↑Katsuki wrote:Pretty sure you're wrong because I would never say in any game that I was "reading" the game, especially not one like this with wall posters.
Come now are we all going to play the "pretend to never have played with Katsuki" game? Charter I can maybe understand since we've only had 1 or 2 games together, but you I know are much more aware of how I play.
You got lynched in MoCO (Town) for I don't even remember why but you didn't fight it that hard.
IIRC you got Recked out of Blackest Night (scum of some kind) for being obv.
You were kind enough to fakeclaim Cop in MetaTiger (M.Traitor) and got wastefully lynched for that.
You helped Fate screw over the Town in MetaMafia (Town) and got wastefully lynched for that.
Beyond that I'm really not that aware of how you play, no.
As it stands, you are correct that I did not explicitly say why a counterwagon would be difficult to get at this time, though one would imply it from how I said that the
main
wagon would be difficult to get. In addition if a counterwagon would be easy to get there would BE ONE that had more than three people on it.
Of course, I have no idea why I'm saying all this to someone who shamelessly jumped on the main wagon, but completeness, etc.
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 12:54 pm
by Yosarian2
↑charter wrote:Alright, I was just in a game with UN and his play was totally different. I had him as scum that game, and he responded totally different to pressure. I severely doubt UN is scum. That's one of the major reasons I'm not voting him.
Ok. I ISO'd UN's play in that game, and I'm not sure I really see the differnece. Can you spell it out for me?
townread on both of the top wagons
i dislike the way uberninja is trying to get the wagon off of shos, but is setting up for an easy excuse to jump on with his "he's probably scum but I don't want to lynch him
↑UberNinja wrote:
analyze this, people. does this sound like scum to you?
I got a scumread on him, but I don't see that wagon going anywhere today
If it does pick up steam, I would jump on, because it has my support
I feel like he is flailing the same way shos did earlier in the game. Shos jumping onto your wagon, and then back off when it didn't build steam, has me questioning my read on you tbh.
"Yada Yada, I want to have an opportunity to say I suspected him before"
you can be scum, but i don't see you making that gambit as scum, so you're being sarcastic
Wishy Washy
↑Furcolow wrote:Vi's looking scummier
UN is now my strongest town read
placeholder on Vi.
↑Furcolow wrote:So you think Vi is scum? I had a townread on her, but I'm feeling like some pressure there would be nice. I'm tired of her defenses, honestly, and am wondering if she's just trying to buy town cred
unvote;
vote: vi
I isod Nuwen, and I'm just now seeing it. There are much better candidates.
Huh? ViTown? What was 538 about?
And seriously, the only vote he's put that isn't a wagon hop was on me. And the reason? Asking other people where did FurcTown come from?
UNVOTE
VOTE FURCOLOW
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:17 pm
by Vi
Zar, juuuuuuuust checking, but are you at all conscious of the game you are playing right now?~
↑Katsuki wrote:Pretty sure you're wrong because I would never say in any game that I was "reading" the game, especially not one like this with wall posters.
Come now are we all going to play the "pretend to never have played with Katsuki" game? Charter I can maybe understand since we've only had 1 or 2 games together, but you I know are much more aware of how I play.
You got lynched in MoCO (Town) for I don't even remember why but you didn't fight it that hard.
IIRC you got Recked out of Blackest Night (scum of some kind) for being obv.
You were kind enough to fakeclaim Cop in MetaTiger (M.Traitor) and got wastefully lynched for that.
You helped Fate screw over the Town in MetaMafia (Town) and got wastefully lynched for that.
I got lynched in MoCO because I couldn't OUT-CAPS scumFate.
I got lynched in Blackest Night because a Mason Recruiter Reck died trying to recruit me and mason buddy outed me.
I got screwed over in MetaTiger by cheating red-text.
You're leaving out Dynasty Warriors mafia where we shared a QT and was really the game where we played the most together.
Vi wrote:
As it stands, you are correct that I did not explicitly say why a counterwagon would be difficult to get at this time, though one would imply it from how I said that the
main
wagon would be difficult to get. In addition if a counterwagon would be easy to get there would BE ONE that had more than three people on it.
Of course, I have no idea why I'm saying all this to someone who shamelessly jumped on the main wagon, but completeness, etc.
Considering the main wagon had only 4 votes, and other wagon only 3, painting me as scum bussing and going "nope no plausible counter wagon nu uh" is a pretty piss poor argument.
Oh well I'd try and push for your lynch but I'm not going to get it today so.
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:18 pm
by Katsuki
Oh god this game.
NEED MOAR BULLETS
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:22 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
as some1 who has played a lot of games with katsuki i can say this is par for the course and isnt making me lean one way or the other on him. its too bad you were only obvtown in the game where i was scum and already knew your alignment :<
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:23 pm
by Katsuki
↑kanyeknowsbest wrote:as some1 who has played a lot of games with katsuki i can say this is par for the course and isnt making me lean one way or the other on him. its too bad you were only obvtown in the game where i was scum and already knew your alignment :<
Yeah and it'll be years before I ever put in the effort I did for that game again.
OK maybe I'm lying with Team Mafia coming up but still.
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:26 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
hey kats lets be scumbuddies in another game sometime those are always lots of fun
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:27 pm
by Zar
↑shos wrote:
look at UN's bandwagoning again. this is what, the 5th person he's voting already?
Eh, I don't see how that specifically is a reason for anyone to be scum. Some players just vote more than others.
You might be right about the you-not-reading-the-game part. <.<
I take it the answer to Vi 853 is "no".
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:31 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
btw something id like to point out that ive been thinking a little about, this wagon (Elmo TeH AzN (4): Nuwen, kanyeknowsbest, Yosarian2, Furcolow,) did not get pushed through by scum. i think its undeniable that i will take a lot of heat (the most out of ne1 on the wagon) should elmo flip town. 2 conclusions im gonna have to come back to after he flips eventually (i swear to god if he makes it more than a few days without flipping im gonna be steamin mad!!), scum refusing to bus or a scum heavy wagon that didnt get any town support.
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:41 pm
by Zar
↑Parama wrote:i'm so sick of this day 1
can we lynch someone slready
preferrably scum?
↑shos wrote:no it's not a threat; but your last few posts are really void of any content.
I am going back through to ISO all of these players (both simultaneously) and see what I can see. I'm not going to do 3 at once because that's stupid. But I can draw connections well enough based on 2 players, so here are the possible scum pairs, and I will give my thoughts on each along with the likelihood, when I get the chance.
Spoiler: Possible scum pairings
shos
Vi
shos
diddin/Katsuki
shos
QuilmoTeHAzN
shos
Pirate Chiermosticada
shos
Yosarian2
shos
Parama
shos
Nuwen
shos
Zar
shos
charter
shos
kanyeknowsbest
shos
Furcolow
Vi
diddin/Katsuki
Vi
QuilmoTeHAzN
Vi
Pirate Chiermosticada
Vi
Yosarian2
Vi
Parama
Vi
Nuwen
Vi
Zar
Vi
charter
Vi
kanyeknowsbest
Vi
Furcolow
diddin/Katsuki
QuilmoTeHAzN
diddin/Katsuki
Pirate Chiermosticada
diddin/Katsuki
Yosarian2
diddin/Katsuki
Parama
diddin/Katsuki
Nuwen
diddin/Katsuki
Zar
diddin/Katsuki
charter
diddin/Katsuki
kanyeknowsbest
diddin/Katsuki
Furcolow
QuilmoTeHAzN
Pirate Chiermosticada
QuilmoTeHAzN
Yosarian2
QuilmoTeHAzN
Parama
QuilmoTeHAzN
Nuwen
QuilmoTeHAzN
Zar
QuilmoTeHAzN
charter
QuilmoTeHAzN
kanyeknowsbest
QuilmoTeHAzN
Furcolow
Pirate Chiermosticada
Yosarian2
Pirate Chiermosticada
Parama
Pirate Chiermosticada
Nuwen
Pirate Chiermosticada
Zar
Pirate Chiermosticada
charter
Pirate Chiermosticada
kanyeknowsbest
Pirate Chiermosticada
Furcolow
Yosarian2
Parama
Yosarian2
Nuwen
Yosarian2
Zar
Yosarian2
charter
Yosarian2
kanyeknowsbest
Yosarian2
Furcolow
Parama
Nuwen
Parama
Zar
Parama
charter
Parama
kanyeknowsbest
Parama
Furcolow
Nuwen
Zar
Nuwen
charter
Nuwen
kanyeknowsbest
Nuwen
Furcolow
Zar
charter
Zar
kanyeknowsbest
Zar
Furcolow
charter
kanyeknowsbest
charter
Furcolow
kanyeknowsbest
Furcolow
Everyone else feel free to comment on this as well, or make your own.
I've left myself out of this list as I know I'm not scum, but if you want to add me in your own, be my guest.
It'll be more material for me to analyze.
UN-useful
without a lynch flip.
↑Vi wrote:Zar, juuuuuuuust checking, but are you at all conscious of the game you are playing right now?~
Honestly, can we get over with this day?
Tiers:
Tier 1:
Would Gladly Lynch:
Uberninja, Pirate, Furcolow
Tier 2:
Would Compromise (in order of preference):
Elmo, Kanye, Nuwen, Katsuki, Parama
Tier 3:
Town Reads:
shos, Charter, Vi, Yosarian
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:44 pm
by Zar
Tiers are also the response to 810.
We better try to agree on the lynch, we can't still be on the Rainbow Voting here.
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:48 pm
by charter
↑kanyeknowsbest wrote:btw something id like to point out that ive been thinking a little about, this wagon (Elmo TeH AzN (4): Nuwen, kanyeknowsbest, Yosarian2, Furcolow,) did not get pushed through by scum. i think its undeniable that i will take a lot of heat (the most out of ne1 on the wagon) should elmo flip town. 2 conclusions im gonna have to come back to after he flips eventually (i swear to god if he makes it more than a few days without flipping im gonna be steamin mad!!), scum refusing to bus or a scum heavy wagon that didnt get any town support.
Is there any possible way a townie makes this post? If this isn't trying to cover your ass for a wagon you know is on town, I don't know what is.
↑charter wrote:Alright, I was just in a game with UN and his play was totally different. I had him as scum that game, and he responded totally different to pressure. I severely doubt UN is scum. That's one of the major reasons I'm not voting him.
Ok. I ISO'd UN's play in that game, and I'm not sure I really see the differnece. Can you spell it out for me?
I was on to him day two (day one lasted 3 pages) and his arguments were so ridiculous that I had to stop arguing with him altogether. I don't see that in this game.
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:59 pm
by Vi
Zar 862 wrote:Honestly, can we get over with this day?
Zar 852 wrote:UNVOTE
VOTE FURCOLOW
--
charter 864 wrote:Is there any possible way a townie makes this post? If this isn't trying to cover your ass for a wagon you know is on town, I don't know what is.
Well he didn't have to bring up Elmo in a UN/Nuwesarian2 fight.
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:03 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
↑charter wrote:Is there any possible way a townie makes this post? If this isn't trying to cover your ass for a wagon you know is on town, I don't know what is.
do you disagree that its odd that none of the wagons that have made it to 4 or 5 votes have managed to get pushed through?
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:03 pm
by springlullaby
Pirate Chemist has been prodded.
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:04 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
also please note im using that as further evidence that elmo is scum since everyone on that wagon with me i have a town read on. the conclusion im drawing ther eis hes scum.
Zar 862 wrote:Honestly, can we get over with this day?
Zar 852 wrote:UNVOTE
VOTE FURCOLOW
Why is he a town read of yours?
I'll give you another chance.
Zar 862 wrote:We better try to agree on the lynch, we can't still be on the Rainbow Voting here.
Zar 868 wrote:(1) Furcolow: Zar,
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:08 pm
by Vi
↑kanyeknowsbest wrote:also please note im using that as further evidence that elmo is scum since everyone on that wagon with me i have a town read on. the conclusion im drawing ther eis hes scum.
↑kanyeknowsbest wrote:also please note im using that as further evidence that elmo is scum since everyone on that wagon with me i have a town read on. the conclusion im drawing ther eis hes scum.
Scum enough not to join any other wagon?
i really want him lynched, but i dont think its going to happen today. i dont like the un wagon or the yos wagon. id settle for pirate but theres not really anyone else i really want to lynch. ive been tunneling hard as fuck so im going to reread and ignore him and see if anyone else grabs my attention.
