Mini 1496: The Cash Cabd (Game Over)

[Sound of Silence]

um... i explicitly said i thought it was likely a kill based on trying to snipe a PR. mostly because i can't think of any other reason he'd have been killed by anyone over other candidates.

Hmm. Maybe I was projecting/extending when I read your post and attributed some of my thought process to you. My first thought was PR hunting though I didn't see anything that yelled PR in his play. My second thought was vig. If it was a vig then I'm eventually going to yell at them about it. And my third thought was that it was a pretty safe kill for an SK who doesn't want to run into a protection or wind up shooting the same player as scum.

[notscience]

I'll provide a formal case for titus later tonight.

[Rail Tracer]

@sos,

if i were to start a wagon on nati, would you help me lynch him?

[Sound of Silence]

@sos,

if i were to start a wagon on nati, would you help me lynch him?

Maybe. I want to read through and think about some games where he came under pressure. I've been lazy about re-meta-ing in this game, but my number of active games is relatively low right now and I have time for some research projects.

(I know, meta, but still)

[Sound of Silence]

Yep, I knew you wouldn't like me townreading you here. But for whatever reason you feel townier to me this game. That and you actually being town in 527 despite all my paranoia causes me to feel less of it here.

I think we've been less obvtown in this game than in that one. This has been a more difficult game to get stuck into, and we've (specifically I've) had a couple of ragged re-entries.

[Cephrir]

I disagree

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ProHawk]

mmm... re-reading Rebels attacks on Dan, I might be wrong about him being scum.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Brian

Rail, which reads specifically would you like? All of them?

[Cephrir]

Is there any reason not to just give all of them anyway?

[ProHawk]

I generally don't like to make a comprehensive read-post, mostly to keep some cards close to my chest.

[ProHawk]

I will say that I am not liking NotScience for scum. I have picked him out as scum before, and this isn't anything close to that. Also, he has admitted to changing his normal playstyle, which would be a risky move for someone who has drawn scum to up-and-change.

[Brian Skies]

@brian

is there a reason you're not voting titus?

Not really. I tend to not vote or move my vote when I should. I can vote her anytime, but it's not like there is a lack of discussion going on.

Also, Mantis claims she is sure titus is town and I have limited experience playing with titus.

How confident are you on your Nati-wagon? I haven't liked that slot all game. I feel like there should be some glimpse of town-Saki in his actions, but I'm not seeing anything like that this game.

[Cephrir]

At the risk of sounding like Scumrir, why isn't Mario dead yet?

Seriously, can anyone honestly answer that question?

[Sound of Silence]

@Cabd has Mario been prodded? If not, can he be?

[Rebel Without a Pulse]

Ran out of time while making the rounds. When I return, I will be drunk.

[artemiskitty]

Anyone else feeling Brian scum?

Oh, that's how you get lynched today. Shit like this. Okay.

Well its ironic that Rail Tracer has been accusing HP of hiding behind the hydra discussion when the attempts at scumhunting are there and the only reason HP keeps talking about hydras is because Rail Tracer keeps bringing them up. Makes sense? Also, what is iioa?

Ik Brian, whats problematic here is that you initially didnt say anything about his hydra statement until people said they didnt agree with some of it, your post agreeing to a part of it looks like it supports the whole statement.

Idk what it is, but I feel like notscience is too agreeable here, Im getting a light scum read on his slot. I dont like his attack on kitty by saying that they have 14 posts, ergo they must be scum.
I think he may have a point about Dessew but Im having a gut scum read on him.

Scumreading ns? Really? v.v

why did you ask this last question of DB, when you know he was lynched?

[artemiskitty]

Wow, you're totally right, I didn't mention him much at all. A large part of it is that FuDuzn was scum and Titus has done roughly nothing.

but the last thing you did say about fuz was

Humble, or I could be town frustrated that I am being scum read for something I don't understand how it could possibly be scummy.

If you want lunch me than get it over with, I am used to micro games where losing one townie makes a big difference, losing me probably won't matter much here. And then you can all focus on actual scummy players.

Not sure what to make of this overreaction. Could be town.

[Cephrir]

I am aware of that. Just because I say someone could be town once doesn't mean I think they are town, it just means I have doubts.

I generally have doubts.

@864: It wasn't a real question.

[artemiskitty]

Alright, sure, Muffin. I'm not known for my verbosity, but I'll try to flesh out my thoughts.

So, my scum reads right now. Notscience, Mario, kind of Brian Skies. Mario is for the lack of, well, anything this game--if we don't deal with him, at the current rate he will get a free trip to LyLo. Don't like that one bit.

Brian Skies is mostly POE(shitty, I know), but I like SoS, you, kitty, nacho, Cephrir. That leaves Titus and Pro hawk as other choices--for Prohawk its too early to say. I didn't pay close attention to HC or mogamma, but other apparently have them as town read which is points in their favor and Titus, well, I think I already explained that its pretty much pure gut on her--the fact notscience is voting her is points in her favor too. Brian Skies...I had him in my top town reads upon entering the game, but I feel as time's gone on, he's slowly moved into the background. You can only use 'catching up' as an excuse for so long. I initially had him up there also because he came off as friendly--I know I've mentioned this to others before, but I tend to let thongs like that cloud my judgment.

So, notscience...where to start with this guy. So, town ns is a hugely rash entity. He likes to misuse terms like 'confbias', calls himself obvtown, and typically acts like a shot/mildly scummy. In hardboiled, he outright stated he does that on purpose(side note: my actions vs ns that game were 100% legit and I would have done the same exact thing as town to prove a point). This game, however, his posts have no sense of recklessness to them. It all feels calculated. I understand he is trying to work on his skills, but this drastic a change(literally one game)...is odd to me. Moreover, I don't think he has taken a strong stance on fucking anybody all game--he cheerleadered the DB wagon from the sidelines(626), his entry post is a waffle stack. I guess I should rephrase--he took a strong stance on Titus, who as I mentioned I'm townreading. Not only that, but he had fuduzn among his strongest town reads at one point, but later recharacterizes him as 'mostly posting fluff'. It just doesn't make sense...there is no indication of his movement from Strong Town to Strong Scum. The 'amished' this is fucking stupid. He also was pushing for a Dessew lynch at one point(minor ding in his direction).

i'm not liking his stance on Titus either. and he was asking too many people what they thought about Dessew, it seemed to me

[artemiskitty]

I am aware of that. Just because I say someone could be town once doesn't mean I think they are town, it just means I have doubts.

I generally have doubts.

@864: It wasn't a real question.

i guess because you said "fuz was scum" that it sounded something of certain... not one with doubts

[artemiskitty]

Mario's Day 1 activity is scummy, but I still think it's just regular apathy. End of Day 1 just looks like lost town, and I would know (speaking from experience).

it was mario's first post that i liked. it read like he was just speaking whatever came to his mind (he apologized at one point in it, for being disjointed) -- which, i would imagine to come from more of a town perspective. and i kinda liked what seemed to be certainty on his part, with his HC vote.

[artemiskitty]

also why are you townreading ceph?

yea, that's a little questionable

[Rail Tracer]

I generally don't like to make a comprehensive read-post, mostly to keep some cards close to my chest.

don't do that, please. i can honestly not think of a good reason not to give your entire thoughts on the game.

i'm not asking you to go into great detail on your town reads or anything if you don't want to, but at the very least go into some detail on all your scum reads, and state your other reads.

How confident are you on your Nati-wagon?

very. i'm thinking {cephrir, ak, sos, rwap, brian} town (sort of in --> order of confidence, but these are mostly interchangeable - i don't really have a "strongest" town read at the moment). of the rest of the playerlist, i'm thinking ns is the least likely to be scum but i'm not willing to put him in my town list. that leaves me with {prohawk, titus, mario, natirasha} (also sort of in order, with natirasha as the most likely scum).

At the risk of sounding like Scumrir, why isn't Mario dead yet?

Seriously, can anyone honestly answer that question?

ah, the benefits of being a lurky fuck. you largely get ignored over active players who are "suspicious".

mario isn't a bad lynch, i'd prefer nati today, though.

Vote: Natirasha

[artemiskitty]

i think brian skies is town. remind me to talk about why #811 was almost certainly a town post at some point later on today.

[artemiskitty]

@brian

is there a reason you're not voting titus?

Not really. I tend to not vote or move my vote when I should. I can vote her anytime, but it's not like there is a lack of discussion going on.

Also, Mantis claims she is sure titus is town and I have limited experience playing with titus.

i dunno, it was fuz's appeal to emotion. it just read as very town. i've played one game with fuz when he was town. so i'll skim that old game again, to see or confirm.

[Mario and the Diamonds]

@Mod: Should've asked earlier, but please sub me out. Uni is eating up way too much of my life, and so I have to give up some mafia time right now. Sorry.