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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:13 pm

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oh yeahlol I forgot I can do this
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:14 pm

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I actually approve of that, as long as it doesn't cost a lynch.
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:14 pm

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oh it has to be daykill not shoot...

TREVOR YOU GOT LIFELINED

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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:19 pm

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T-Bone wrote:Well I'm going on V/la. Might get a post or two in tomorrow late night. On that note, silly BBmolla, not Town cat, Vanilla Townie.

EDIT: I answered your fucking question Armun. I'll answer it again. UN's behavior is anti-town. Thus he is anti-town. I'm getting fucking frustrated with your blatant retard-like reading ability.


I didn't ask if he was anti-town. You didn't say, "We should lynch Uber Ninja because he's anti-town." You said that he is SCUM. You repeatedly refused to answer my question as to why his behavior makes him scum.
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:20 pm

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Muffin Wednesday wrote:T-Bone: redFF, petapan, manho, Fritzler, and all the lurkers have anti-town behavior. Are they all anti-ton?


I'd say yeah. Statistically of course not everyone who exhibits anti-town behavior can be scum, but it's a good starting point.
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:21 pm

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T-Bone wrote:
Muffin Wednesday wrote:T-Bone: redFF, petapan, manho, Fritzler, and all the lurkers have anti-town behavior. Are they all anti-ton?


I'd say yeah. Statistically of course not everyone who exhibits anti-town behavior can be scum, but it's a good starting point.


Show me meta of you espousing this terrible crap elsewhere.
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:32 pm

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Go look for it your fucking self. Meta arguments are shit.
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:39 pm

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T-Bone wrote:
Go look for it your fucking self. Meta arguments are shit.


Sorry, a bit much.

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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:41 pm

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Amrun wrote:Why do you think Fritzler is scum?

I don't know why she thinks. She should probably read some games before she realizes she is crazy. Like this game where I was a 2 shot day vig. I used both of my shots in the first two pages. Also, I was 50% in scumhunting, which is better than the town is doing collectively. Holler.

Ellibereth wrote:oh it has to be daykill not shoot...

TREVOR YOU GOT LIFELINED

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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:45 pm

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T-Bone wrote:
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Go look for it your fucking self. Meta arguments are shit.


Sorry, a bit much.

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I can understand your aggression.

Amrun, stop being an arrogant prick. YOU are the one coming off scummy as fuck. incorrect wording while being haggled or voting anti-town isn't scummy, it's simply poor decision making at BEST. Vote jumping, riding one person over small elements of what they say, OMGUSing and lacking any credible scumhunting IS scummy.
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:48 pm

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TeChNoWC wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
Go look for it your fucking self. Meta arguments are shit.


Sorry, a bit much.

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I can understand your aggression.

Amrun, stop being an arrogant prick. YOU are the one coming off scummy as fuck. incorrect wording while being haggled or voting anti-town isn't scummy, it's simply poor decision making at BEST. Vote jumping, riding one person over small elements of what they say, OMGUSing and lacking any credible scumhunting IS scummy.
I actually think you both look pretty town, and we should lynch uber ninja. Of course, I like revenge voting people who vote me.
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:50 pm

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Nah, I'm in the wrong in the bad language department.

UN is a good lynch. I'm going for real this time. I hope to be alive on Sunday. Make it happen Fritz ;)
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 4:55 pm

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I actually meant that Tech and Aumrum-ineum (like Finding Nemo saying ammonium) are town. You are pretty legit, but don't want to fall under my command....eh...

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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 5:08 pm

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Not sure about Amrun being town. I don't understand his logic behind riding T-Bone. Putting pressure on people I am all for, trying to create a bandwagon on a seemingly townie player, and being quite arrogant about it, just comes off as scummy to me.

I would be ok with an Uber lynch. Semi-scummy read for his quickvote on you (accepting someone elses reasoning that was no reasoning) and loltrolling, and little amount of scumhunting. I think I would like Uber to claim at this stage, he has made subtle references to the fact that he is a mafia role. At this stage though, I want to be evaluating every possible option. Currently reading up on 'elmo' that peta was spouting on about earlier.
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 5:12 pm

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TeChNoWC wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
Go look for it your fucking self. Meta arguments are shit.


Sorry, a bit much.

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I can understand your aggression.

Amrun, stop being an arrogant prick. YOU are the one coming off scummy as fuck. incorrect wording while being haggled or voting anti-town isn't scummy, it's simply poor decision making at BEST. Vote jumping, riding one person over small elements of what they say, OMGUSing and lacking any credible scumhunting IS scummy.


I'm not being arrogant at all. I don't care about his incorrect wording. I asked him to tell me what was scummy about UberNinja, and he had NO ANSWER. Literally none at all. THAT'S what's scummy.

NONE of the things you listed are scummy except for not having any credible scumhunting, which isn't even true.
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 5:54 pm

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@imaginality: The more I think about it, the more I think that coming out with it is actually a good idea.

Fine, we are NOT confirmed to each other. However, based on a few things, I will be treating him/her/them as my mason partner(s).

1. Statistically speaking, the odds of one of the angels being scum is pretty much negligible.
2. I firmly believe that the optimal play for town neighbors is to treat themselves as masons. It eliminates the drawbacks of neighbors (paranoia, failure to use the QT for anything constructive) and turns them from a role that's only SLIGHTLY better than a vt (and arguably worse depending on the situation) into a powerful force on the side of the town.
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3. The nature of our ability makes it a balancing issue if handed to the scum. This should be obvious.

@theamateur: You clearly didn't read my post. Not answering any of your silly questions of silliness.

Elli is obvtown. So is Fritzler. Sheeping Fritzler for the time being.

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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 6:22 pm

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MattP wrote:Zdenek, my read on T-bone is in reference to a game that no longer exists due to the crash, with my fortune.

Did he play similarly in his other scum games? Can you recall how his play in that game is different from his usual town game? After just ISOing T-Bone, I don't see him as being a good lynch. He's being open with reads, fairly aggressive and useful.

I don't care for Amrun's defense of UberNinja in 789. It reminds me of Amrun's play in Flash mafia 4, eaten by the crash, where she was also aggressively unhelpful. Here she's reducing the pressure on a slot that needs to provide more.

I'm pretty sure that Muffin is pulling reads out of his ass. One thing that struck me was the difference in his reads on manho and MoS, but here are all their posts at that point.

manho wrote:28 pages.

i will skip them all.

is there TL;DR?

manho wrote:ok, i lied. i've read the opening post.

but what's a mime?

Mastermind of Sin wrote:33 pages in a day and a half. Fuck this shit, literally. The only reason I don't replace out right now is because I made a deal with myko and I don't think he's going to find that many people willing to replace. Seriously, I'm not going to reread a single post that I miss in this game cuz fuck you guys. Also, still V/LA.


I also think he is being far too liberal with his town reads and his scum reads are poorly justified. So that long post of his was awful.

UN agreeing with it for no reason is also terrible.

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I've been asked this already, the answer is no.

Maybe try contributing more than one liners? Scumreads? Townreads? Anything that can be classed as contribution other than a vote?

From where are you getting your background on bbmolla?

I'm okay with Trevor being day vigged, primarily for his role fishing and because it looks like he'll be useless.

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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 7:10 pm

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Zdenek wrote:
MattP wrote:Zdenek, my read on T-bone is in reference to a game that no longer exists due to the crash, with my fortune.

Did he play similarly in his other scum games? Can you recall how his play in that game is different from his usual town game? After just ISOing T-Bone, I don't see him as being a good lynch. He's being open with reads, fairly aggressive and useful.

I don't care for Amrun's defense of UberNinja in 789. It reminds me of Amrun's play in Flash mafia 4, eaten by the crash, where she was also aggressively unhelpful. Here she's reducing the pressure on a slot that needs to provide more.

I'm pretty sure that Muffin is pulling reads out of his ass. One thing that struck me was the difference in his reads on manho and MoS, but here are all their posts at that point.

manho wrote:28 pages.

i will skip them all.

is there TL;DR?

manho wrote:ok, i lied. i've read the opening post.

but what's a mime?

Mastermind of Sin wrote:33 pages in a day and a half. Fuck this shit, literally. The only reason I don't replace out right now is because I made a deal with myko and I don't think he's going to find that many people willing to replace. Seriously, I'm not going to reread a single post that I miss in this game cuz fuck you guys. Also, still V/LA.


I also think he is being far too liberal with his town reads and his scum reads are poorly justified. So that long post of his was awful.

UN agreeing with it for no reason is also terrible.

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Ellibereth wrote:YOU ALT?


I've been asked this already, the answer is no.

Maybe try contributing more than one liners? Scumreads? Townreads? Anything that can be classed as contribution other than a vote?

From where are you getting your background on bbmolla?

I'm okay with Trevor being day vigged, primarily for his role fishing and because it looks like he'll be useless.

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I agree, muffin seems pretty fishy right now; his wall and subsequent vote just didn't sit well with me, and neither did his defence. Also not sure why he is in favour of T-Bone lynch; his reasoning isn't adequate enough in my opinion.
I played a game with BB that is still ongoing (the same one I referred to with red) and I read up on some of his meta while scumhunting him in that game. He just always seems somewhat scummy, so I am not sure what to assume. If his wagon takes off, I'll go back through and look at some more of his meta (I can't remember what games he was found as scum or town in, and the matching playstyles, all I remember is none of his playstyles seemed any different from another).

@ peta: Your read on elmo is understandable, and his input level minimal; he seems pretty scummy but I would personally be giving him a chance to post more/defend himself. He seems more articulate than milk, and this in itself could make him a more suitable lynch. As I said before, intelligent mafia are more dangerous than less intelligent mafia. Do you have any meta on him (town vs scum)? Any post of his (in this game) that stood out to you as particularly scummy?
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 7:30 pm

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It'll have to be tomorrow because I sure as hell don't have time for this today.
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 7:44 pm

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UberNinja wrote:It'll have to be tomorrow because I sure as hell don't have time for this today.

Stalling for claim.
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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 7:50 pm

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Votecount


uberninja (6): chevre, T-Bone, luffy, bbmolla, fritzler, kairyuu
T-bone (3): theamatuer, Thetrollie, amrun
Milk (2): Trevor, Spyrex
Fritzler (2): Muffin Wednesday, Uberninja
bbmolla (2): Hoopla, mattp
elmo teh azn (1): Petapan
theamatuer (1): redff
RedFF (1): YYR
rhinox (1): dramonic
Trevor (1): peregrinev
Spyrex (1): milk
trevor (1): Ellibereth
muffin wednesday (1): zdenek
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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 8:21 pm

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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 8:31 pm

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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:45 pm

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VT, I don't care
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2012 11:48 pm

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I'm starting to think that UberNinja is town.

I'm also thinking Trevor is an idiot.
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