↑Boonskiies wrote:I don't think Ankamius is scum. I don't think he would be opposing my lynch if he was. Too easy to mislynch me without repercussions at this point.
Also I hate this post.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:44 pm
by Ankamius
↑Boonskiies wrote:I don't think Ankamius is scum. I don't think he would be opposing my lynch if he was. Too easy to mislynch me without repercussions at this point.
From town, this vote with no accompanying push makes zero sense.
How would your interaction with anka have been different if you're both scum?
You do realize we've been telegraphing this vote for days, right? I know you think the way bassists replaced out looked town. We don't agree with you about that.
Though I'm giving serious consideration to moving to boonskiis if AP is good with that.
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:45 pm
by Medea the Alien
...so I've lacked the time/energy to do anything this day phase; my apologies. My take from reading up (I'll try to keep it to the point but can elaborate if/as requested)
LynchMePls --> Goblin: Town read off early game, given LMP was voicing my gut reaction thoughts to Riddleton
Antihero: I'm lousy at reading Antihero off the bat, although I lack a strong read on him either way right now.
Anatole Kuragin: I think he's getting a pass for remarkably low content in relation to the strength of the reads expressed on him. Not an active scum read, but hell if I know why anyone's rallying to the 'call him town' banner.
GreyICE--I felt like he was being rather non-committal during the early part of the day phase, but that turned around in a hurry. Town enough that I want to see how he progresses from here. Townish read here too for reasons that he'd yell about, so I'll spare the shouty fallout.
Egg--giving me zero reason to town-read him, which given most of the play here would be enough to make him a prime rope candidate. I can't remember reading anything from him that screamed town. His 724 has an odd focus, like he's pulling on thin strings and ignoring interaction that would require him to take a useful stance. Voting a player that just replaced out on that strength of read seems like a delaying tactic.
Serrapaladin--Town IC, um, duh.
HypotheticalBassists (Mathdino + Gangsta_duck41) --> Ankamius--Loathed their (HB) entry but since then they've been reasonably townish. Wouldn't cry to see them dead, but not in my scum pile. Ankamius doesn't thrill me for some content, but nothing I'd push for a lynch over; townish read holds.
Boonskiies: I...really don't like any of his content. Especially the interaction with Istott around places like 617 and on. Not actually a lurker lynch for me.
Istott--scummy; hate posts like 331, would happily have pushed for his lynch if I'd been active before this.
Murder of Crows (AngryPidgeon + Fferyllt)--niggling bad feelings, but I'm kind of back and forth here from one post to the next. Another one where I'd rather see what develops than lynch today. The major posts make me think town, the minor ones read scum, if that makes any sense?
ArcAngel9 --> Mikuru--Town as hell off AA9's play; even before replace-out would not support lynching here. Replacement player is town as hell too.
Riddleton --> Yoncé--Like LMP, an early town read for thought patterns early game. Yonce, eh, w/e.
Seeing as we're effectively down to lynching from {Murder of Crows, Antihero, Boonskiies} I'm most comfortable lynching Boonskiies. Cabd still thinks Antihero is underperforming for his town game but is willing to let my weakish read on Boonskiies overrule his weak read on Antihero for today.
VOTE: Istott because damn, I can't not vote that scum read for at least a sec.
VOTE: Boonskiies as my preferred lynch of that set.
I'll be up for another hour or so and will check in before going to work tomorrow (before 7 AM Central time).
--PA, who will try to sign FWIW
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:25 am
by Murder of Crows
PA, can you point out 2-3 posts of ours you think feel scummy and 2-3 that feel town?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:30 am
by eyestott
PA, what do you hate about 331 so much it's the only reason you've not only voted me, but said you would push for my lynch?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:06 am
by Murder of Crows
VOTE: Boonskies
Because deadlines and crap.
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Let me answer for PA. In 331 you sort of excuse yourself from posting content preemptively by complaining that you are just going to get bashed for posting it. Also you commenting (again?) on the number of posts looks like you are buddying up to people in general over that and greyICE specifically.
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:38 am
by Medea the Alien
^ what whichever head this is said. Although that was just one of several scummy as hell posts from you. But since your lynch isn't feasible for today, my suspicion on record is about all I can do.
One sec while I go grab post numbers that made me swing back and forth, MoC
--PA
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:46 am
by eyestott
Oh i see! I keep being scumread in games for being "too nice", and trying to avoid conflict (a less common one), but, it's just a personality trait of mine. Now then, I don't like the Murder lynch, but I feel that Boonskies would be a fine lynch. He hasn't really been all that helpful, and we have no guarantee he will be any more helpful and less lucky in upcoming days. Plus, there's the whole making no sense with his ankh its read, so I'll be voting Boonskies, however, I'm not sure how many votes he has on him. I don't want to hammer him before a reveal, so can someone tell me if he's at L-1 or not?
↑Egg wrote:And why does Arc's replace out confirm that slot?
Its just the way she replaced out. Look at the emotional implications behind everything she did. If she was scum, she was blatantly using emotions and replacing out to look town on her way out, which is sort of low and I ultimately doubt she would do. At the least, its unlikely. What makes a lot more sense is that she was town, got pissed off that people couldn't see that, and then replaced out because she was so mad about that. I guess it helps to know AA9 a bit (not sure if you do), but everything in my intuition tells me this is most likely townrage.
Town
↑Murder of Crows wrote:Scum want people to keep voting for townies.
I never said your post was 'too town to be town'. I said that I don't see why YOU are interested in having Serra be more verbose. OBJECTIVELY, it makes sense for town to want what you are asking for. Despite that, *I* don't trust Serra. I don't care if he is confirmed town, that doesn't make him good at the game. In fact, his voting record is strongly implying the opposite. I just have a hard time seeing what inspired YOU to make that post. I can see scum making that post in order to 'look town'. You yourself seem to subconsciously accept my statement that your post looks town-motivated. What I have a hard time seeing, is a townie who respects Serra's judgement more than his own to the point that he asks a really generic thing of him. This just seems awkward.
Also there isn't much to say about egg. He's posted a passable amount of content. None of it gives me town feels. Ffery also doesn't get town ffeels from him. Some people will say that doesn't make someone scummy but imo it's a damn good start.
↑istott wrote:What do you mean by "make sense"? Do you mean gramatically? What I agree with?
Grammar we'll probably just have to give up on. That you agree with isn't necessary. Just everything in it that resembles a logical and coherent thought.
I'm curious what protown reason there is to have istott do this busy work.
Scum
↑Murder of Crows wrote:AP here. I still need to catch up and sync but I read ffery s posts. I don't think Anatole town slipped but his interactions with ffery over it seem townish.
↑serrapaladin wrote:medea and murder are weird. lmp, egg, istott, bassist, arc look early town.
i really wanna say murder are scum.
Go right ahead.
Scum vibes
↑Murder of Crows wrote:Ok, so LMP looks a bit scummy. The only thing giving me pause is his assertion that AH is flailing (which he isn't, but thats irrelevant to the thought).
If LMP flips scum, I might be a bit suspicious of AH.
Scum
As examples. I remember other stuff pinging in context both ways, but I lack the pre-work time to find it.
--PA
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:01 am
by Murder of Crows
I was curious if your townposts were coming from one of us and your scumposts were coming from the other.
That appears to be the case.
What's odd, though, is that other people who are apparently scumreading one of us have mostly gone after the other head.
Not sure what that means, but I'm throwing it into the thread for tomorrow.++
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:50 am
by Antihero
how much shit am i allowed to give everyone post game when goblin and egg flip scum?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:04 am
by Antihero
also, if cabd could plz outline the meta case against me a little more that would be great
plzthnxia
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:11 am
by serrapaladin
On phone, does anyone know vc and DL? Will vote boon if anti won't happen. Happy to leave murder alive as long as cabd, hoopla et all are around to check them.
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:36 am
by Murder of Crows
↑Antihero wrote:how much shit am i allowed to give everyone post game when goblin and egg flip scum?
For Goblin? Some. For Egg? Not much. I don't think anyone is actually townreading him as far as I can remember.
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:05 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Sorry for the absence. Trying to catch up but I'm at a new job and don't know with what frequency I'll be able to post from now on.
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:05 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Does anyone have a vote count on the leading wagons off the noggin?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:10 am
by Bulbazak
Making a note of Eyestott replacing Istott. Official documents and all that. Here's a VC for your trouble: