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Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 5:37 am
by shos
lol because it's verifiable. if he says I lied and I'm lynched and flip as I said, that means he lied >_>

and yes, I did, on pimhel. did you miss the discussion between tierce and me?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:03 am
by Voidedmafia
In post 850, shos wrote:lol because it's verifiable. if he says I lied and I'm lynched and flip as I said, that means he lied >_>

and yes, I did, on pimhel. did you miss the discussion between tierce and me?
...wait, what?

Why are you saying I lied when I clearly stated what I found with you?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:06 am
by shos
...should be, "if he had lied, then I would have flipped town and everyone would know that he had lied and he'd be lynched".

works?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:09 am
by Voidedmafia
In post 852, shos wrote:...should be, "if he had lied, then I would have flipped town and everyone would know that he had lied and he'd be lynched".

works?
...but why are you saying I lied?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:21 am
by Tierce
...Is there some epidemic of idiocy here? WTF, Voided. It was an hypothetical, shos isn't saying you lied.

Still haven't gone through the game in-depth, but I think I can work from PoE from my Townreads.

Of note that PimHel would not have expected to die, which makes me wonder about why he voteblocked Syryana. I need to be awake to go through that, my brain feels like sludge.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:27 am
by serrapaladin
Yeah, I missed where you said that earlier, shos.

Tierce, I still think Pim would have targeted a townread of his, as even if he had survived, it would have been pretty unlikely for the vote-block to have been associated with him. I also think his townread was entirely wrong.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:33 am
by Tierce
In post 855, serrapaladin wrote:Tierce, I still think Pim would have targeted a townread of his, as even if he had survived, it would have been pretty unlikely for the vote-block to have been associated with him. I also think his townread was entirely wrong.
I imagine so, but the bit about it being a gambit would be entirely different if he had lived.

My main hold-up with Syryana at present is his activity. He feels desinterested, and I know that he prefers playing scum. This is not a point of the game where I could picture him not bothering with the game if he were scum, even with PimHel's death. But I still want to go through my previous stuff and read things more thoroughly.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:57 am
by serrapaladin
A quick check of Tenements shows three prods for scum-Syry...

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 7:19 am
by The Rufflig
In post 856, Tierce wrote:I imagine so, but the bit about it being a gambit would be entirely different if he had lived.
I don't follow you. Under what circumstances would you feel that this could be a gambit?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 7:43 am
by Voidedmafia
In post 854, Tierce wrote:...Is there some epidemic of idiocy here? WTF, Voided. It was an hypothetical, shos isn't saying you lied.
Then why is he saying for people to vote me, then?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 7:54 am
by Tierce
In post 858, The Rufflig wrote:
In post 856, Tierce wrote:I imagine so, but the bit about it being a gambit would be entirely different if he had lived.
I don't follow you. Under what circumstances would you feel that this could be a gambit?
Voteblockers can be Town. PimHel was subtly defending Syryana without ever really expressing a read on him. I don't think he knew his buddies (there is no specification of difference in a Saulus role i.e. "unlike other mafia-allies, you don't know your buddies", so Saulus, a mafia-ally, does not know its buddies), but if Pim had lived, during massclaim, he could explain a voteblock on Syryana-perceived-buddy by saying he was aiming for scum. It would raise the question of why he didn't target his public scumreads, but it would be a viable gambit.

I don't think that's what happened; I don't think Pim planned to claim voteblocker. But it's a possibility that I'm not entirely discounting; Pim's play seems cunning enough for that and his treatment of Syryana fits with a traitor-like role protecting his perceived scumbuddy.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 7:58 am
by Tierce
I think my brain fried halfway through that. There's probably a logic jump somewhere and I'm too scattered to spot it.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:02 am
by Tierce
/crutch

Rufflig, who's scum?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:09 am
by Tierce
In post 859, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 854, Tierce wrote:...Is there some epidemic of idiocy here? WTF, Voided. It was an hypothetical, shos isn't saying you lied.
Then why is he saying for people to vote me, then?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:20 am
by shos
I honestly don't believe taht you of all people would be so dumb this game to both not understand the above and not understand my hints D2 and entirely ignore my longposts.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:34 am
by Voidedmafia
In post 864, shos wrote:I honestly don't believe taht you of all people would be so dumb this game to both not understand the above and not understand my hints D2 and entirely ignore my longposts.
I'm just not really seeing why you want people to vote me.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:46 am
by shos
oh that is because you are scum mate

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:54 am
by Voidedmafia
In post 866, shos wrote:oh that is because you are scum mate
...That's not an explanation.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:03 am
by shos
I've said well and enough why I think you are scum and am not going to start researching for it. you're welcome to reread or ISO me, I'm back to the army tomorrow and I'm busy for the while

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:09 am
by Oversoul
Shos are you only going after Voided because he was oblivious to your crumbs?

Think about it for a second, what pro-scum motivation is there for purposefully ignoring it?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:12 am
by Tierce
This is like watching Thor and Zdenek in ADwD. Imagine my delight for being in such a ridiculous situation again.

shos, for the last time. Obliviousness is not a scumtell and there's no indication that Voided was faking it. Voidedscum would have a lot of benefit from acknowledging it and then killing you silently. He didn't, therefore the obliviousness is genuine.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:53 am
by The Rufflig
In post 862, Tierce wrote:Rufflig, who's scum?
SerraPaladin

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:54 am
by Tierce
In post 871, The Rufflig wrote:
In post 862, Tierce wrote:Rufflig, who's scum?
SerraPaladin
Why aren't you voting?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:55 am
by BBmolla
OH

From what I know about my few times playing Xylbot, I would doubt Mafia Ally knew the mafiaers and vice versa.

Not 100%.

I really think Syr is the right lynch here Tierce

Voided is mildly town

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:56 am
by BBmolla
I really can't explain my lack of interest in this game, I think it has to do with frustration of not knowing how exactly mechanics work and the mod refusing to answer questions about them.