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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:07 am
by Taly
In post 8472, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 8469, Bell wrote:
In post 8466, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 8445, Bell wrote:I doubt BBT even managed to find the mason claim at all.

You can add Taly to that list Luke.
what makes you say Taly forgot the masons?

~GE
Neighborhood, they didn't understand why I was town reading Roden and asked me about it.
they lamented they forget the important stuff sometimes.
ah

~GE
Momentary lapse in memory I knew they were masons but my brain didn't connect name to role when I asked in the PT

I've been very Foggy the last 48 hr. Dissociating.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:09 am
by Off The Hook
In post 8454, Bell wrote:
In post 8453, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 8441, Bell wrote:GE is scum reading me and has been for awhile I think.
Marci probably disagrees.
nah idk abt u

ur prwmetty pretty useless this game tho so that kinda sorta made me WANT to agree with gamma
Excuse me? I'm useless every game. Take that back.
idk about thaaat
haven't you said this before?

~GE

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:10 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 8473, Off The Hook wrote:btw Bell might be a slot we're actually synced on

~GE
I don’t understand your Bell read at all and yes, I did click your link to Among Us and I don’t see any similarity with this game.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:10 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 8474, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Killing Dunn over the likes of Luke/Pooky makes very little sense.

When you add in two claimed Masons as well it's like WTF?
why would scum kill me if i'm going to hardpush frogster for them today

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:10 am
by Off The Hook
In post 8475, Taly wrote:
In post 8472, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 8469, Bell wrote:
In post 8466, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 8445, Bell wrote:I doubt BBT even managed to find the mason claim at all.

You can add Taly to that list Luke.
what makes you say Taly forgot the masons?

~GE
Neighborhood, they didn't understand why I was town reading Roden and asked me about it.
they lamented they forget the important stuff sometimes.
ah

~GE
Momentary lapse in memory I knew they were masons but my brain didn't connect name to role when I asked in the PT

I've been very Foggy the last 48 hr. Dissociating.
that's an absolute mood
p sure a lot of my blanks in games are due to dissociating
for instance I had what might have been tangible reasons to TR Math D1 but they are lost to me rn, I'm just kinda assuming they might have been valid

~GE

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:11 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
@Pooky Because you were widely town read?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:12 am
by Off The Hook
In post 8477, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 8473, Off The Hook wrote:btw Bell might be a slot we're actually synced on

~GE
I don’t understand your Bell read at all and yes, I did click your link to Among Us and I don’t see any similarity with this game.
Among Us was only relevant to the no-lim discussion
I would potentially compare him to Shakespeare UPick instead. You weren't in it, but Titus was.

~GE

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:12 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i'm also loud and wrong.

the goal of scum is to survive

the easiest way to survive is to let the loud wrong townie hardpush the mislim for them

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:12 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 8474, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Killing Dunn over the likes of Luke/Pooky makes very little sense.

When you add in two claimed Masons as well it's like WTF?
If Dunn is FN like he claimed, then he is literally the only slot who can be confirmed without flips, so actually makes perfect sense.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:13 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Dunn has no reason to lie about himself being able to confirm himself as town.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:13 am
by Lukewarm
In post 8460, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Not caught up but was thinking about the games gamestate last night

Did scum kill frogger, Dunn, or none of the above?

Ignoring that last option just based on probability.

If scum killed Frogger, they were really worried about the cop thing? Because he was a wild card and didn'tagree to a leash? I can't imagine that was too frightening a prospect considering several of us were talking about wanting them dead. So, based on that thought, I'm looking for scum that are either paranoid or inexperienced.

OR

If scum killed Dunn, his mystery power was frightening? Or he was onto someone. Again, both of these would have to outweigh the fact that he was suspected yesterday and that suspicion very well could have continued into today. So based on that, looking for someone paranoid, inexperienced, or suspected by Dunn

These two profiles are similar enough that I think I can narrow it down. I'm also less interested in the top wagons from yesterday, because if scum were featured heavily there I don't think they'd be brave enough to make that pool smaller
The only reason why I can imagine scum choosing to kill Frog is because they had already fake claimed a role before he claimed Rolecop, and was actually scared of the Rolecop. Outside of that, I think that he was not the scum kill.

As for Dunn, I think that the thread consensus was that he was softing Friendly Neighbor (I am unsure how that lines up with his soft at me, but I also failed at breaking that in general, so :shurg:)

If they also thought that was his claim, then they might have felt the need to shoot one of : Dunn, Roden, or Dwlee because the list of confirmed town was getting kinda high. Given those three options, I think that it makes sense to kill Dunn because he was the only one of the three that fully keeping up with the game, and the best suited to become a leader because of it.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:14 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
In post 8300, Dancing Puppets wrote:I'm like 80% sure Math is town and BBT is scum. Dunn was shot N1. He was the first voter on BBT. Math has a habit of rubbing people the wrong way. He's easy to provoke. The other voter on BBT is a mason.

Flipping BBT also completely reveals the gamestate D1.

Will read up later.

~Titus
So I ISO'd Dunn real quick and I remembered someone trying to tie the Dunn kill to me. His most recent posting had absolutely nothing to do with me so why are you linking him being the first voter on me as if that's a legit reason to scum read me?

Wasn't that literally like 8,000 posts ago? Did Dunn have nothing more relevant that he might be killed for?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:14 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 8481, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 8477, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 8473, Off The Hook wrote:btw Bell might be a slot we're actually synced on

~GE
I don’t understand your Bell read at all and yes, I did click your link to Among Us and I don’t see any similarity with this game.
Among Us was only relevant to the no-lim discussion
I would potentially compare him to Shakespeare UPick instead. You weren't in it, but Titus was.

~GE
Link?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:15 am
by Off The Hook
In post 8460, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Not caught up but was thinking about the games gamestate last night

Did scum kill frogger, Dunn, or none of the above?

Ignoring that last option just based on probability.

If scum killed Frogger, they were really worried about the cop thing? Because he was a wild card and didn'tagree to a leash? I can't imagine that was too frightening a prospect considering several of us were talking about wanting them dead. So, based on that thought, I'm looking for scum that are either paranoid or inexperienced.

OR

If scum killed Dunn, his mystery power was frightening? Or he was onto someone. Again, both of these would have to outweigh the fact that he was suspected yesterday and that suspicion very well could have continued into today. So based on that, looking for someone paranoid, inexperienced, or suspected by Dunn

These two profiles are similar enough that I think I can narrow it down. I'm also less interested in the top wagons from yesterday, because if scum were featured heavily there I don't think they'd be brave enough to make that pool smaller
scum couldn't have known frog would get vigged; maybe they shot dunn because they thought frog would check him?

~GE

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:15 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 8485, Lukewarm wrote:As for Dunn, I think that the thread consensus was that he was softing Friendly Neighbor (I am unsure how that lines up with his soft at me, but I also failed at breaking that in general, so :shurg:)

If they also thought that was his claim, then they might have felt the need to shoot one of : Dunn, Roden, or Dwlee because the list of confirmed town was getting kinda high. Given those three options, I think that it makes sense to kill Dunn because he was the only one of the three that fully keeping up with the game, and the best suited to become a leader because of it.
mb we should look at what dunn's reads were before he got nightkilled but i'm too lazy for that shit

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:15 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
In post 8483, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 8474, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Killing Dunn over the likes of Luke/Pooky makes very little sense.

When you add in two claimed Masons as well it's like WTF?
If Dunn is FN like he claimed, then he is literally the only slot who can be confirmed without flips, so actually makes perfect sense.
So why did you try to tie the kill to me?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:16 am
by Bell
In post 8476, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 8454, Bell wrote:
In post 8453, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 8441, Bell wrote:GE is scum reading me and has been for awhile I think.
Marci probably disagrees.
nah idk abt u

ur prwmetty pretty useless this game tho so that kinda sorta made me WANT to agree with gamma
Excuse me? I'm useless every game. Take that back.
idk about thaaat
haven't you said this before?

~GE
I have made this joke before yes. Except there's a lot of truth to that joke if you think about my play as much as I have.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:16 am
by Off The Hook
In post 8487, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 8481, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 8477, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 8473, Off The Hook wrote:btw Bell might be a slot we're actually synced on

~GE
I don’t understand your Bell read at all and yes, I did click your link to Among Us and I don’t see any similarity with this game.
Among Us was only relevant to the no-lim discussion
I would potentially compare him to Shakespeare UPick instead. You weren't in it, but Titus was.

~GE
Link?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=87967
he was a hydra with GuyInFreezer
idk exactly what posting was him and what was GiF but I do feel like that was one of his stronger scumgames

~GE

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:16 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 8484, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Dunn has no reason to lie about himself being able to confirm himself as town.
+1

Exactly, so scum obviously knew he was the only confirmable slot.

VOTE: Enchant

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:18 am
by JohnnyFarrar
In post 8488, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 8460, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Not caught up but was thinking about the games gamestate last night

Did scum kill frogger, Dunn, or none of the above?

Ignoring that last option just based on probability.

If scum killed Frogger, they were really worried about the cop thing? Because he was a wild card and didn'tagree to a leash? I can't imagine that was too frightening a prospect considering several of us were talking about wanting them dead. So, based on that thought, I'm looking for scum that are either paranoid or inexperienced.

OR

If scum killed Dunn, his mystery power was frightening? Or he was onto someone. Again, both of these would have to outweigh the fact that he was suspected yesterday and that suspicion very well could have continued into today. So based on that, looking for someone paranoid, inexperienced, or suspected by Dunn

These two profiles are similar enough that I think I can narrow it down. I'm also less interested in the top wagons from yesterday, because if scum were featured heavily there I don't think they'd be brave enough to make that pool smaller
scum couldn't have known frog would get vigged; maybe they shot dunn because they thought frog would check him?

~GE
Right right hadn't considered this for a second option. Mostly because when I suggested it Frogger said he just wasn't reading my posts :roll:

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:18 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 8490, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 8483, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 8474, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Killing Dunn over the likes of Luke/Pooky makes very little sense.

When you add in two claimed Masons as well it's like WTF?
If Dunn is FN like he claimed, then he is literally the only slot who can be confirmed without flips, so actually makes perfect sense.
So why did you try to tie the kill to me?
First off that was Titus and second, I just literally realized that now.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:19 am
by Lukewarm
In post 8489, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 8485, Lukewarm wrote:As for Dunn, I think that the thread consensus was that he was softing Friendly Neighbor (I am unsure how that lines up with his soft at me, but I also failed at breaking that in general, so :shurg:)

If they also thought that was his claim, then they might have felt the need to shoot one of : Dunn, Roden, or Dwlee because the list of confirmed town was getting kinda high. Given those three options, I think that it makes sense to kill Dunn because he was the only one of the three that fully keeping up with the game, and the best suited to become a leader because of it.
mb we should look at what dunn's reads were before he got nightkilled but i'm too lazy for that shit
Don't you literally have a spreadsheet with everyone's reads day 1. Just sitting there?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:19 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
In post 6894, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 6891, Off The Hook wrote:Also: idk if there’s been anything major since our last couple games but I also was scum in our last 2 (Slaughter Hour and uPick) and BOTH demanded I play my fucking head off at the start to not die.
This sort of looks like you are claiming mafia. Both because you are wondering why you are not getting pushed this game and because you say you were "also" scum in the other games.
His most recent read.

He also disliked Taly but maybe he was just explaining his choice in the gladiate?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:21 am
by Off The Hook
In post 8464, Bell wrote:
In post 8456, Off The Hook wrote:i can just FEEL the useless vibes radiating off of u

it feels more so than in that one game where u were confirmed town for whatever reason. i think i remember u actually sat down and TRIED at one point..
*stares at 549 posts*
Yeah sure okay. This makes sense. You make sense. I haven't been trying and I haven't taken a single position or been arguing with people all game.
You don't have to acknowledge if you don't want. I'm fine.
This is fine. :cry:
You know you can post a fair bit as scum, why this post?

~GE

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:22 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 8489, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 8485, Lukewarm wrote:As for Dunn, I think that the thread consensus was that he was softing Friendly Neighbor (I am unsure how that lines up with his soft at me, but I also failed at breaking that in general, so :shurg:)

If they also thought that was his claim, then they might have felt the need to shoot one of : Dunn, Roden, or Dwlee because the list of confirmed town was getting kinda high. Given those three options, I think that it makes sense to kill Dunn because he was the only one of the three that fully keeping up with the game, and the best suited to become a leader because of it.
mb we should look at what dunn's reads were before he got nightkilled but i'm too lazy for that shit
Taly, Malakittens, Bellaphant