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Zee wrote:Korlash: Don't you feel stupid, backing up scum for the second time in a row?

When was the first time I backed up scum? And no, after Gorrad claimed I outed him as scum so I don't feel dumb in the slightest.

Zee wrote:Korlash: Did you target me during the night?

Yes...

Glad wrote:Albert B. Rampage and Green Crayons still need to claim. Korlash needs to claim targets, and Xtoxm needs to claim his target from last night.

I already claimed targets.

Zee wrote:No fair! Players are not supposed seem this pro-town! Unvote .

Just because you can't manage it doesn't mean others aren't allowed.

Oh right:

@: Jebus, not really anything to say actually. Nothing in that post seemed to be an atack or even directed at me... so yeah...

@ Glad: How many people were pressing you to claim when you did? And did you do that day 2 or day 3?

Oh hey by the way Apparently my attachment to you was unsucessful there Zee... I should read my inbox before posting I think. Either you're untargetable or I was blocked in some form or fashion.

More @ Glad: Seems you claimed day 3, still would like to know how "Pressured" you felt when you claimed though. It does seem out of the blue.

As far as who the scum are I pretty much think it's boiled down to a pool of like 5. Which boils down to like three to me. Glad's claim is starting to look a little bit bad for her the more I look at it. (and the comment about not thinking Phily got a guitly on Gorrad doesn't help) And both Jebus and Zee have jumped out as possible blockers against me but I'm not putting too much scope in that. The other two from town's perspective are probably me and ABR simply becuase he hasn't claimed yet and out of Xtoxm and me I think I'm the more likely looking scum.

As Glad said anyone voting her should explain night 1 and I will once she answers my question.

DOS wrote:Albert B. Rampage and Green Crayons still need to claim.

Meh. I'm not dead-set on any course of action like I was yesterday, so it's not like it'll be a distraction to any grandiose plan of mine. My passive ability is Hunted, and the effect is that because I'm being so closely stalked by hollows, their foul reiatsu is overshadowing my own [paraphrased].

That's all it says, but I understood it immediately to mean that I was a miller in some shape or fashion.

GC's Thoughts wrote:ZEEnon
GLaDOS
Korlash
Xtoxm
Albert B. Rampage
Jebus

That's my current list, going Town ---> Scum. Jebus is at the bottom because he has flown completely beneath the radar the entire game. Like, I can't remember a single productive contribution to the game that has come from him off the top of my head.

Korlash wrote:...Zee have jumped out as possible blockers...

While I wouldn't put it past the mod to not add in a protective role simply to mess with the game's meta, that would mean he put us against scum + SK with no protection (which stinks). I'm betting we have a protection role. ZEE hasn't be countered in his claim. He's the most confirmed player, in my opinion.

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Korlash, I was under no pressure when I claimed on Day Three. I claimed because I thought ZEEnon had a fair chance of breaking the set-up, in that perhaps the scum were Numb Chandelier, Jibikurai, and Bulbous G and that hence the town likely had Orihime (who defeated N.C.), Don Kanonji or Ichigo Kurosaki (who accidentally created / defeated Jibi), and Sado (who defeated Bulbous G), with the theme of awakening spirit powers (which made sense with Xtoxm / Korlash). Additionally, I was working under the theory that I was the Night One kill, which if correct was something I felt the town needed to know at some point.

Korlash wrote: and the comment about not thinking Phily got a guitly on Gorrad doesn't help

I do not think PhilyEc had a guilty result on Gorrad. The fact that Gorrad turned out to be scum does not mean that PhilyEc magically also investigated him. If you believe PhilyEc had a guilty on Gorrad, then I would like to see your argument.

I am certain these players are town: Green, Xtoxm and ZEEnon. Korlash is town too if ZEEnon can confirm that he was enabled last night.

Green as well as me were on all three scum lynches. Xtoxm enabled me last night, making me a mason with ZEEnon. These players are all town.

And this leaves Glados and Jebus. The night 1 no-kill could have resulted by an unknown mechanic; speculating on night actions and the setup is not a real defense.

Korlash wrote:Oh hey by the way Apparently my attachment to you was unsucessful there Zee... I should read my inbox before posting I think. Either you're untargetable or I was blocked in some form or fashion.

Glados, do you have to specify whether or not you use your immunity that night? Or does it block the first NK attempt?

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Albert B. Rampage, I do not even send a PM to the mod at night. My ability is passive, and I survive the first nightkill on me regardless of what night it occurs.

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Green Crayons wrote:My passive ability is Hunted, and the effect is that because I'm being so closely stalked by hollows, their foul reiatsu is overshadowing my own [paraphrased].

Green Crayons, just to be clear: are you claiming that being a miller (as you suspect) is a passive ? And you are also claiming that your passive ability is not set forth for you in a straightforward manner (i.e. you are not told exactly what your ability does)? I am just trying to be clear on this because my passive ability is very straightforward, and not really subject to interpretation.

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I would still like a full claim from Albert B. Rampage.

Korlash wrote:Apparently my attachment to you was unsucessful there Zee...

Gorrad wrote:Xtoxm, ZEEnon, GLaDOS...they're all scummy.

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As self-interested as this statement is, trying to make inferences from the posts of a player who was going to be lynched is extremely questionable in itself. If you read through Gorrad's posts as Day Three came to a close, he was pretty much trying to get the wagon off of him by whatever means he could.

As the wagon began to form, he switches from you (ZEEnon) to Xtoxm on a theory he cannot explain; after receiving another vote he attacks you; and then after claiming he attacks me with reasoning he cannot explain. Trying to differentiate between distancing and deflecting in a death rattle is an art even I usually don't bother with.

Glados, do you know if your NK was unlocked or not?

IOW are you notified if you survive a NK?

This means targetting either of you and Zee would have no further effect, I assume..?

That would leave Dos as the only one with a claim of latent ability.

I should target her tonight?

And K, you did nothing against Gorrad, you didn't even vote him.

My bad Korlash, I missed something in the mason QT.

Xtoxm wrote:And K, you did nothing against Gorrad, you didn't even vote him.

No, becuase everytime I go to work you guys lynch them. And I did do something, I called his claim fake based on his flavor. Although you're the one who outed his ability and target as fake though so I'm thinking you kinda sealed the deal there.

Glad wrote:I still do not think PhilyEc had a guilty result on Gorrad. The fact that Gorrad turned out to be scum does not mean that PhilyEc magically also investigated him. If you believe PhilyEc had a guilty on Gorrad, then I would like to see your argument.

Seeing as how Gorrad was the Godfather i don't think he had a guilty... Which is why this statement of yours stuck out to me. It doesn't really prove anything really, but human nature is making me wonder if you actually knew gorrad was the GF and thus was investigation immune.

GC wrote:While I wouldn't put it past the mod to not add in a protective role simply to mess with the game's meta, that would mean he put us against scum + SK with no protection (which stinks). I'm betting we have a protection role. ZEE hasn't be countered in his claim. He's the most confirmed player, in my opinion.

That's actually a good point. Especially with two empowered scum and a GF. It is possible of having no protection if like one of the latent ability people is a protective role but... Yeah I tink we should have a protection role in this set-up. I guess I can write zee off then.

Glad wrote:Green Crayons, just to be clear: are you claiming that being a miller (as you suspect) is a passive ability? And you are also claiming that your passive ability is not set forth for you in a straightforward manner (i.e. you are not told exactly what your ability does)? I am just trying to be clear on this because my passive ability is very straightforward, and not really subject to interpretation.

For the record my passive ability is "cursed" which kinda fits with Greens. And mine was fairly clear cut. Once again I reiterate I have no bleach themed flavor in my ability... Do you? I mean I suppose it's possible but if he is a miller why doesn't it just say "any investigations against you will come up as guilty" or something. That would kinda match how mine is phrased.

ABR wrote:My bad Korlash, I missed something in the mason QT.

...ok... I've stopped questioning you a long time ago...

So can anyone else confirm or deny bleach lingo in their abilities? I've kinda been asking this for a while and a simple yes or no will suffice...

For the record, this would be the bleach lingo in the flavor:

GC wrote:My passive ability is Hunted, and the effect is that because I'm being so closely

stalked by hollows

, their

foul reiatsu is overshadowing my own

[paraphrased].

Both Gorrad and Sera had messed up flavor, amoung other things. So I still think it's a good line of attack and a good thing to watch out for.

As for my passive ability, I still believe it's best I don't talk about it.

Also apparently I missed two pages of late game yesterday... wow... I didn't even know you guys wanted me to target Zee... Usually I get unlucky with night targets... Whew... good job Korlash... But it would probably be best to go process that stuff as it has claims in it... *sigh*...

My flavor mentions spirit energy, not reiatsu, but this is a moot point. We need to lynch Glados or Jebus.

I'm cool with that providing you can answer me one more question. Was the mention of Spirit energy in your ability or was it in your general character flavor?

I'm not answering that.

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I see no reason for people to be hiding things at this stage of the game. In all probability, we only need one more correct lynch to win. I see no benefit in withholding information if it could in any way be helpful. It is not as if people are going to be using this information to make a fake-claim.

Albert B. Rampage wrote:IOW are you notified if you survive a NK?

No.

Korlash wrote:Once again I reiterate I have no bleach themed flavor in my ability... Do you?

Since we can apparently claim the names for passive abilities (I am inferring this from both Green Crayons’ and Korlash’s claims), mine is “Remarkable Endurance.” So to answer your question: Not really. I have nothing about reiatsu, hollows, kido(u), ‘spirit threads’, or the like.

So Glados, Jebus lynch, aye?

Fine then i can't ignore that both scum had messed up flavor and now so does Green.

I was going to vote him although taking another look at my PM "latent spiritual powers" are technically bleach flavor... so... that could explain it, I'm not giving up on it yet though.

GC, Comments on the fact that ABR, Xtoxm, and Myself were all given "spirit power" yet you came at us with reiatsu?

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You might have noticed that I do not like to rush things. I am still waiting for Jebus to answer my question to him, as well as for fuller claims from both you and Korlash. I will decide who I want to vote from there.

You'll be waiting until next Christmas Glados.

Glad wrote:Since we can apparently claim the names for passive abilities (I am inferring this from both Green Crayons’ and Korlash’s claims), mine is “Remarkable Endurance.” So to answer your question: Not really. I have nothing about reiatsu, hollows, kido(u), ‘spirit threads’, or the like.

What I'm getting at is there are two different ways your ability can be worded.

Mafia lingo: The first nightkill attempt on you will fail.

Bleaach lingo: Your impressive size and strength combined with your armor will allow you to survive the first night kill attempt made on you.

There is a vast difference when you really thing about it and seeing as how me and GC as so closely rlated characterwise I can't understand why this difference would exist between the two of us.

Glad wrote:I see no reason for people to be hiding things at this stage of the game. In all probability, we only need one more correct lynch to win. I see no benefit in withholding information if it could in any way be helpful. It is not as if people are going to be using this information to make a fake-claim.

The information I am withholding I do not find helpful to the town at all. It has yet to come into effect so there is no way to confimr or deny it. There's no unexplained instances that it would answer. And WCS it may be twisted back around on me in an effort to lynch me which I'm not worried about but I just don't see the point in giving info that will only serve to inform scum and increase the odds of a town mislynch.

If there is an actual reason I should claim it aside from just general information sharing I'll do it. But if that's all... it's not worth it. I'd rather keep it hidden to hopefully help make use of it later.