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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:13 am
by Datisi
In post 819, Taly wrote:I want to hear the justification behind Ydra/Taly support though
i'm shit at reading her and pairing with the ic is a lowkey cop check if people townread her :upside_down:

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:14 am
by marcistar
In post 823, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 781, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 714, Save The Dragons wrote:does anyone even want to dance with me or am i getting sloppy eighths
Who do you want?
that's a good question. i'd do LLD but i'm not sure i'd make a good partner for her
would u wanna go for lily or malakittens at all?

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:16 am
by Save The Dragons
i'd like them to post more before i'd go for them

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:17 am
by Prism
In post 819, Taly wrote:I want to hear the justification behind Ydra/Taly support though
I don't have any comment on her play this game. I am swamped right now between my V/LA, work, my grad school applications, and other commitments. I know I need to, but rotating priorities and such. (And I will take appropriate action if the level of dedication continues to lower.)

As players, though, I think you'd make an unusually good fit. You both enjoy a lot of levity in games, you both enjoy private topics a lot, and Ydrasse generally struggles to keep motivation, especially as town when she doesn't have the weight of the team on her (fucking shredded) shoulders. She takes a very tonal approach to reads but is definitely capable of more analytical analysis, while I think you're the perfect inverse.

I think you'll both have fun, we'll get more content out of it, and I think you'd be complementary pieces in style. I do have concerns about blindspots (Ex. She gets a wrong read, you latch on and grab the chariot+sword of fire, and off to the races both of you go) but the same or worse is true of every pairing.

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:21 am
by Prism
I am honestly surprised that cat hasn't latched onto a scumread of me for the low effort; constant delays and indifference to play is historically an exclusively scum move for me. My motivation as town can flag but I am nowhere close to even meeting the baseline, and I'm surprised he hasn't commented on it.

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:22 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 12, catboi wrote:I want to relax and not stress myself this game

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:23 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
I'll consider Marci's offer, but I am admittedly interested in what others will do wrt offering me.

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:24 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 831, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I'll consider Marci's offer, but I am admittedly interested in what others will do wrt offering me.
what a surprise

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:25 am
by GuiltyLion
if marci is town LLD accepting a different offer is a literal scumclaim btw

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:25 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
GL I am excited to see you flip red lmfao

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:26 am
by GuiltyLion
we both know that's not going to happen

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:27 am
by Datisi
In post 833, GuiltyLion wrote:if marci is town LLD accepting a different offer is a literal scumclaim btw
i don't get it, eli5?

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:28 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 836, Datisi wrote:
In post 833, GuiltyLion wrote:if marci is town LLD accepting a different offer is a literal scumclaim btw
i don't get it, eli5?
It's bad logic. If anything, the inverse should be true?

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:31 am
by GuiltyLion
I mean if you're scum!LLD and town!marci proposes to you, do you want to accept that pairing? Marci is pretty high on the "likely to be limmed" list and LLD is scum I would think has good odds of going deep

I also don't really know what LLD's read on marci is. if town!LLD townreads marci, why not pair with marci? if town!LLD scumreads marci, why not pair with marci and volunteer to be limmed/leave? that's what I would do

also, I just don't feel like it's all that likely that both are town given the number of my other townreads and my sense of the gamestate at the moment. if they are then I'm definitely suckered somewhere, but again, don't see why town!LLD can't accept a marci proposal and it's not like she's expressed a strong interest in any other people that she particularly wants to pair with

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:32 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
The truth is GL is opportunistically looking for anything they can push me on to rebut my push and discredit this.

My thoughts are that they are either aiming for this to look like a TvT to others (if scum) or are actively incapable of accepting others can scumread their play via arrogance, and are death tunneled in OMGUS (if town).

Their "you can't even read me" first reaction has some of those elements but again, if I was in GL's shoes I would respond exactly how they are to try and worm from it.

But as I have said before, losing confidence and backing off from reads like this usually loses me games so I am pretty willing to let this ride.

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:32 am
by GuiltyLion
I do think this points pretty strongly away from marci/LLD S-S, so that's useful info I guess

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:33 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 839, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:The truth is GL is opportunistically looking for anything they can push me on to rebut my push and discredit this.
the truth is I am happy to volunteer myself to leave the game and am doing everything I can to ensure a favorable gamestate beyond that. You're the one who needs to navigate/maneuver how you'll play into the dance phases. I'll let my flip speak for itself

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:33 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 838, GuiltyLion wrote:I mean if you're scum!LLD and town!marci proposes to you, do you want to accept that pairing? Marci is pretty high on the "likely to be limmed" list and LLD is scum I would think has good odds of going deep

I also don't really know what LLD's read on marci is. if town!LLD townreads marci, why not pair with marci? if town!LLD scumreads marci, why not pair with marci and volunteer to be limmed/leave? that's what I would do

also, I just don't feel like it's all that likely that both are town given the number of my other townreads and my sense of the gamestate at the moment. if they are then I'm definitely suckered somewhere, but again, don't see why town!LLD can't accept a marci proposal and it's not like she's expressed a strong interest in any other people that she particularly wants to pair with
I don't town read them. I have no real reason to as of yet. However, I was possibly interested in mentoring them.

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:34 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 839, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:actively incapable of accepting others can scumread their play via arrogance, and are death tunneled in OMGUS (if town).
lol, already starting with the "GL was just bad town" nonsense that I predicted

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:35 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 701, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm going to ignore your leading question, I've said my piece, if you 'win' this and I go down today I'll go down calling for Cabd's head and yours immediately after in short order and I will make damn sure everyone else does not tolerate any nonsense about how "GL was just bad town" or whatever
the thing is, if you're town then it doesn't matter because Marci is likely scum in that world. so Marci/LLD pair leaving is win-win for me

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:35 am
by Datisi
In post 838, GuiltyLion wrote:if town!LLD scumreads marci, why not pair with marci and volunteer to be limmed/leave?
this made me "???" again

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:36 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 841, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 839, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:The truth is GL is opportunistically looking for anything they can push me on to rebut my push and discredit this.
the truth is I am happy to volunteer myself to leave the game and am doing everything I can to ensure a favorable gamestate beyond that. You're the one who needs to navigate/maneuver how you'll play into the dance phases. I'll let my flip speak for itself
Deal. If you flip town I plan to have to throw out my reads anyway.

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:37 am
by GuiltyLion
@Dats, why? in my shoes right now I'd pair with marci and leave. I don't have an endgame condition other than all scum are eliminated, and if I'm not getting my first choice of an obvtown then that's a useful way to play, to ensure that my death means that a scumread also goes down

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:38 am
by Firebringer
GL u might need a thread break buddy

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:38 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 847, GuiltyLion wrote:@Dats, why? in my shoes right now I'd pair with marci and leave. I don't have an endgame condition other than all scum are eliminated, and if I'm not getting my first choice of an obvtown then that's a useful way to play, to ensure that my death means that a scumread also goes down
Interesting.

You are willing to, if allowed to pair, instantly leave?

If so we can weaponize you to pair with a gent we want dead possibly... Which is preferable to just leaving you in the cold