An idea:
If BB is lynched and flips scum, can we agree that Trolls are scum?
If we agree that Trolls are scum [due to BB flipping scum-Troll], our switcher can switch Glork with [some random person] and Glork can shoot GreyIce thus catching TWO scum in one day.
If I'm completely wrong and BB does NOT flip scum, switcher can switch Glork and Glork can SAVE his dodge for in case Dazzy gets NK-ed.
Please do me a favor and check my math on that plan. I want to make sure that the switch would still go through even if Dazzy is NK-ed tonight so we aren't leaving Glork vulnerable.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:08 am
by Yates
And just to REALLY mess with scum, we can get buy in on this plan and leave it up to Dazzy to decide who he will switch Glork with - IF ANYONE. That way, scum is still rolling the dice and the "Glork wasn't switched" option is still in play thus giving Glork even better odds of staying alive.
Of course you can always use your dodge, which would be a total mind F*#K, and lynch GI tomorrow. But we still have the issue of finding the SK and it would be nice to have a cop alive to assist with that.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:21 am
by GreyICE
Yeah, Yates is scum, and this is his last hope of winning.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:24 am
by inte
Yates wrote:An idea:
If BB is lynched and flips scum, can we agree that Trolls are scum?
If we agree that Trolls are scum [due to BB flipping scum-Troll]
, our switcher can switch Glork with [some random person] and Glork can shoot
GreyIce thus catching TWO scum in one day
.
If I'm completely wrong and BB does NOT flip scum, switcher can switch Glork and Glork can SAVE his dodge for in case Dazzy gets NK-ed.
Please do me a favor and check my math on that plan. I want to make sure that the switch would still go through even if Dazzy is NK-ed tonight so we aren't leaving Glork vulnerable.
This so hard. We can win easily if we don't get too daring with PR actions.
We really can't be looking too far into flavor like that, I think logic should ALWAYS come before
Glork you will always have a block or dodge, cause all of town should only be nominating you
Once again, only town can vote for SPP
I think a ratio of 9:3:1 looks most logical, seeing as there would be two NK's per night
10:2:1 (not including probable Yates in town category) seems a lot less likely
But for real Occam's razor
Neither Dazzy nor Glork can be night killed, and the only way for us to lose is if there is two scum at LyLo. Dazzy and Glork can lynch one by one everyone else in the game, and cannot be NK'd
Dazzy it is imperative you only vote Glork (same goes for every townie tonight)
I'm fairly confident we will be lynching scum today anyways
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:29 am
by Glork
Inte and Yates: what motivation do you think GreyScum would have for claiming troll when he did?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:48 am
by inte
No idea.
I can give you motivation for "forgetting" that his race was troll.
Anyways were not deciding wether or not he has done something scummy. We're eliminating a scum suspsect and going to associate his race with scum. It's more sure fire than trying to buy into WIFOM.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:50 am
by inte
Hypothetically, what would be your reaction if I dropped right now that my race is also actually troll?
ether or not he has done something scummy. We're eliminating a scum sus
sp
ect and going to associate his race with scum. It's more sure fire than trying to buy into WIFOM.
This is it
exactly
.
I look at it this way; BB was scummy before flavor discussion. What makes him less scummy now? If you are going to test this race "theory" [because it *has* to be fact], what better candidate could there possibly be than a scummy person that has claimed a different race from the rest of Town?
This has the added effect of 100% guaranteeing you are a cop if it gets to LYLO and scum try to paint you in a bad light. By virtue of BB's flip, you prove beyond reasonable doubt that you actually *did* receive role information indicating BB's race.
So really:
1. We learn if Trolls are good or bad
2. If Trolls are bad, we found the second scum and game is just about over
3. If Trolls are good, you just confirmed Town-GreyICE
4. By virtue of the Troll flip, you also just confirmed your cop role
Essentially, you just made the confirmed Town pool [as opposed to the
suspected
Town pool] *that* much larger regardless of scum/Town flip.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:19 am
by PeregrineV
Catching up today, will post when I reach this post.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:48 am
by BBmolla
↑Yates wrote:Also, going with "inte's plan" is absolutely the right thing to do. We simply *have* to lynch BB to find out what he flips. The only reason GreyICE could conceivably oppose this plan is if he is afraid [knows] BB is going to flip scum. Obviously, if [when] BB flips scum, we have just caught his scum buddy. This is what I've been trying to say this entire day. The only way to get NEW information is to do something DIFFERENT. You guys haven't lynched a Troll yet and a Troll hasn't been NK-ed. If it turns out I'm wrong and the Troll is Town, I will literally eat my hat and post the video on youtube.
Yates is trying to lynch me for information.
In probable MYLO.
Does no one else see the problem with this?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:06 am
by Dazzy
Wait. Inte. Please be clear on this - Are you a troll or not?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:14 am
by Yates
He's not. He already posted his info. He is trying to make a point with Glork. Let those two sort it out.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:24 am
by Yates
↑BBmolla wrote:Yates is trying to lynch me for information.
That is correct. I was afraid I wasn't making this point clear.
1) Their name- Turd the Terrible
2) Their role-Troll
3) Their race-Troll
4) Their position- was blitzer now catcher
5) Any actions they have taken day or night- N1 vig on inte (BLINDSIDED)
6) Their MVP votes on both nights- N1 Glork, N2 Tierce
I'm an odd-night vig, I eat people.
N1 I targeted inte because he didn't do anything day1. Since he's still alive, and I was BLINDSIDED, I don't know if I failed or was redirected.
I'll check back, but need to do some paid work for a bit.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:07 am
by inte
the club can't handle me right now
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:25 am
by inte
↑Dazzy wrote:Wait. Inte. Please be clear on this - Are you a troll or not?
No i am not a troll in the scope of this game. The point I was going to make is that there would of been an alarming suspicion after how much I am trying to push that troll = scum
↑inte wrote:I assume molla is the SK cause your invest reveals troll instead of gobbo, which we know for sure is the race of scum because of slandaar's flip
It's only speculation tho
You mean.
Slandaar's
Godfather flip
And he claimed RACE COP?
That's why Glork's claim is 98% believable (the 2% is literally from the fact he's good enough to fake this, anyone else in this game would be 100%).
Slaandar flipped
Gobbo GODFATHER
A race cop makes perfect sense if the Godfather is the same race as everyone else.
I, however, want BBMolla's claim.
Look how he speculates that it makes perfect sense that a role cop would be the investigative role. He doesn't even think about the possibility of a miller, because he already knows that BBmolla is scum. This post came way after his vote btw.
That is where my alarming suspicions come from.
That and somewhere between me setting the rest of my ground for my town position and BBmolla claiming miller, he 180'd his stance on lynching BBmolla.
Even though yesterday he went from trying to lynch glork, to bbmolla, to PV, to slandaar, all the while trying to set me up for a lynch. Idk where he gets that he "pushed" slandaars wagon when he was fucking pushing any wagon that popped up
dunno
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:50 am
by GreyICE
What is this I don't even
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:51 am
by Yates
^^ That is exactly what I was referring to when I told GreyICE he didn't have a leg to stand on and that I could disprove him with his own posts. I quoted some other doozies in that same post including when he was high fiveing Glork for finding a Troll and quickly laid down his vote on BB. Oops. You'd think he would have put the brakes on immediately but that isn't what happened.
1) Their name- Turd the Terrible
2) Their role-Troll
3) Their race-Troll
4) Their position- was blitzer now catcher
5) Any actions they have taken day or night- N1 vig on inte (BLINDSIDED)
6) Their MVP votes on both nights- N1 Glork, N2 Tierce
I'm an odd-night vig, I eat people.
N1 I targeted inte because he didn't do anything day1. Since he's still alive, and I was BLINDSIDED, I don't know if I failed or was redirected.
I'll check back, but need to do some paid work for a bit.
Okay then I guess I'm a miller. How the hell was I supposed to know that though? My role PM doesn't say shit about it. I don't know jack about Blood Bowl, so I thought me being a Troll was a normal thing.
Folks, if we lynch me today, odds are most likely that
WE WILL LOSE
.
1) Their name - Muck the Marvelous
2) Their role - Rookie, aka Vanilla
3) Their race - Troll
4) Their position - I was catcher, but last night I was changed to lineman.
5) Any actions they have taken day or night - None except for voting and nominating.
6) Their MVP votes on both nights - Night 1 Tebow didn't nominate and last night I nominated Glork.
1) Their name - Dizzy the Damage Controller
2) Their role - Fanatic
3) Their race - Gobbo
4) Their position - Catcher (From the start)
5) Any actions they have taken day or night - Switched Glork and Majiffy N1, Switched Grey and PV N2
6) Their MVP votes on both nights - N1 Nominated Tierce, N2 Nominated Grey
N2 I picked the target I thought mafia would want dead most - Grey, and switched him with one of the questionables - PV. I was hoping to steal the kill. The fact that Grey WASN'T killed incriminates him a bit in my eyes.
↑Glork wrote:Fuck this shit. I was hoping Grey was still here, but I'm just going to claim.
I'm Slice the Shredder. I'm a race cop (Looney). I can torture someone with my chainsaw every night, and based on how they scream while I'm cutting them, I can tell what race they are.
N1, I checked pizzadudes. He was on the kondiwagon and basically unreadable to me. He was a gobbo.
N2, the dice roll told me to use my role ability and save my SPP. So I checked BBMolla. He's a TROLL.
So now I have a guilty, and I still get to self-protect tonight.~
1) Fart the Flatulent
2) 1-shot reflexive roleblocker (I can roleblock everyone who targets me once per game). Flavor is a cloud of... well, Fart the Flatulent. You work it out
3) Troll
4) Thrower>Blitzer
5) Used reflexive roleblocker N2.
6) Nominated Glork night 1, nominated no one night 2 (I wanted it).
There is a breadcrumb of the reflexive roleblocker ability, it's not too subtle (or at least it's not supposed to be)
↑inte wrote:w/e
swag you can eliminate me to reduce suspect pool, just make sure you add into your calculations for outcomes that you're hitting a townie
@ bbmolla
... u gotta come up with something better than that
1) Their name - Puke the Perfect
2) Their role - rookie (vanilla)
3) Their race - gobbo
4) Their position - thrower (this is a real funny pun to me)
5) Any actions they have taken day or night - nothing n1, changed positions n2
6) Their MVP votes on both nights - no nominate n1, nominate tierce n2
1) Their name- Turd the Terrible
2) Their role-Troll
3) Their race-Troll
4) Their position- was blitzer now catcher
5) Any actions they have taken day or night- N1 vig on inte (BLINDSIDED)
6) Their MVP votes on both nights- N1 Glork, N2 Tierce
I'm an odd-night vig, I eat people.
N1 I targeted inte because he didn't do anything day1. Since he's still alive, and I was BLINDSIDED, I don't know if I failed or was redirected.
I'll check back, but need to do some paid work for a bit.
