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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:43 am

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Why do you refuse to vote them? You'd rather lynch me and guarantee a town loss? Frankly, you're not making any sense.
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:11 am

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Ok, I'm going to bed.

TS: If you're scum then well played and all, but I'd appreciate it if you'd stop stringing me along with the idea that there's still a way for the town to win this game. I've got better things to do than fight battles that I can't possibly win.

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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:19 am

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Are nerds sometimes rainbow colored, by any chance?

Stewie, TS is right. Please, drop the hammer.
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:26 am

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Actually EDBP -- TS, what kind of mint are you again?
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:32 am

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mneme wrote:Are nerds sometimes rainbow colored, by any chance?
Yes, but unlike M&M's, they are solid sugar, they are not "sugar-coated."
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:34 am

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And erg0, I can assure you of several things:

I am not an SK.
I have never killed (this game).
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:36 am

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English Mints...

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 284#779284
I wrote:Why do I have to be the most boring candy? I wish I were M&M's - with peanuts.
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:36 am

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mneme wrote:I have never killed (this game).
I know that is a fact.
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:19 am

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Based on what?

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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:25 am

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Toaster Strudel wrote:English Mints...

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 284#779284
I wrote:Why do I have to be the most boring candy? I wish I were M&M's - with peanuts.
Yes, I already saw that. I don't know why this game is still going if you and mneme are scum as you're implying.
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:08 am

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Erg0: because as described earlier, this game is designed such that the scum don't know one another at start of game.

I've never contacted TS or vice versa (nor Stewie), so while I'm pretty sure both of them are scum with me, it's theoretically possible for us to kill one another (or rather, if TS is implying what I think he is, for him to kill off the rest of us one by one, not realizing that we're all scum together). He could even do this in a way that let you draw with us, though it's not very likely, particularly given that last night's results seemed to imply that one of the RRS was NK-immune.
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:17 am

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Well if Stewie is my equivalent then he's still a townie. Is the same true for you?
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:32 am

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Vote: Toaster Strudel
, since she's all but confirmed that she's scum.

mneme and Stewie: if you're both townies then I expect you to abide by the win condition in your role PMs and win this game for the town by voting for TS. If one or both of you are actually goon(s) that haven't been "found" yet then just come out and say it. There's no need to be secretive at this point, it's not like I can do anything about it.

Frankly, I'd have preferred that you just ignored me than give me false hope that I could make an argument to sway this game in the town's favour.
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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:51 am

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Erg0: no, no. I'm scum. Thought I was being pretty clear here.

I'd guess based on the fact that Stewie didn't vote for you, that if you're telling the truth (ie, that you're a CBS recruitable "townie") that he's your opposite number.

Anyways, we need to hear from Stewie. If he's not going to help us lynch you, we can go "no lynch", and finish this business at night (I recruit TS, he kills erg0).
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:54 am

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er, I mean "she kills erg0". Sorry, TS; gender issues.
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:57 am

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Well that resolves that. I'm guessing that the lack of kill from CTD last night is because the goon doesn't have a kill power?
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:59 am

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Incidentally, mneme: it's only two votes for a no lynch. If what you say is true then you and TS can just take that option.
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:06 am

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Erg0 wrote:Well that resolves that. I'm guessing that the lack of kill from CTD last night is because the goon doesn't have a kill power?
NK-immunity, which I believe JDodge also possessed (logically, I have not tested it).
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:07 am

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Actually, there's one more thing I want explained: why did JDodge fail to recruit me Night 2?

I don't see why the opposing Godfather would have a blocking power, so is it possible that there are scum that don't know each other and also non-recruitable townies with the same flavour?

Stewie, I fear that we may be screwed here.
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:07 am

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Erg0 wrote:Incidentally, mneme: it's only two votes for a no lynch. If what you say is true then you and TS can just take that option.
I'd rather lynch you today, taking no casualties on my side!
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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:08 am

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You wouldn't take any casualties either way, what's your point?

Also, see above. Stewie may not be recruitable, so you may well have to kill him too.
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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:09 am

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Erg0 wrote:Actually, there's one more thing I want explained: why did JDodge fail to recruit me Night 2?

I don't see why the opposing Godfather would have a blocking power, so is it possible that there are scum that don't know each other and also non-recruitable townies with the same flavour?

Stewie, I fear that we may be screwed here.
Because JDodge had to make choices. He had to choose between finding his buddies, or making a night kill. I am afraid he did not try to recruit you at all. He chose the night kill option.
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:10 am

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Erg0: this is true (that we could force a no-lynch).

The problem is, the correct strategy is different if you and Stewie are scum than if you're both town -- if you're both scum, we still win by forcing a no-lynch, but we take losses.

So it's better to wait to get confirmation from Stewie rather than risk it, at least for a bit.
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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:14 am

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Erg0 wrote:You wouldn't take any casualties either way, what's your point?

Also, see above. Stewie may not be recruitable, so you may well have to kill him too.
I've already sorted that out with the mod. No one needs to be recruited. There is no recruiting. Give up on the recruiting already.

If we lynch the right guy, and it's pretty obvious who the right lynch is for us today, we win, the game is over.
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:14 am

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And yes, I do have a kill. But my guess is that my kill is over-ridden by TS making a kill. I tried to kill erg0 on night 2, but it didn't work, my supposition being that that was why.

Also, rereading my PM, it seems clear that the "recruitment" power isn't recruitment at all; it's "contacting". So if there are non-scum CBS and RRS, they're just red herrings, thus the "careful, others may be looking for X" (yes, that's real) that JDodge quoted.
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