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In post 847, Wisdom wrote:

In post 846, Majiffy wrote:Wisdom are you scumreading me, and if so, why? Also when did this start?

I'm feeling you're not reading the game.

And I have a feeling you're dodging a pretty straightforward question.

I found it scummy when you dropped your Grimgroove scumread, a scumread that made you challenge him, in order to vote the bigger wagon.
Other than that I've found you town.
I've said all of this before.

I found it scummy when you dropped your Venmar scumread, randomly.

LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH.

@Majiffy - Wisdom is scum, join me or I will re-sing my rebeca black parody of Wisdom.

In post 851, Wisdom wrote:I found it scummy when you dropped your Grimgroove scumread, a scumread that made you challenge him, in order to vote the bigger wagon.
Other than that I've found you town.
I've said all of this before.

You realize that when I issued the challenge I stated a scumread on both players, yes?

And you accuse of not reading.

I do realize that, but you voted Grim, so you can obviously scumread him more.

VOTE: Venmar

Way behind, catching up tonight :/

Actually UNVOTE: , VOTE: Nobody Special

In post 854, Wisdom wrote:I do realize that, but you voted Grim, so you can obviously scumread him more.

I have already argued why this fucking point is wrong a hundred times fuck off.

In post 787, Amrun wrote:Wait how many are there?

I thought there were like 2.

I don't think anyone should be hasty about actually lynching -- but it's clear where my preference lies so I didn't see the point in not voting.

Didn't you do this yesterday, too? And then hammer?

In post 787, Amrun wrote:Wait how many are there?

I thought there were like 2.

I don't think anyone should be hasty about actually lynching -- but it's clear where my preference lies so I didn't see the point in not voting.

Didn't you do this yesterday, too? And then hammer?

I'm caught up, but my brain is truly fried. I have little idea who could be scum, except perhaps Majiffy.

In post 860, Nobody Special wrote:I'm caught up, but my brain is truly fried. I have little idea who could be scum, except perhaps Majiffy.

Then your brain is truly fried, indeed.

In post 858, Nobody Special wrote:

In post 787, Amrun wrote:Wait how many are there?

I thought there were like 2.

I don't think anyone should be hasty about actually lynching -- but it's clear where my preference lies so I didn't see the point in not voting.

Didn't you do this yesterday, too? And then hammer?

Yes, quite a while later. And no one was interested in why I said that, or in anything relevant to who was on the lynch block. If the content being generated isn't relevant to someone who may potentially flip, or won't lead to a flip, then we're just spinning wheels and that's what was happening. In that situation, a flip can help. But really, no one but strangercoug had the support at all so I realized there was no point anymore. Hammers had been threatened several times already and I wanted to see some sort of flip to try and re-align ourselves into a more useful position.

And then we had insta-challenge. So plan failed essentially.

@Grim
You said "AP has been wrong all game." Can you show where he's wrong?

Anything he said about me was wrong.

^^ what was that unvote grim.

I unvoted Wisdom. It's actually based on an argument I read somewhere else but that I alo believe in: someone who is convinced about his arguments and really believes in them is town, no matter how wrong these arguments.
He really seems to believe in his arguments very strongly. He makes a stance and barely budges. He's known for tunneling, for being stubborn, at least as town. I don't know his scum meta, but the fact that his points against me don't make any sense at all don't make him scum. And the fact he keeps defending and blieving them makes him lean town.

The only thing I fear is that he's cashing in on my being wrong about StrangerCoug. If he's scum, he'd know all along I'd be wrong and plan to use that against me, and use my own doubts against me after Strangercoug's flip.

I think I joined this pro-game way too early in my MafiaScum-proces. I'm at a complete loss.

The only thing I'm convinced of, both through gut and brain: pirate_mollie is town.

I think I'll just be sheeping her. I'm guessing she's pretty good at this game, so yeah, no harm done.

Lol. I find alot of similarities btw this and her scum meta.

But it isnt saying alot since I only played with wisdom scum.

If I'm voting Wisdom again it will be because of his post 600 and pirate_mollie stating somewhere in the beginning of the game that Wisdom's arguments tend to make much less sense when he's scum.

I just need to check a finished game I had with him to see if he also made truly silly arguments there. He definitely tunneled as town, but I don't remember the silly arguments.

In post 867, Grimgroove wrote:I unvoted Wisdom. It's actually based on an argument I read somewhere else but that I alo believe in: someone who is convinced about his arguments and really believes in them is town, no matter how wrong these arguments.
He really seems to believe in his arguments very strongly. He makes a stance and barely budges. He's known for tunneling, for being stubborn, at least as town. I don't know his scum meta, but the fact that his points against me don't make any sense at all don't make him scum. And the fact he keeps defending and blieving them makes him lean town.

That's a pretty bad reason to townread me. I believe in my arguments very strongly regardless of alignment.
Also my points make perfect sense to me.

How can you possibly believe in your arguments as scum? You KNOW they're bullshit, so how do you believe in them then?

Well, at least I give the impression I believe them. But you would hardly tell the difference.

The more I think about it, the more post 600 makes you town actually. I don't think scum would consciously try to use this as an argument thinking it would work, so I see it as town blurting out hypotheses without a filter. Posting without such a filter is actually very townish.

That's better.

So, what you said about AP; do you think that "being wrong" was scummy? And what exactly was he wrong about?