Blitz 4: Kingmaker (game over)


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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:51 am

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Heros are pretty useless imo.
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:52 am

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It literally just rewards bad play. The only time it's useful is if you fuck up and kingmake scum.
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:52 am

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BBmolla wrote:Heros are pretty useless imo.

They are only useful if scum get king and put some fear for when they do a execute, but even that is weak.

Yes, I agree Hero is pretty stupid "power role"
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:54 am

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Probably going to stay away from any king maker games in future, the game mode is pretty terrible, even though I like some of the ideas.

It just doesn't work.
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:55 am

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It works fine when people are engaged and they arent allowed to lurk and people dont forgive blatent scumslips
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:56 am

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Now, if you were scum who drew one of two assassain cards, would you call an 11p game fair?
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:57 am

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pisskop wrote:Now, if you were scum who drew one of two assassain cards, would you call an 11p game fair?

I would rather have it be a Neutral Traitor scum.

Having 3 scum who know each other, is WAY TOO STRONG.
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:59 am

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pisskop wrote:It works fine when people are engaged and they arent allowed to lurk and people dont forgive blatent scumslips

Scum don't always lurk. Town do so too.

I made a 'scum slip' and I was town, so really they aren't a 100% reliable.

I have played this before and the scum didn't lurk and the town lurked, and I played horribly in that too.

This game type is just not fun, and Its really not your fault for that pisskop.

The gametype is just AWFUL.

I gave it a second try, done with it now.
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:00 am

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pisskop wrote:Now, if you were scum who drew one of two assassain cards, would you call an 11p game fair?

Yes.
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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:00 am

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To be completely real, the correct balance for 11p is 2 scum, 1 traitor.
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:01 am

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Firebringer wrote:
pisskop wrote:It works fine when people are engaged and they arent allowed to lurk and people dont forgive blatent scumslips

Scum don't always lurk. Town do so too.

I made a 'scum slip' and I was town, so really they aren't a 100% reliable.

I have played this before and the scum didn't lurk and the town lurked, and I played horribly in that too.

This game type is just not fun, and Its really not your fault for that pisskop.

The gametype is just AWFUL.

I gave it a second try, done with it now.

I advise Popcorn Mafia, it's basically Kingmaker but way way way better.
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:02 am

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Oh, so now the RNG is to blame?

Pedit: Sure, its not only scum who does these things. But Im not the one implying it is.

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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:04 am

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Thanks for modding Pisskop anyways.

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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:44 am

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I am ok w/ my reads this game.

At least in the dead chat
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:46 am

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Titus why did you think I was Hero?

I thought I was just being my normal self lol

I guess I did try to egg you on to execute me because I thought you were scum but I don't think I would have been too different as not the hero
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:49 am

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I honestly should have replaced out, I accidentally had something that might have been affecting my judgement.
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:24 pm

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Kingmaker still more fun on xylbot, and still my favorite xylbot setup. Having finals on the way didn't really help my cause, also i lol'd at dom asking me to show him that i was town considering he failed at that himself since he got executed.

On another note, it's interesting that both town kings hit heroes, but the scum queen hit vanilla.
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:25 pm

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I could not vanquish Scumkara this time :(
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:25 pm

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Scumkura* FUCK
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:37 pm

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Town played really well on flower view, not to mention i had 2 partners that did fuck all and one i accidentally bus'd.
Here i was the one doing fuck all due to busy RL, but i still managed to get another perfect scum win.

You managed to catch on to me pretty easily, i'll know to be more wary of you in the future when im scum :P
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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:45 pm

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Sakura Hana wrote:Town played really well on flower view, not to mention i had 2 partners that did fuck all and one i accidentally bus'd.
Here i was the one doing fuck all due to busy RL, but i still managed to get another perfect scum win.

You managed to catch on to me pretty easily, i'll know to be more wary of you in the future when im scum :P

It goes to show, Lurking pays off!

:P

No but really, it kinda does.
Either town has to PL you, or just lynch between active townies usually.
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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:08 pm

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Eh
2/3
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:09 pm

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beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:11 pm

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It's funny that Dom thought i was busing FB, when in reality i was just fueling the mislynch. I don't bus, remember that, notice both of my scumpartners were my least 2 likely to be scum reads at the end.
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:20 pm

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Well done, scum.

Thanks for modding, Pisskop.

I'd never played Kingmaker before, and probably won't again, not because of any balance issue, but because it felt like I was useless, superfluous to the game. At least in a normal game I have a vote that counts for something.
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