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Mage: Gun to head Dwlee&Jjh scum team. If it isn't that easy, we just lose the game because we firmly believe Flea and Roden are town. If one is wrong, it's Flea but we have been pretty certain on Flea's tone throughout.

Well I'm not scum and jjh is obvtown so good luck with that solve

In post 824, Dwlee99 wrote:Unless you're trying to use the fights as a night kill?

Or you just forgot it'd be obvious if anyone looked

Mage: That sounds like a pretty dumb thing to forget

Okay I'm gonna get clowned if jjh is scum for that last thing but also... idk I have townread there the whole game and he fought Pooky in the first fight which makes me think not scum for a multitude of reasons

You seem kinda annoyed that you forgot tbh

Mage: If jjh isn't scum, you are. There is no way both of you are town because my two townreads are not the scum team.
Faerie: One might be wrong but never both.

In post 829, Dwlee99 wrote:You seem kinda annoyed that you forgot tbh

Faerie: We are annoyed that this crappy argument is even being brought up.

I mean you're an alt so idk your tract record but uh I've seen people townread the whole scum team in ELO so yea

Okay look, there's 5 choose 2 = 10 possible pairs. One of them vote in block

Mage: If you are town, the scum team is jjh and Flea.
Faerie: We don't think you are town right now.

In post 833, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay look, there's 5 choose 2 = 10 possible pairs. One of them vote in block

Faerie: Your point?

Damn, I hadn't even noticed that they always voted together

So maybe if out of 10 pairs, one has a special property, it is significant to consider

In post 331, Jingle wrote:Fighter A: Batman with six months prep time was submitted by jjh927.
Fighter B: A bear made of metal. was submitted by a disinterested party on behalf of PookyTheMagicalBear, who failed to submit a fighter on time.

A: Faerie Mages, Radical Rat, Not_Mafia, Roden, jjh927, Flea the Magician, Temporal Lich, Enchant
B: Dwlee99, PookytheMagicalBear, Firebringer,

The bear made of metal lies cold and dead, as does Pooky, it's master. Pooky was:

TOWN

Your solve also would mean you think I voted against jjh when he was my partner which...?

In post 612, Jingle wrote:Fighter A: Natsuki Subaru in the Ayamatsu IF Timeline was submitted by Firebringer.
Fighter B: Incorporeal voices whispering dad jokes endlessly was submitted by Flea the Magician.

A: Galron, jjh927, Firebringer
B: TemporalLich, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, Roden, Radical Rat, Flea the Magician, Faerie Mages

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"Why aren't previous generations of ants called antcestors?"
"Did you know that the person who invented the Merry-Go-Round and the person who invented the Ferris Wheel never actually met each other? They just travelled in different circles."
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Time travel.
When do we want it?
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You know what? Fuck this. I'm out. Natsuki Subaru has given up on the fight, taking Firebringer with him. Firebringer was:

TOWN

Oh and hey, jjh voted against flea LOL

Honestly that's huge

I was looking at it in terms of;
I've been pretty vocally hard townreading Roden. Roden has had plenty of thread influence and plenty of TRs. Town!Roden was absolutely not a mislim target. Why wasn't Roden in that last fight instead of Not Mafia?
Faerie Mages is pretty much lockscum for me now even more so looking at the defence against Dwlee's push. I would be happy to go into detail if we need it but I'm not sure we do. Roden has some pretty clear associatives with Faerie, particularly given the previous day phase. If they've always made the same votes in the fights that's kinda beyond coincidence, particularly given they both voted for NM to win that fight and I don't think that makes much sense given their reads. NM was just the preferred winner for scum due to his chaotic presence

In post 840, jjh927 wrote:NM was just the preferred winner for scum due to his chaotic presence

Ding ding ding

I am confident I will just vote Faerie Mages here but I'm gonna think about it for a bit


Particularly since I'm probably gonna end up in a fight with Roden in the night phase

I genuinely think Roden as scum would attempt to coordinate votes better to prevent this happening - Is that something that naturally occured to you dwlee, or did you go hunting for that?
Cause NGL given all the votes are anon I would imagine the team trying to coordinate votes better. If anything I would imagine looking for any differing votes on a midgame fight where it's less likely to be noticed.


ignoring pedits cause submit and forget is a thing
x2

If you think scum would coordinate their votes in any way at all then look for strange votes

like, idk, people voting for the clearly Not Mafia option when they say they scumread Not Mafia

In post 843, Flea The Magician wrote:I genuinely think Roden as scum would attempt to coordinate votes better to prevent this happening - Is that something that naturally occured to you dwlee, or did you go hunting for that?
Cause NGL given all the votes are anon I would imagine the team trying to coordinate votes better. If anything I would imagine looking for any differing votes on a midgame fight where it's less likely to be noticed.


ignoring pedits cause submit and forget is a thing
x2

I saw Roden/Faerie vote for NM and thought "that's weird, I wonder about their previous voting patterns" and then went through them

yeah i got nothing, dwlee is an early stand out, jjh is pretty solid town

In post 812, jjh927 wrote:If we'd voted there in the last day phase we'd have had more insurance as well because as I kept fucking saying it was optimal to lim in those who have already fought

Would have been massively >50% odds of winning whereas now I'd say we're well under that

Might've been tempted if anyone took this game seriously enough to defend themselves when they were run up tbh. But between the quick hammers and the OMGUS, nobody was really playing. And if scum were in the fighters like you said then you never were going to get votes to dig through there.

Thing is that we probably would've voted Flea yesterday if I listened to you, who you now believe to be town, and we'd be stuck in an even worse ELo today if fae did flip green. I really don't see how our chances would be higher today unless both Flea and Faerie are scum, but I have a hard time believing either are tbh.

Ah, right, you're having a hard time believing either of them are scum but the only other players are me, you, and dwlee, and there are 2 scum