Meta Playstyle Mafia(Game Over, Town Wins!)

[Nero Cain]

BITMAP IS NOT A SURVIVOR

So what do you think he is then?

[MattP]

So what do you think he is then?

A bottom

[Nachomamma8]

...chk neighborized him and didn't talk at all.

No, we had 5 posts in the QT, which i could post for you but they really weren't that interesting. I ended up ditching him halfway through the convo

I don't even know where you're heading with this Nacho. If we investigated someone like Nero Cain, Voided, or OmNom ( at the time ) we could've learned something in relation to tells, for example, but you didn't suggest any of the three now did you?

something in relation to tells
like medhi says that nero cain is guilty
or medhi says that nero cain is innocent
and we learn absolutely nothing

Uh, no, he isn't? Yeah, he claims the role he didn't get was town spy, and... This is supposed to clear him how, exactly? D'you think he would claim mafia?

the mod isn't going to change his alignment because that throws things off-balance

Uh, no, he isn't? Yeah, he claims the role he didn't get was town spy, and... This is supposed to clear him how, exactly? D'you think he would claim mafia?

so i'm sure monkey didn't change his alignment
because if he did, that would be absolutely ridiculous
so jacob pretty instantly claiming town spy seems like a really hard thing to fake
soooo confirmed town

LITERALLY GO FUCK YOURSELVES

IM NOT LYNCHING A CONFIRMED ANTITOWN PLAYER THAT'S TRYING TO GET HIMSELF LYNCHED

are you fucking kidding me
bitmap claimed miller so he would get shot
when lurker claimed miller, bitmap was like "oh well i guess we're both getting shot"
THAT IS NOT A JESTER
THAT IS A SURVIVOR

[chkflip]

We're letting this guy go?

[JacobSavage]

We're letting this guy go?

Which Guy?

[Nero Cain]

He's talking about Nacho.

[Toogeloo]

Matt, you are assuming we even have a Vig. Bitmap is confirmed not town, with more confidence than Trollie or Nacho. They are probably scum as well, but you don't go for what you don't know over what you do know. Bitmap needs to die today. He probably isn't a double voting Jester that is allowed to vote for himself. I really don't think a mod puts something like that in a game no matter how bastard it is.

[PeregrineV]

We're letting this guy go?

What happened in the QT that makes you think Nacho is scum?

[Bitmap]

Matt, you are assuming we even have a Vig. Bitmap is confirmed not town, with more confidence than Trollie or Nacho. They are probably scum as well, but you don't go for what you don't know over what you do know. Bitmap needs to die today. He probably isn't a double voting Jester that is allowed to vote for himself. I really don't think a mod puts something like that in a game no matter how bastard it is.

I was a 1-shot Deathproof Reviver Jester in a Marathon game once.

So, wait, what happened? I was so sure I was going to get lynched...

[Bitmap]

VOTE: Trollie

Choo Choo!

[Nero Cain]

in a Marathon game once.

Marathon=//=all the other games on here.

[TheTrollie]

o, fuck, while this wagon was forming on me I wuz working on this post

I challenge any of you to find a single fucking reason for finding me scummy. I think TAM is the way to go here.

ArcAngel

- I don't buy the derpynewb act-- she has tons of games under her belt, even though she's new to the forum. I see more of her scum meta playing out here with the derpiness than her town play which was derpy but showed better issue selection.

Bitmap

- im likening to 1-shot bp jester. goes in yesterday with Miller claim to…no…i take that back. bitmap is all sorts of trouble. If he is a jester he would never have claimed, he would have stayed strong on miller to get lynched (though that would have risked his being vigged i guess, idk) I'll get back to him I'm more interested in lesser discussed players. Aren't Jesters in Open games sometimes? I never considered them bastard before. UPDATE after catching up i agree with matt on this one. We can't vote a claimed 3-rd party who is self-voting. R there any jester-esq roles where the player wins only if they are shot?

chkflip

- #309 is weird. As Matt pointed out before, this

heavily

implies he knows that L-1 is gonna cause the lynch. I think town but that one post is bugging me. I assume neighborizer does not generally imply alignment right?

elmo

- dont know elmo's scum-meta, but this looks like the Town-elmo i've played with before.

GNR

- could definitely use more activity from GNR. Leaning town based on similarities I see between his play here and in some of his recent town games.

JacobSavage

- I just caught up this is all very confusing. Let me see if i got things straight. You were at first going to be given ur own special role, then ppl complained, Monkey gave u the same role as SA, and then I'm confused about why you would claim in #823 unless that is now no longer going to be ur role….or wait ok. So that was your JacobSavage role but then you were changed back to SAs role. Is that correct?

lurker

- gotta fucking be kidding me with that activity. Conftown b/c of the Maestro claim.

maenara

- #563 is very bad. one of her big things she keeps bringing up is "we already know trollie is scum" but then she goes back in this post to say that she doesn't really know why, but because I'm confirmed scum so she knows she will find something. She is riding on the wave of trollie-scum, trying to gain towncred by agreeing with a scum read. I also really dislike her assumptions on the chk stuff but i think thats due to derpyness not to alignment.

UPDATE: checked some of Mae's meta. in this game she is a VT. Her play is similar to her play here in that her posts are pretty fluffy and unfocused. However, a notable difference between her play there and here is that she is much more aggressive and, at movements, very pointed in her posting.

Maestro

- Oracle claim = town

MattP

- pain-in-my-ass town. Honestly going into this game if i had to guess what his meta-role would be, Trollie-lyncher would be high up on the list of possibilities. That being said I don't think thats what his role actually is cause I believe the lightning rod claim, also maestro's result. So yeah He'z town as shit.

Nacho

- I don't see any glaring issues with nacho's play like others seem to. I wish this ongoing game was fucking not ongoing. I will sheep other people's reads of him if I can't get behind one of the other wagons.

Nero Cain

- I actually really like Nero Cain's play. His scumhunting is sorta the opposite style as matt's int hat NC follows up rather than setting up. I like the combination of the two.

Om

- yeah he's very town. I didn't love his early D1 play but since then he's become a strong town read. He's like a version of Venmar who at least seems to be thinking for himself and believes in his reads.

PeregrineV

- about 90% of his posts are clarification questions. Getting scum vibes from him for trying to keep up the impression of active scum hunting. PVs play reminds me a lot of another player's scum-play that i've seen recently.

rofl

- I don't think the post restriction is necessarily faked. I've seen just as limiting post restrictions in other large theme games (I'm thinking mainly 90s cartoon mafia). Hard to get any read on him because of the supposed post restriction. Might be able to by re-reading the thread but the ISO alone is uninformative. I would guess rofl is town just because of the nature of his restriction.

TAM

- All of his posts are about catching up/his activity or parroting general sentiment or role fishing. I don't know how i didn't see this earlier.

Toog

- conftown.

venmar

- you already know my opinion of him. I don't think he's generated a single unique/independent thought all game. I fucking hate it when I have strong reads like this that no one listens to. Sometimes I'm wrong about them, but sometimes I'm right….just sayin' Anyway I still think he's scum.

Voidedmafia

- I am tired from all this ISOing and it just so happens that the most annoying player to have to ISO is also the last lol. I'm not gonna read through all of it but I don't think I really have to because VM is a strong town read for me. This is especially clear reading his non-picture posts. His stance on his own role restriction and the way he is using his content posts/the content he is giving all read town.

UNVOTE: venmar
VOTE: TAM

[MattP]

Matt, you are assuming we even have a Vig. Bitmap is confirmed not town, with more confidence than Trollie or Nacho. They are probably scum as well, but you don't go for what you don't know over what you do know. Bitmap needs to die today. He probably isn't a double voting Jester that is allowed to vote for himself. I really don't think a mod puts something like that in a game no matter how bastard it is.

I KNOW TROLLIE. HE IS SCUM. THIS ISN'T LIKE "LOLMAYBHE'SSCUM"

I'm not saying Bitmap is a jester, I'm saying bitmap can be ANYTHING. He may not be a survivor. He may be a bomb or something with a fucked up wincon. We don't know what he is, he's not playing on our side, he can easily be lying. I can't even begin to fathom what his role may be. Who the fuck cares, he's not my concern right now. Guess what, if he's alive in two days and we have a period where we're unsure who is scum and we know there's no Vig, then fine let's lynch his ass, but there is NO reason to right now!

[MattP]

Trollie's best lynch idea on pg 35 is to vote for someone who is active lurking over Venmar who he is positive is scum

Give me a fucking break

Everything he's done has been scummy. His behavior towards Mehdi is scummy. Do I need to draw up a fucking case??? We agreed to leave him for a bit because Mehdi was more of a threat. Fucking SHEEP ME

[TheTrollie]

Trollie's best lynch idea on pg 35 is to vote for someone who is active lurking over Venmar who he is positive is scum

Give me a fucking break

Everything he's done has been scummy. His behavior towards Mehdi is scummy. Do I need to draw up a fucking case??? We agreed to leave him for a bit because Mehdi was more of a threat. Fucking SHEEP ME

I want to lynch scum, not just vote scum you fucktard

[Bitmap]

Okay Matt, I, the third-party, will sheep you.

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unvote, vote: trollie

[Bitmap]

Matt, you are assuming we even have a Vig. Bitmap is confirmed not town, with more confidence than Trollie or Nacho. They are probably scum as well, but you don't go for what you don't know over what you do know. Bitmap needs to die today. He probably isn't a double voting Jester that is allowed to vote for himself. I really don't think a mod puts something like that in a game no matter how bastard it is.

I KNOW TROLLIE. HE IS SCUM. THIS ISN'T LIKE "LOLMAYBHE'SSCUM"

I'm not saying Bitmap is a jester, I'm saying bitmap can be ANYTHING. He may not be a survivor. He may be a bomb or something with a fucked up wincon. We don't know what he is, he's not playing on our side, he can easily be lying. I can't even begin to fathom what his role may be. Who the fuck cares, he's not my concern right now. Guess what, if he's alive in two days and we have a period where we're unsure who is scum and we know there's no Vig, then fine let's lynch his ass, but there is NO reason to right now!

You seem pretty paranoid.

[Bitmap]

Now Matt, what in my meta would suggest I'm a bomb with a fucked up wincon?

[Bitmap]

Wait a minute, I think I see the big picture now.

[PeregrineV]

No, we had 5 posts in the QT, which i could post for you but they really weren't that interesting. I ended up ditching him halfway through the convo

Why?

[Venmar]

Vote: TheTrollie

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fos: peregrine

[TheTrollie]

Ok great, i hope you all enjoy voting me on a fucking MattP sheepfest. Matt's case against me is literally that I wouldn't join his Medhi wagon and instead chose to stick with my scumread. Are none of you reading anything besides MattP's votes?

[Bitmap]

Hey Trollie, is Matt the type of player who would buss his partner really hard and tunnel them on Day 1 to earn town cred? This is a serious question.