Mini 709 - Musical Mafia - (Game Over!)

[Gamma]

EBWOP:

fos MME

[Knight of Cydonia]

You wanna try that again, Gamma? We got the idea, but if you're a perfectionist, y'know...

[Knight of Cydonia]

Incidentally, I just spoke to RBT, and apparently he can't confirm or debunk the theory that one of my woodwind results may be a Serial Killer.

[My Milked Eek]

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KoC;
What kind of description did you get on your investigation? Not Mafia? Town?

Also;
I didn't want to say the obvious deduction from my post that I too am a suspect. I guess it appears I was trying to shift suspicion onto them, which I wasn't, I had actually typed a "so there are 3 suspects by proces of elimination" line, but I felt it to be a stupid one to have.

Gamma, what makes you think there are two left?

[Knight of Cydonia]

I was told that Gamma and magisterrain are "definitely woodwind".

[Gamma]

Gamma, what makes you think there are two left?

Two or more.

You wake up find that one of you again has not come to practice. Upon taking roll, you find that Wall-E does not show up. You go to his house, and see that his bassoon has been hung up on the wall, where it rests when it's not being used.

He references that people were outside his house keeping him up all night

.

Wall-E Bassoon Player (Doctor) - Forced Out N3

D4 begins! With six alive, it takes four to end the day.

People is plural.

Now I'm going to advance really, really far ahead.

If KoC is telling the truth, we have three confirmed town (him as cop, I, magisterrain or whoever replaces him), which leaves three: WhereIsTony, RestFermata, and you.

[RestFermata]

I'm really sorry about that, KoC. We're all pulling for you.

MME, I have thought for the whole game that you were town. In fact, we have the same reason for calling each other town--the clarinet player thing. It is well-known that in some games the scum are given the vanilla town PM for fakeclaims, but the way you backed Nekka up after he claimed clarinet seemed genuine and not a setup, so I believed you.

You also believed me because of this. But now that we are down to the wire and you are definitely in a small pool of suspects along with me, you are willing to disregard that. It really

does

look like you were trying to shift suspicion away from yourself. I know that when you are town, from your POV it is easy to forget that you are as much a suspect as another, but we can't afford these kinds of moves so late in the game.

I don't think there is a Serial Killer, KoC, because Serial Killers are usually required to kill every night, right? And Gamma apparently didn't submit a kill, just like you asked him not to. The Mafia Roleblocker is dead. If you are thinking it is someone other than Gamma, then we have not seen a kill from the SK yet, so I find it unlikely.

So, I am most suspicious of WIT right now. The way he voted ToD very early in the wagon reads like someone with extra information, and it really does seem like a bus to me. Look at this:

my suspect list from scummiest to cleanest

Wall-E
corporate
jerseygoomba
Tolmides
Budja
Atlas
Gamma
RestFermata Nekka-Lucifer
zachattack
JordanA24
My Milked Eek
WhereIsTony

And he has not stuck to this at all. I was 8th scummiest, yet I became very high on his suspicions list later on. He never said anything about ToD's posts (avoiding the scumbuddy? maybe so) and yet JordanA24 was close to cleanest until people started suspecting him...perhaps he felt it was time to throw him under the bus before people started suspecting him of defending a scumbuddy. I'm not sure, but it looks kind of bad to me. Additionally, he was right about there being a Mafia Roleblocker. Surprise!

I know it's WIFOM, but ToD's parting comments toward WIT make him look more like a scumbuddy than toward MME. We know ToD was angry with his scumbuddy for submitting the wrong kill. So although it could be a trick, I can't help but take into account that ToD may have been giving us more information than he intended.

As for me, I am a suspect, and I will attempt to defend myself against any accusations brought at me. I will not speak for Nekka-Lucifer, but I will debunk what I think was the main case against him:

1.) Nekka-Lucifer accuses Gamma of quoting his role PM when Gamma says something about "I win when the woodwinds win"

2.) Others accuse Nekka-Lucifer of not having the town PM, and Nekka claims clarinet player.

Clarinet player has been proven to be the vanilla townie role. So if Nekka-Lucifer was scum, he definitely had knowledge of the Clarinet Player role--most likely a copy of the town role PM, which is usually done in games when scum are given vanilla as a fakeclaim, no? So even as scum he would have knowledge of this PM. Scum or town, he genuinely forgot the win condition. So this is no case at all--it is a nulltell.

And that is all I can say for Nekka-Lucifer.

[WhereIsTony]

No I jhave not stuck to it, because at the time I thought JG was scum and once he turned out not to be it changed my opinion.

As for ToD I do not know what he meant and am actually looking forward to the end of the game to ask.

I don't think ToD would give up a scum buddy unintentionally.

I went for ToD early because I have decided to believe that gamma was town, and since he is the only one I have very strong town feeling with I am going to vote with him, when i am unsure.

[Knight of Cydonia]

So all your votes from now on are going to be justified with "I'm just following Gamma?" I don't like this kind of remora fish play, and I think it's scummy.

Unvote; Vote: WhereIsTony

On the off-chance that I survive the night, I will investigate Rest, Gamma will kill MME. That way, we either find the scum and lynch them, or just shoot them.
As your Cop, I hereby endorse a lynch of WhereIsTony today.

[My Milked Eek]

Gamma, what makes you think there are two left?

Two or more.

You wake up find that one of you again has not come to practice. Upon taking roll, you find that Wall-E does not show up. You go to his house, and see that his bassoon has been hung up on the wall, where it rests when it's not being used.

He references that people were outside his house keeping him up all night

.

Wall-E Bassoon Player (Doctor) - Forced Out N3

D4 begins! With six alive, it takes four to end the day.

People is plural.

Now I'm going to advance really, really far ahead.

If KoC is telling the truth, we have three confirmed town (him as cop, I, magisterrain or whoever replaces him), which leaves three: WhereIsTony, RestFermata, and you.

As KoC suggested, I would not mind you nightkilling me if this advances the town's needs. I'd of course want you to shoot one of the other two, but in the end it all comes down to the same thing.

Also, I'd rather not base a suspicion of remaining scum on a morning text. I think rbt will once again come forth and claim that there is nothing to be read into that text other than the death and alignment of Wall-E.

MME, I have thought for the whole game that you were town. In fact, we have the same reason for calling each other town--the clarinet player thing. It is well-known that in some games the scum are given the vanilla town PM for fakeclaims, but the way you backed Nekka up after he claimed clarinet seemed genuine and not a setup, so I believed you.

You also believed me because of this. But now that we are down to the wire and you are definitely in a small pool of suspects along with me, you are willing to disregard that. It really

does

look like you were trying to shift suspicion away from yourself. I know that when you are town, from your POV it is easy to forget that you are as much a suspect as another, but we can't afford these kinds of moves so late in the game.

I didn't forget I was a suspect. As said I found it a stupid line to include. In retrospect, I should have, but yeah, too late for that.

I don't think there is a Serial Killer, KoC, because Serial Killers are usually required to kill every night, right? And Gamma apparently didn't submit a kill, just like you asked him not to. The Mafia Roleblocker is dead. If you are thinking it is someone other than Gamma, then we have not seen a kill from the SK yet, so I find it unlikely.[
/quote]
There is one other possibility left. The mafia are all dead and there is an sk. Of course, this speculation is disregarding KoC's claim.

And he has not stuck to this at all. I was 8th scummiest, yet I became very high on his suspicions list later on. He never said anything about ToD's posts (avoiding the scumbuddy? maybe so) and yet JordanA24 was close to cleanest until people started suspecting him...perhaps he felt it was time to throw him under the bus before people started suspecting him of defending a scumbuddy. I'm not sure, but it looks kind of bad to me. Additionally, he was right about there being a Mafia Roleblocker. Surprise!

I know it's WIFOM, but ToD's parting comments toward WIT make him look more like a scumbuddy than toward MME. We know ToD was angry with his scumbuddy for submitting the wrong kill. So although it could be a trick, I can't help but take into account that ToD may have been giving us more information than he intended.

Are you talking about this post? There isn't an explicit message towards tony, do you think the absense of an explicit message (or notification) of tony is the same as tony trying to avoid jordan/tod?


So, concluding, are we going to do:
- lynch tony
- nk mme
- investigate rf
?

[RestFermata]

I was referring to this

Tony, you already know what I'm going to tell you, I don't need to say it.

[RestFermata]

Oh, and MME, theoretically that would work, but if KoC dies then we will never know the results of the investigation.

[My Milked Eek]

If KoC dies, we (as in the others) lynch you on D5.

[Knight of Cydonia]

So, concluding, are we going to do:
- lynch tony
- nk mme
- investigate rf
?

If KoC dies, we (as in the others) lynch you on D5.

This. Even if I die, assuming Gamma is not an SK (which seems more and more likely), we win by sheer attrition. With gamma's kill, we can take down 2 of the 3 who aren't cleared, leaving either a win tonight or tomorrow. Playing the numbers FTW.

[My Milked Eek]

Ok, then that is the plan I'm going to follow as well.

Vote: WhereIsTony

So Gamma, nightkill me.


...

That sounded a bit too sm-y for my likings...

[WhereIsTony]

Well no sense in stretching this

vote tony

[RestFermata]

Guess we're ready? Seems straightforward enough.

Vote: WhereIsTony

Unless I missed something and Tony hammered himself, this was the hammer.

[Riceballtail]

End of Day 4 Votecount: WhereIsTony: (4) KnightofCydonia, MyMilkedEek, WhereIsTony, RestFermata



After another short meeting, you decide that you are down to three people who could still be causing problems. After a short debate, the group reaches the consensus that WhereIsTony should go first. He runs into the closet, and hides

in his tuba case

saying that he'd never give up.

After wheeling him out of the hall, you suddenly have the brilliant idea of "Hey, why didn't we just all open our lockers in the first place?"

You find an oboe, piccolo, and three clarinet cases left in the remaining lockers.

Game over, town wins!

[Riceballtail]

Night Choices

N1:
Cop Gamma
Vig Budja
Doc KoC
Mkill Atlas
MRB Rest

N2:
Cop Magisterrain
Vig ToD
Doc Gamma
Mkill Gamma
MRB Gamma

N3:
Cop N/A
Vig No Kill
Doc Gamma
Mkill Wall-E
MRB (out)

[Riceballtail]

Role PMs:

Wall-E: You are a Bassoon Player (Doctor). Through the use of your instrument, you have learned how to overpower other instruments in the orchestra. Each night, you may give a private performance for a member of the town, protecting them from any sounds that may be heard from a roaming brass player. You win when the orchestra has become entirely woodwind instruments.

KnightofCydonia: You are an Oboe Player (Cop). Through the use of your Oboe, you can discern which members of the town truly enjoy all woodwind instruments, as no brass player in your town ever really liked having you around. Each night, you may give a private performance to another player in order to determine whether they are woodwind (town) or brass (mafia) players. You win when the orchestra has become entirely woodwind instruments. (Note: 100% sane)

Gamma: You are a Piccolo Player (Vigilante). Through the use of your piccolo, you are able to drive another member of the town out, so that they never want to participate in the orchestra again. Each night, you may visit another players house and give them a private performance, which will force them to leave the orchestra. You win when the orchestra has become entirely woodwind instruments.

zachattack, Budja, jerseygoomba, MyMilkedEek, RestFermata, magisterrain:
You are a Clarinet Player (Vanilla Townie). You're definitely angry, and those brass players have interfered with your orchestra rehearsals for the last time. Each day, you may place your vote on someone to remove them from the orchestra. You win when all brass players have been removed from the orchestra.

Netlava: You are a Trumpet Player (Mafia Goon). Through the use of your horn, and your ego, you have managed to agitate most of the orchestra. During the night, your team may discuss and choose one person to remove from the town by performing for them. During the day, you may use your vote to remove someone from the orchestra. You win when only brass players remain in the orchestra.

WhereIsTony: You are a Tuba Player (Mafia Goon). Through the use of your horn, you have the ability to overpower the woodwinds in the orchestra, and this has angered them greatly. During the night, your team may discuss and choose one person to remove from the town by performing for them. During the day, you may use your vote to remove someone from the orchestra. You win when only brass players remain in the orchestra.

Trumpet of Doom: You are a French Horn Player (Mafia Roleblocker). Through the use of your horn, you have learned how to distract other instruments with your off-beats, much to their dismay. Each night, you may target a player, and prevent them from using their instrument, because of your distractions. Also, during the night, your team may discuss and choose one person to remove from the town by performing for them. However, you may only use your horn in one way per night. During the day, you may use your vote to remove someone from the orchestra. You win when only brass players remain in the orchestra.

[Riceballtail]

Anyone who has any feedback for me would be appreciated. This is my first time leading a game online, and so constructive ideas would be great. I know the constant need for replacements really hurt the game, but it never really seemed like it was going to hurt the scum.

I'm open for questions as well, should anyone have any.

Thanks for playing!

[Budja]

Good job town.

I find it amusing that my two biggest suspects were instrumental to the victory.

You did a great job modding RBT. I liked the spoiler highlight over the roles/alignments for added suspense .

[WhereIsTony]

Good game all, It was over once jordan left.

The reason I changed the target to gamma was spite.

I wanted gamma blocked night 2 because i thought he would kill me.

ToD said he would play better solo and would not block him.

So I changed the kill to gamma.

ToD must have changed his mind, but never told me so the kill stayed the same.

[RestFermata]

I brought ketchup, Wall-E.

Good game, everybody!

[Wall-E]

*eats his hat*

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Yeeeehaww! Good game folks!