Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[PeregrineV]

Also wonder why we had to have Natural passed:


Natural: Each era, wonders from the previous era may be built. However, attempting to build an already built wonder will result in failure.

We confirm three of the wonders were built. Maybe scum passed up building daytalk, so wanted to go back and build the next night.

Why was natural pushed so hard, and who pushed it?

Titus pushed it, but with decent reads.

Also if youre gonna use your stump power to just agitate people by repeating the same line over and over.....just dont.

No, I will. You think 1300 posts is crazy for DEO/Mathblade, I can do more.

For what reason did we pass Natural, in the eyes of Math? Which wonder was "passed up" that we needed natural?

[MathBlade]

In post 8218, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8210, PeregrineV wrote:
Also wonder why we had to have Natural passed:


Natural: Each era, wonders from the previous era may be built. However, attempting to build an already built wonder will result in failure.

We confirm three of the wonders were built. Maybe scum passed up building daytalk, so wanted to go back and build the next night.

Why was natural pushed so hard, and who pushed it?


PV.....I am on record nearly 100 times (exaggeration)
Daytalk is the strongest town power.
If you are suggesting me scum then suggesting me scum without daytalk is dumb.
There is no way scum passed on daytalk. Per setup rules in the first post they shouldn't know what resolutions were coming up. They would have to shoot themselves in the foot.

In post 8219, MathBlade wrote:
Strongest town and scum*

In post 8225, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8221, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 8210, PeregrineV wrote:
Also wonder why we had to have Natural passed:


Natural: Each era, wonders from the previous era may be built. However, attempting to build an already built wonder will result in failure.

We confirm three of the wonders were built. Maybe scum passed up building daytalk, so wanted to go back and build the next night.

Why was natural pushed so hard, and who pushed it?

This is worth looking into.

Shit, how long ago was that?


Natural is townie as fuck.
Hell I even admit to pushing it.

100% townie to do so.

PV is scum pushing me.
This is shit.


Once again, Natural lets town get DOC, ZEUS, NEIGHBORING, and SCUM DAYTALK, as far as you KNEW.

Which did you think town might have "passed up on and needed another chance to get"?

And why did you lynch the ZEUS role when they are best nightkilled?

1) I was talking with Halicarnassus owner yesterday.
2) Scum day talk wouldn't be passed on by scum as per the rules of the first post they wouldn't know what resolutions would be coming up so that would be built.
3) We built Stonehenge
4) that means doc or Zeus or no wonder. ABR never willingly takes doc not his personality and ABR is rarely an NK. So ABR taking Zeus and then claiming to mess up mechanics a fourth time meant he was likely scum.

ABR's play was not ABR like.

I was wrong but after his claim no chance of being NK'd anyway. The claim looked like he was trying to avoid being lynched.

[Nero Cain]

like Titus LOVES hoods. I'd think a townTitus would get that.

[Alisae]

Gardens, Mausoleum, or the daytalk if Math were to be scum.

[Vecna]

Also wonder why we had to have Natural passed:


Natural: Each era, wonders from the previous era may be built. However, attempting to build an already built wonder will result in failure.

We confirm three of the wonders were built. Maybe scum passed up building daytalk, so wanted to go back and build the next night.

Why was natural pushed so hard, and who pushed it?

Titus pushed it, but with decent reads.

Also if youre gonna use your stump power to just agitate people by repeating the same line over and over.....just dont.

No, I will. You think 1300 posts is crazy for DEO/Mathblade, I can do more.

For what reason did we pass Natural, in the eyes of Math? Which wonder was "passed up" that we needed natural?

Nothing of value was passed up. We chose this together because it presented options for a lategame massclaim backup plan.

Also this inquisition is now over

[MathBlade]

like Titus LOVES hoods. I'd think a townTitus would get that.

TownTitus said I am the worst thing ever to happen in mafia and screamed at me to replace out for three hours at lunch because she couldn't have her way and then left me a small bit of time for my POV which she promptly ignored. Titus said my quality of play is so horrible that putting me in a hood was negative utility for Town.

[PeregrineV]

1) I am Town.
2) I don't lie in scum games. It is a badge of honor to try to win without lying.
3) PV ignores my questions and just repeats "Scum say what?" << PV is saying "what?" and is the scum.
4) It explains why game has gone off the rails because active people were manipulating it.
5) Matches my D1 VCA.

Yeah I think it is PV/Nero/Vecna/Yuri/LUV.

1. Then why do you do

SO MUCH STUFF THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR TOWN?

2. ---

3. Actually, I'm addressing them. You are ignoring mine, and blaming Titus.

4. Your game is not on the rails, and you seem steamed I am calling you on your bullshit.

5. It's just out there for future work, since I'll be here all game!!

[PeregrineV]

Anyone who thinks Math is scum why would they take stonehenge D1?

Same reason they would wifom the treestump, to have an excuse to not get nkd.

Thank you!!

[PeregrineV]

Nero is that really worth it though especially considering that LUV hinted at things that are better coming up in the future.
Like, I feel like the better play I would expect from scum!Titus would be to wait for something better and to steal that before any townies got a chance to build it.

Stonhenge is p powerful. Firstly its an investigation. And then there's the chance that players FOLLOW the reads of dead town. Also no scum in thier right mind would ever shoot a Titus or Math thing so I think its really odd that they'd take it.

Titus insisted we would be shot.

*facepalm*

Never hydraing with Titus again.

Did Titus want Natural too? So the wonder of ___________ could be built?

[MathBlade]

Pretty much since I didn't let Titus have her way she threw a hissy fit and then demanded we claim Stonehenge which I told her was bad which was met Witt more yelling saying I am impossible and then when I was right and Vecna wasn't Pyramids she took her ball and ran rather than sitting back and letting me play as promised.

It felt shitty and trying to put Town back together after that shit shown by stepping back I feel was smart.

[Nero Cain]

yea, I just have a really hard time believing that she is really frustrated with you. I think its more likely that this was a dog and pony show.

[PeregrineV]

Nero is that really worth it though especially considering that LUV hinted at things that are better coming up in the future.
Like, I feel like the better play I would expect from scum!Titus would be to wait for something better and to steal that before any townies got a chance to build it.

And I wouldn't waste a power slot on Stonehenge as scum.

The fact Titus claimed insisting Vecna was Pyramids has really fucked with things and I have been trying to rebuild from any semblance of usefulness their screaming.

The fact I am being attacked by scum for having reads now is rather telling I am on the right track.

Before when I was confused or pushing wrong >> Math obvTown
Now that who I am pushing is changed >> Math is scum.

Even when any theory of being scum is shit and multiple of you have said this.

Who did you target last night?

I crumbed that. Rather sloppily. Maybe need a napkin.

You can just say it. You are an outted PR. Why are you crumbing anything?

[Nero Cain]

I've never seen PV be this forceful before but then he only really makes sense as a scum kill so....

[Vecna]

Pv, ill just be blunt about it.

The timing on this intervention does not sit well with me. Your sudden style 180 makes it feel VERY much like youre trying to cause chaos amongst our ranks, or mess up the current wagon.

LUV suddenly jumping in and joining.....while also opposing the caesar wagon.....also mightily strange.

Hmmm ill need to have some thoughts on this.

[MathBlade]

1) I am Town.
2) I don't lie in scum games. It is a badge of honor to try to win without lying.
3) PV ignores my questions and just repeats "Scum say what?" << PV is saying "what?" and is the scum.
4) It explains why game has gone off the rails because active people were manipulating it.
5) Matches my D1 VCA.

Yeah I think it is PV/Nero/Vecna/Yuri/LUV.

1. Then why do you do

SO MUCH STUFF THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR TOWN?

2. ---

3. Actually, I'm addressing them. You are ignoring mine, and blaming Titus.

4. Your game is not on the rails, and you seem steamed I am calling you on your bullshit.

5. It's just out there for future work, since I'll be here all game!!

1) Doing good things for Town like id'ing scum yep.

3) You ignored my LUV/You discrepancy question to tunnel me.
4) I am angry but there is no bullshit.
5) Yes you are here the rest of the game. That is why you should have claimed. You didn't you're scum and now everyone else has to sort you. Not claiming Pyramids is a scum move.

[Nero Cain]

Also remember that Math was the one that was trying to narrow down who got the pyramids. And Math doesn't lie as scum so...Math and scum team successfully POE who has the pyramids and kills them?

[Vecna]

yea, I just have a really hard time believing that she is really frustrated with you. I think its more likely that this was a dog and pony show.

How do you interpret this spike from PV? And luv suddenly doing a 180?

[MathBlade]

Nero is that really worth it though especially considering that LUV hinted at things that are better coming up in the future.
Like, I feel like the better play I would expect from scum!Titus would be to wait for something better and to steal that before any townies got a chance to build it.

And I wouldn't waste a power slot on Stonehenge as scum.

The fact Titus claimed insisting Vecna was Pyramids has really fucked with things and I have been trying to rebuild from any semblance of usefulness their screaming.

The fact I am being attacked by scum for having reads now is rather telling I am on the right track.

Before when I was confused or pushing wrong >> Math obvTown
Now that who I am pushing is changed >> Math is scum.

Even when any theory of being scum is shit and multiple of you have said this.

Who did you target last night?

I crumbed that. Rather sloppily. Maybe need a napkin.

You can just say it. You are an outted PR. Why are you crumbing anything?

Because I was talking with Halicarnassus outing who I targetted would be bad. Let's just say Halicarnassus knows.

[PeregrineV]

I mean TBF Titus does have an over inflated sense of self worth but wouldn't she realize that she rarely ever gets NKed? I dunno...the hood thing seems more Titusy to me.

Let's talk about the hood.

And this is what I have been asking the entire time: what happens if we don't get the thing which matches or skillset? Twiddle thumbs?

And guess what I got instead of an answer? Posturing that it doesn't matter if a player doesn't get what matches their skillset. My skillset is Mausoleum, are you saying that three other people who want it have the same sort of skillset? Not everyone is cut for neighborizer.

I would love for you to post your mafia resume that statiscally proves you are better in a given role.

And if you can't scumhunt unless you can neighborize, you should say so now, since it will make day1 much easier.

Why are Akane and Nebby voting Natural?
Natural (10): Maxous, The DEO, Akane and Nebby, Spiffeh, Drixx, Albert B. Rampage, Vecna, Creature, Leonshade, NoticeMeSenpai

They should have got the neighborhood. And they should have announced any findings from that hood.

And they should have no reason to want to build day1 wonders, since pretty sure titus already claimed.

[MathBlade]

Also remember that Math was the one that was trying to narrow down who got the pyramids. And Math doesn't lie as scum so...Math and scum team successfully POE who has the pyramids and kills them?

Go fuck off. As scum I have more information and can comfortably PR hunt.
In Hogwarts Mafia when I was fake confirmed town by Alisae it let me PR hunt.
Furthermore I was called crazy for suspecting one of NM/Cloud lying on replace in.
I just got fucked with by scumplay that game.

[Nero Cain]

yea, I just have a really hard time believing that she is really frustrated with you. I think its more likely that this was a dog and pony show.

How do you interpret this spike from PV? And luv suddenly doing a 180?

I would think PV is scum but then what happened to the scum NK? It was doc protected? ok So PV is a vig kill? What fucking vig would vig PV over Math?

[Alisae]

PV I've been solohydraing since the game actually started and I just recently split it.
As soon as D2 started they never talked to me again.
Why should I have announced it if I did get it?

[MathBlade]

I mean TBF Titus does have an over inflated sense of self worth but wouldn't she realize that she rarely ever gets NKed? I dunno...the hood thing seems more Titusy to me.

Let's talk about the hood.

And this is what I have been asking the entire time: what happens if we don't get the thing which matches or skillset? Twiddle thumbs?

And guess what I got instead of an answer? Posturing that it doesn't matter if a player doesn't get what matches their skillset. My skillset is Mausoleum, are you saying that three other people who want it have the same sort of skillset? Not everyone is cut for neighborizer.

I would love for you to post your mafia resume that statiscally proves you are better in a given role.

And if you can't scumhunt unless you can neighborize, you should say so now, since it will make day1 much easier.

Why are Akane and Nebby voting Natural?
Natural (10): Maxous, The DEO, Akane and Nebby, Spiffeh, Drixx, Albert B. Rampage, Vecna, Creature, Leonshade, NoticeMeSenpai

They should have got the neighborhood. And they should have announced any findings from that hood.

And they should have no reason to want to build day1 wonders, since pretty sure titus already claimed.

That post is riddled with errors.
1) Titus and I didn't claim Stonehenge til D2. Post 500s is D1.
2) Drixx's skill set was Pyramids look who has it? Skill set is not hood indicative. They might or might not have Halicarnassus I won't say who does.
Hence my crumbs because who I targeted is in direct relation to that.

[Nero Cain]

Also remember that Math was the one that was trying to narrow down who got the pyramids. And Math doesn't lie as scum so...Math and scum team successfully POE who has the pyramids and kills them?

Go fuck off. As scum I have more information and can comfortably PR hunt.
In Hogwarts Mafia when I was fake confirmed town by Alisae it let me PR hunt.
Furthermore I was called crazy for suspecting one of NM/Cloud lying on replace in.
I just got fucked with by scumplay that game.

ok....this just seems like saying things and not really responding to what I said.

[PeregrineV]

In post 8218, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8210, PeregrineV wrote:
Also wonder why we had to have Natural passed:


Natural: Each era, wonders from the previous era may be built. However, attempting to build an already built wonder will result in failure.

We confirm three of the wonders were built. Maybe scum passed up building daytalk, so wanted to go back and build the next night.

Why was natural pushed so hard, and who pushed it?


PV.....I am on record nearly 100 times (exaggeration)
Daytalk is the strongest town power.
If you are suggesting me scum then suggesting me scum without daytalk is dumb.
There is no way scum passed on daytalk. Per setup rules in the first post they shouldn't know what resolutions were coming up. They would have to shoot themselves in the foot.

In post 8219, MathBlade wrote:
Strongest town and scum*

In post 8225, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8221, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 8210, PeregrineV wrote:
Also wonder why we had to have Natural passed:


Natural: Each era, wonders from the previous era may be built. However, attempting to build an already built wonder will result in failure.

We confirm three of the wonders were built. Maybe scum passed up building daytalk, so wanted to go back and build the next night.

Why was natural pushed so hard, and who pushed it?

This is worth looking into.

Shit, how long ago was that?


Natural is townie as fuck.
Hell I even admit to pushing it.

100% townie to do so.

PV is scum pushing me.
This is shit.


Once again, Natural lets town get DOC, ZEUS, NEIGHBORING, and SCUM DAYTALK, as far as you KNEW.

Which did you think town might have "passed up on and needed another chance to get"?

And why did you lynch the ZEUS role when they are best nightkilled?

1) I was talking with Halicarnassus owner yesterday.
2) Scum day talk wouldn't be passed on by scum as per the rules of the first post they wouldn't know what resolutions would be coming up so that would be built.
3) We built Stonehenge
4) that means doc or Zeus or no wonder. ABR never willingly takes doc not his personality and ABR is rarely an NK. So ABR taking Zeus and then claiming to mess up mechanics a fourth time meant he was likely scum.

ABR's play was not ABR like.

I was wrong but after his claim no chance of being NK'd anyway. The claim looked like he was trying to avoid being lynched.

1. So you voted to build day1 wonders knowing that they were mostly gone? WHY?
2. Why not? Assume there is 5 of you, you got stonhenge, and a buddy got daytalk. Or maybe you guys forgot to submit? Why give the opportunity if it may have been missed?
3. Vecna didnt get it, you did instead.
4. By THAT EXACT SAME LOGIC, YOU ARE LIKELY SCUM.

His role trumped your opinion of his play.

After your claim, no chance of you being NKed. You definitely look like you are avoiding the lynch.