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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:13 am

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I don't think I caught any of the scum at any time, probably because the anti-town malarkey from multiple players made my head spin. That always happens to me in games I die N1 anyway, so that's fine.

I cannot believe that the lot of you succumbed to confirmation bias by playing Follow the Fate after SBUX's lynch. Good, at least this extrovert is Town, but those who voluntarily put themselves under the rule of a tyrant deserve whatever fate they receive.

Easiest way to tell Leafs is emotionally compromised whilst voting me: he can't pay attention to the fact he had to unvote first. I still get a rise out of that. Anyway... :lol:

I guess that would make me a horrible vig, but I think Jacob's kills were reasonable choices. Good for him for remembering to duck N5 even if Town could've had the lynch and the vigkill, too.

CMAR, you should've at least stuck with the fake investigate even if he was on V/LA. That may very well have cost us the game. And then, yeah, the twilight was just really, really strange ensuing that. Writing cases up overNight doesn't mean that you know who's in play, it just lists everyone, and then you omit whoever dies. That's not a slip by any means, (clearly now).

Twomz, well done completely driving Town the wrong way (NL was a mistake, and I'm sure you knew that). I personally would've gone with GF speculation, but both routes work, esp. considering you were claiming CMAR was full of crap before. I take back what I said post-mortem.
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:02 am

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I swear to god town better not have lost.
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:04 am

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Holy FUCK.

My force-replacement lost the game for town IN SO MANY WAYS.

1. Cmar couldn't explain my Pittbunny lynch
2. Cmar didn't get a SINGLE USEFUL FUCKIN INVESTIGATION ALL GAME. MY N1 WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS USEFUL
3. Cmar thought Andrius was scum when he was OBVTOWN DAY FUCKIN 1

The list goes on.... Holy fuck.

Good thing this goes down as a win in my wiki
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:06 am

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You... kind of are a loser (actually, you're neither) when you break mod rules. Technically you made your worst play ever by getting yourself forced out.

If you deemed yourself an almighty deity, then got yourself bumped out, you only have yourself to blame for making Town lose.
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:09 am

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I didn't break any obvious rules, nor did I obviously impersonate the moderator.

So I don't take it as my fault. In reality it isn't like I had tainted my slot so badly that it could haven't been played well, its just CMAR failed EPICLY as a cop.

I mean he breadcrumbed his ass off to where any reasonably intelligent scum could see HEY HE GOT AN INNOCENT ON KUNKSTAR!! He choose his investigations targets horribly. I mean, CHRONOPIE? Everyone and their mother already KNEW Chrono was scum, if somehow he came up innocent he woulda been a Godfather.
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:09 am

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More thoughts after I read the Dead and Scum QT, explaining how I would've played differently (and won the game for town).
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:23 am

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K, HERE WAS MY THINKING THIS GAME:

1. N1, Chrono is obvscum, Pitt should be the counterwagon D2, one of Lowell, RBT, Kunkstar, Twomz should be investigated.
2. D2 Throw up a HUGE TOWN LIST that would contain my Kunkstar innocent, AND the people I wanted to investigate so they wouldn't die (WONDER WHY YOU WERE ON THE LIST NOW TWOMZ? I WAS ON TO UR ASS)
3. Let obvscum Chrono get run up, THEN build the Pittbunny wagon and see reactions to see if they are scum together or if scum jump allover Pitt for a mislynch (Pitt wasn't supposed to be hammered, but I'm not sorry. Plus this outted Ani as scum for sure so it wasn't a bad mislynch)
4. N2 Investigate one of the non-obvig targets: Twomz, Lowell, RBT
5. RINSE REPEAT TILL TWOMZ IS DEAD.

What CMAR did wrong:
1. Investigated CHRONO because "he was the lynch of the next day" WHAT? Read my last post you don't investigate obvscum. Even if HE WAS town and not Godfather, were you gonna out yourself just to save him? Lol...
2. Investigated FakeGod, obv vig bait
3. Tried to direct PRs so he could investigate RBT... ???
4. CLAIMED with no pressure for no reason due to outguessing mod speculation.
5. DID NOT CLAIM N1 result BUT made a town list.. with HIMSELF (lol?) KUNKSTAR, and ONE OTHER. His reasoning for Kunkstar was (I TRUST WUT FATE SAID ABOUT KUNK) jesus can you make a flashing sign any bigger?
6. Investigated ANDRIUS because of his whole paranoia bullshit about having a case made up over night and IGNORING d1 where Andrius was wagonned by TWO OR THREE scum for wanting to lynch the MILLER who was SCUM

I still blame SC.

Toogeloo you didn't help matters by planting the seed HEY GUIZ FATE CULDA BEEN SUPER SCUM! By speculating Godfather?? But then CMAR claimed cop and it shoulda been obvious he wouldn't claim cop if he WAS a godfather which would be one of the few things that made sense for bussing a RB D1...
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:35 am

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It took every ounce of willpower not to gloat before the reveal :D.

I wanted a no lynch so that JS could off CMAR for me while I took out JS, lynching CMAR would have been a bad plan for town anyway (if JS was SK) so I took the no lynch stance for that reason as well.

Day 1 I forgot who my scum partners were, so the SB lynch was actually partly an accident for me >.<

After that I just kinda tried to scumhunt or w/e. Pretending to be a perfect little townie payed off in the end :D.

A note for those who will play with me again. The scummier I act, the more likely I am to be town. The less scummy I act, the more likely I am to be scum.

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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:40 am

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The fact that I planted a seed of Godfather should have been thrown out if people doubted he was the cop in the first place. Way too much WIFOM to hold water in that argument. Town had a great plan Day 4, and they screwed up the follow through and didn't work together. The dead scum even thought this game should have been over a couple days ago, but paranoia got the best of the two most vocal players remaining instead of thinking on Occam's Razor. Pretty much every argument made to defend these two as obvtown earlier in the game was thrown out the window.
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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:56 am

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You played a great game all other things equal though Toogeloo, and I daresay your were half as much responsible for SB's lynch as I was, because you stopped the SV lynch and made me look at other people.

As for Twomz, I was well aware of your playstyle and you being all reasonable D2 made me want to investigate you that night.

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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:17 am

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Oh and Twomz deserved that win for Schizophrenia lone QT talking >__>

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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:20 am

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Fate wrote:I didn't break any obvious rules, nor did I obviously impersonate the moderator.
You posted a fake role reveal and I had to delete a fake death scene after I had thrown you out. I'm sorry you disagree with me that that's impersonating the moderator, but my word is final.
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:53 am

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Stuff happened. Follow-the-Fate was amusing while it lasted. Eh.
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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:36 am

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Fate wrote: 3. Cmar thought Andrius was scum when he was OBVTOWN DAY FUCKIN 1
Which is partly why I saw him so scummy.

Fate wrote: What CMAR did wrong:
1. Investigated CHRONO because "he was the lynch of the next day" WHAT? Read my last post you don't investigate obvscum. Even if HE WAS town and not Godfather, were you gonna out yourself just to save him? Lol...
2. Investigated FakeGod, obv vig bait
3. Tried to direct PRs so he could investigate RBT... ???
4. CLAIMED with no pressure for no reason due to outguessing mod speculation.
5. DID NOT CLAIM N1 result BUT made a town list.. with HIMSELF (lol?) KUNKSTAR, and ONE OTHER. His reasoning for Kunkstar was (I TRUST WUT FATE SAID ABOUT KUNK) jesus can you make a flashing sign any bigger?
6. Investigated ANDRIUS because of his whole paranoia bullshit about having a case made up over night and IGNORING d1 where Andrius was wagonned by TWO OR THREE scum for wanting to lynch the MILLER who was SCUM
Re your post:
0. You should have just stuck around. I was *secretly* willing to follow Fate around. But when *stalker* CMAR showed up all your work went to waste.
1. Investigating obv. scum is pointless, CMAR.
2. FakeGod was obv Vig-bait. SV, Ani, and FG were the best Vig kills I've seen. Way to go Jacob!
6. CMAR really lost us the game in the end, but I feel bad for being last townie standing. :(

@ Fate: You know the whole CMAR-bad-playing thing could have been avoided had you kept your mouth shut. ;) Just sayin'.
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:50 am

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It's there. And you're just as much a hot topic as well.
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:52 am

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Our QT is filled with "WHAT R U DOOOOOOOOOOIN?! D="
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:57 am

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If it's not already done, I'm going to nominate Twomz now.
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:12 am

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yabbaguy wrote:It's there. And you're just as much a hot topic as well.
Where is it? :)
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:15 am

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Here. In SC's post, it was right above the list of Night Actions.
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:29 am

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From the QT:

<<Meanwhile, Fate just committed an act of dumbassery at its finest.>>
This. Had you not done that we might have won.

<<Tip: There's only one Mafioso left. All I'll say right now :X>>
I worked that out easily enough.

<<WHAT THE HELL

WHY IS JACOB CLAIMING SK

WHY IS CMAR CLAIMING MAFIA

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THEM>>
THIS. FUCKING CMAR.

<<Also, if JS is so sure andrius is town, why doesn't he just lynch CMAR and shoot twom?>>
I haven't a clue. :(

<<CMAR, you sir, are an idiot.>>
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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:55 am

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I still so no reason for the NL on day four. At all. Even if the investigate was fake, Jacob was sure Andrius was town. Why didn't he just get CMAR lynched and then shoot Twomz? There were 4 people left alive, one person was confirmed (or, if SK, doomed to be killed by the mafia) and the town had two kills. At the very least, Twomz should've had to convince Jacob that both CMAR and Andrius needed death more than he did.

And I still haven't won a game on mafiascum. GODDAMNIT WHY DOES EVERYTHING FALL APART AT THE END EVERY TIME
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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:42 am

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Whoa, we lost...
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:28 am

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Awesome, we... Won?

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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:47 am

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Chrono, I have something to tell you, once an on-going game is done. :)
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:24 pm

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@Animorph
Unfourtuatly the game I played in with you, you were in fact scum so...

I worked out what we could have done better but my mind was on other things so I was trying more "alternative" techqunies which kind of went...
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