easier to push through mislims

dwlee claims means nothing.
if you thought they were scummy before there is no reason to unvote there.

how many times do i need to teach this lesson :focusing on mechs bad.

In post 837, SirCakez wrote:Scum could definitely use it though? Makes it easier to push through mislims

it means a couple pocket scumreads can turn into an elim on you, the risk/reward seems incredibly bad

VOTE: dwlee ok compromising with gamma, and if others disagree with me maybe the mod did too

-infinity

Yeah we still vote that

Koba why won't you intersect our poes after that large normal?

In post 824, Infinity Zero wrote:@Roden I’ll admit we haven’t really had the greatest optics around you yeah. However, I kinda drifted from defending to pushing you fwiw

This may be a bit of a [[Leap of Faith]], but I think I’m willing to take the [[BIG SHOT!!!!]]
We are 2 parts Reimu Hakurei, 1 Part Sadou Maou.
Temperature is set to [[Rise/Fall]] based on receiver tuning. Airwaves have hopefully been cleaned up in advance.

What sort of town slips have you seen Zyla fake before? What do you think of Dwlee? I do think Amy has also been absent for quite a while but honestly she’s at the point of needing replacement

-Gamma

In my first newbie game she fake dumb told on who the Mason pair was and inadvertently got town cred for it, since I didn't think scum had any reason to mention it in the main thread instead of the scum PT. She did the exact same thing in Scarlet Witch where she fake slipped on who she thought the Masons were, which included her scum buddy. She also generally lays low and stays under the radar but I couldn't tell you if that's NAI or not. But the idea that she "town slipped" by not understanding that all players can perform research, not just scum, doesn't read as a genuine thought process since it implies that if town she thought scum had no abilities. Besides that I couldn't even tell you what her thought processes or stances have been all game off the top of my head, I just know she's been firing off her vote a lot.

I don't really think Dwlee has done much, they'll probably say metabad but they've followed their typical town meta of playing a low key early game and sheeping whoever's the loudest player. On the other hand, they're just Null to me as far as being an actual read, and I'll always hammer someone else to save myself if I have to. They're already voting me so consider this .

Dwlee is L-1
should I hammer? hm
p-edit: or Roden can do it too ig

In post 842, Dwlee99 wrote:Koba why won't you intersect our poes after that large normal?

the fact that this is how they reacted to being L-1ed definitely makes me want to hammer

In post 827, SirCakez wrote:

In post 815, Roden wrote:

In post 805, Dwlee99 wrote:Koba and I can work well together to find town and kill scum.

Their list was this:
Lady lambdadelta
SirCakez
Roden
Galron
Dwlee99

I would like to vote in:
Infinity Zero (Infinity 324 + Gamma Emerald)
Cephrir
Roden
Zyla
Galron

Crossing off the names I do not want to kill in that list gives me:
Roden
Galron

I think Koba is wrong somewhere here (or maybe more plausibly one of the names I crossed off is scum but that's to be reevaluated some other time.)

For now I want to vote where Koba and I agree, and that's either Roden or Galron. In my own poe I still think IZ is the scummiest. I think they straight up perspective slipped but I'm shelving it for now at least because I townread koba and they've drawn me away from bad tunnels other times

I would vote IZ with you if you changed your vote. Because their push is just illogical and forced at this point, and I'm getting the same vibes I always get from scum teams when town decides to LHF me over literally nothing.

I know I'm town and the almost complete lack of resistance to my wagon should be telling. The fact no one seems to be against Galron being in the PoE makes me think the entire thing is just wrong and that the scum team is in a really good spot. I really don't want to claim and pushing my wagon any further is a really really bad idea.

this is all just ridiculous
you're basically OMGUSing IZ and me
you're claiming there's no resistance to your wagon when you're not even at L-1 despite deadline being close

IZ is kind of OMGUS but you've legitimately done some scummy shit all game.

I feel bad for them

That was for a dead chat, my bad

In post 828, SirCakez wrote:

In post 817, Roden wrote:I said I was on vacation days ago.

In this game state only like three people aren't lurking at this point so that's not really telling.

You literally jump started that mis-elim and said he scum told.

yeah it was an opening push. I obviously did not want to elim someone in the first 48 hours. I had no idea that was going to happen when I dropped my vote. you're trying to frame this like I personally ensured SM was elimmed.

You're acting like you had zero responsibility or that scum couldn't have done that. I don't know why you think you should be cleared from that.

In post 829, SirCakez wrote:

In post 817, Roden wrote:I'm trying to catch up and defend myself? Am I not allowed to do that?

yes you are but you're not doing any scumhunting from what I can see. your only recent pushes are on IZ and me for pushing you.
who is scum? who is town?

I literally wrote a reads list earlier that we both disputed? And then brought up further names? What are you talking about?