MT 2263: Web of Lies - Game Over

[Morning Tweet]

I'll come back later.

[House]

You were warned.

And you are vicious and unpleasant.

Glad we're on the same page.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I've done nothing but be cordial this game with you while you treat me poorly, say bigoted things and refuse to accept blame or apologize when you do something wrong.

I could happily go the rest of my life without dealing with more of that, so I'm not going to be the one to deal with it.

[House]

You told me not to something.

Unless I do it again, I guess you are going to be the one to deal with it.

[House]

I don't apologize about something I did that owns someone when that person themselves is offensive.

[House]

I don't apologize about something I did that offends* someone when that person themselves is offensive.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like it is very apparent to me that you were having a great time making jokes at my expense and talking down to me until I told you I would be reporting you.

And both times when I suggested I would be referring this behaviour to moderation, you went from disrespectful to aggressive.

I've dealt with hundreds of men like you in my workplaces. I'm honestly exhausted with it, and I don't need another one in a party game I play online for fun and relaxation.

So think what you want of me, your opinion doesn't matter to me in the slightest.

But you will face consequences for being a jerk, every time you're a jerk. And if you're not happy with facing consequences, might I suggest evaluating your own behaviour and not being a jerk.

[House]

I tried to make peace with you.

You wouldn't even talk last night when I mentioned is talking in a hood y yesterday.

This is apparently what you want.

[House]

You go around wanting to be angry, you'll always find an excuse.

That's how anger works. Speaking from experience.

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #5

Enchant

(1): Dunnstral (614)

Bell

(2): Enchant (689), House (744)

Not Voting

(8): Noraa, Morning Tweet, StrangeMatter, Flea The Magician, Lukewarm, Lady Lambdadelta, Bell, Almost50

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to fade a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no later than Monday, February 28, 2022 10:00:00 PM EST or in (expired on 2022-02-28 22:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: Please let me know if you have a different pronoun preference than listed below.

Pronoun Key

1: House : he/his
3: Dunnstral : he/his
4: Lady Lambdadelta : she/her
5: Almost50 : he/his
6: Lukewarm : he/his
7: Enchant : no preference
8: Bell : he/his
9: StrangeMatter : she/her
11: Morning Tweet : she/her
12: Noraa : she/her
13: Flea The Magician : fae/faer

[House]

I met Mathblade IRL before he got his operation.

It took me some corrections, but I've gotten used to referring to him as such, now.

I'm not the hateful one between us.

[Noraa]

House the magician o-o

Yes. Watch me pull a Dunnstral scumread... *poof*...

OUT OF THIN AIR!

no wonder ur not as famous as flea tsk tsk

[House]

House the magician o-o

Yes. Watch me pull a Dunnstral scumread... *poof*...

OUT OF THIN AIR!

no wonder ur not as famous as flea tsk tsk

Lol

[Flea The Magician]

can someone just explain to me the mech conf clears and the house spew clear? Flea specifically because it seems like fae has all the cards WRT that?

I get the Flea clear, given Malcom slipped TO FLEA. Just need to fact check the others before I start realigning where my head is at.

Again, I refuse to lose 3 games in a row to a fake clear, so.

The timing and phrasing of the Malcolm flip indicates their partners are not voting for them at the time the slip was made, that cleared Stephen and clears house on spew.

I get the Steven one... but House had been moving his vote around a decent amount.

Call it me not wanting to let go of my pet read but are you certain we're taking them off the board? It's sufficient to take them off the board for at least today, I'm not arguing that.

But is this on the same level of clear as You Nora and SM are, or is this just "more likely not to be"?

He's completely off the board for me, The timing of the vote and VC are enough for me, I'll go back and get approx timeframes if it helps you. Barring YOLO I don't touch house at all here.

It's that 100% clear? Even if House was bussing?

Like... I'm going to propose a scenario to you and you tell me if that would make sense from the timing. I'm just going to choose to trust your perspective on it since I know you're town and you have the info.

If House is bussing, could the written message have been a kind of "back off" or even a "go ahead and bus me I'm dead" style message that was written without thought BECAUSE of House bussing?

If I'm at 99% clear I put house at 95% which is the highest I can give for that kinda spew.

[House]

Noraa, I'm the kind of guy that can go from death tunneling a player to claiming Masons with them instantly.

I troll around for funsies.

Keeps scum and town both on their toes.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

can someone just explain to me the mech conf clears and the house spew clear? Flea specifically because it seems like fae has all the cards WRT that?

I get the Flea clear, given Malcom slipped TO FLEA. Just need to fact check the others before I start realigning where my head is at.

Again, I refuse to lose 3 games in a row to a fake clear, so.

The timing and phrasing of the Malcolm flip indicates their partners are not voting for them at the time the slip was made, that cleared Stephen and clears house on spew.

I get the Steven one... but House had been moving his vote around a decent amount.

Call it me not wanting to let go of my pet read but are you certain we're taking them off the board? It's sufficient to take them off the board for at least today, I'm not arguing that.

But is this on the same level of clear as You Nora and SM are, or is this just "more likely not to be"?

He's completely off the board for me, The timing of the vote and VC are enough for me, I'll go back and get approx timeframes if it helps you. Barring YOLO I don't touch house at all here.

It's that 100% clear? Even if House was bussing?

Like... I'm going to propose a scenario to you and you tell me if that would make sense from the timing. I'm just going to choose to trust your perspective on it since I know you're town and you have the info.

If House is bussing, could the written message have been a kind of "back off" or even a "go ahead and bus me I'm dead" style message that was written without thought BECAUSE of House bussing?

If I'm at 99% clear I put house at 95% which is the highest I can give for that kinda spew.

Kay.

I'll do more of the actual work this game needs later.

[Flea The Magician]

I don't apologize about something I did that offends* someone when that person themselves is offensive.

The difference between a cis woman and a trans woman is the incredible levels of dysphoria and self awareness a transwoman has.

What you've just said is no excuse House, doesn't matter if someone is offensive because lets face it thats open season on you and we're better than that.

[Noraa]

being friends with a trans person doesnt mean you cant be transphobic intentionally or unintentionally. we all make mistakes but it's important to realize them and be more mindful moving forward

[House]

I don't apologize about something I did that offends* someone when that person themselves is offensive.

The difference between a cis woman and a trans woman is the incredible levels of dysphoria and self awareness a transwoman has.

What you've just said is no excuse House, doesn't matter if someone is offensive because lets face it thats open season on you and we're better than that.

And as I said, unless I do said offensive thing again, she can deal with me not bending over backwards to appease her because I'm simply not going out of my way to be nice to someone that isn't.

[House]

being friends with a trans person doesnt mean you cant be transphobic intentionally or unintentionally. we all make mistakes but it's important to realize them and be more mindful moving forward

It's not about being friends.

I don't think we consider ourselves friends at all, at least, at the moment.

It's an illustration that I do put in the effort to honor the wishes of others.

[Flea The Magician]

To give you an idea of timeframes LLD, House votes here - Malcolm slips in around 2 minutes time, next post count is post 208

If you want to go look at interactions around then go for it, theres no way malcolm doesn't know he slipped though.

[Bell]

It is I. Bell the peace maker.

I’m here to kill somebody.

VOTE: StrangeMatter

[Dunnstral]

Why StrangeMatter?

[Dunnstral]

Asking to murder ish't scummy

Depends on whether he's in a hood with SM with the claim.

Uh.

VOTE: Bell

I'm gonna wait for Lukewarm to weigh in on this.

Bell told us that he suggested a vig shot on SM before the claim. That is actually why SM claimed in the hood.

I figured out how to use her ability to get a result on Noraa.

I told everyone to not hood Noraa so it could work.

Noraa outed as a mass neighborizor, and I told her that she needed to put SM in her hood with her.

*** This is when bell asked if he should tell the education hood not to vig SM

I dont know that I made this clear in the hood, but I was against him changing his stance - I had no reason to believe there was actually a vig, and did not want to let more people know what was going on with Sm's claim in case shenanigans. Also, since the plan was for SM to go into Noraas hood with a few other people, I figured we would get Sm's result anyways if I was wrong and there was a vig and that vig shot sm.

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Once we changed the plan to NOT put SM in Noraas hood, we should have revisit it, but that was pretty close to end of the night phase, and it never got talked about

So... did this not happen?

[House]

It is I. Bell the peace maker.

I’m here to kill somebody.

VOTE: StrangeMatter