I agree that scum!HS, assuming they actually didn't notice the softclaim, would have no motivation to push a Creeps PL if TF is town.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:37 am
by Road Kamelot
In post 847, MortFeld wrote:After that post HS is looking town with a number of anti-town actions. Gonna set down the game and look at it again later.
Pedit: @Road, what type of reaction were you looking for?
In post 779, MortFeld wrote:That should cover it. Creeps has made a large number of weird scumposts but they are so bad that I personally am treating them as NAI for now. Also, pressuring Creeps tends to do nothing unless you vote him, then he scumreads you.
I was gonna get on your case for that HS post i quoted bc none of that is scummy but
i guess youve got your radar screwed on straight after all so i no longer have beef w u
Pedit that doesnt really make sense with your second point in there
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:38 am
by Road Kamelot
In post 849, MortFeld wrote:-Granted, even if this is explained, there are a number of other issues with the play. Also, the scum case makes way more sense than the town still. Creeps had softclaimed (though you claim to not have noticed and I kind of believe you?), Creeps is nowhere near a reasonable PL in my mind (he's new and bad, but he's not ruining the game. There are 3 scum), and you then voted TF 'once a policy lynch became inevitable.' Huh? You thought TF was town. Why would you ever vote a townie? And your vote took it to L-2, I'd hardly call L-3 inevitable but L-2 is getting there.
Reading when i get the chance. Dont like the pushes ive seen so far but we'll see
I could be wrong on Twoface but im really sure HS is town and that claim post should be all the evidence needed
Unvote and push something else
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:50 am
by MortFeld
I agree with that, for now.
UNVOTE: HS
Wondering whether it's better to get a wagon on TB so he decides to pretend to play this game, or if I'd rather vote Wobbu. Misa/Road slot looking slightly better except for the aversion to reading.
VOTE: TB
I still don't understand your Creeps reaction test. Like what types of reaction from me would have been alignment indicative? Asking more because it's my second game and the concept of reaction tests is something I don't really understand yet.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:51 am
by MortFeld
Er, Mort reaction test via voting Creeps.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:59 am
by Drone
Miraculously HS reads TF town, joins his wagon, but tries to create pl lynch on Creeps?
What other things you've been thinking Mort?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:08 am
by MortFeld
Huh? That's what happened. Not sure what the implication is.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:39 am
by Toto
The VT claim and the reads look genuine to me. I'm having second thoughts. UNVOTE: HS
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:47 am
by Naomi-Tan
In post 860, Toto wrote:The VT claim and the reads look genuine to me. I'm having second thoughts. UNVOTE: HS
shouldn't you find the easy claim more suspicious? could you expand a bit more here?
In post 860, Toto wrote:The VT claim and the reads look genuine to me. I'm having second thoughts. UNVOTE: HS
shouldn't you find the easy claim more suspicious? could you expand a bit more here?
You mean the VT claim? I think scum!HS would have claimed a PR in this situation if he really just wanted to stay alive. The way they presented the reads and the claim look more like they are actually trying to help town.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:57 am
by Drone
In post 859, MortFeld wrote:Huh? That's what happened. Not sure what the implication is.
I'm implying that this inconsistency is just the reason to vote HS.
In post 860, Toto wrote:The VT claim and the reads look genuine to me. I'm having second thoughts. UNVOTE: HS
shouldn't you find the easy claim more suspicious? could you expand a bit more here?
They should. I'll be waiting too.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:58 am
by Drone
Saw it at pedit, still posted.
Don't like the answer.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:05 am
by MortFeld
I did vote HS. When I get to my computer I'll take a second look at the claim. One thought I'm having is that Road never explained her TR on HS actually. I'm very much lacking confidence in my own abilities but in retrospect I had no reason to unvote on her prompting.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:07 am
by Toto
Well I don't know what else you want me to say. They were role fishing, they could have claimed some investigative role or something to back up that behavior. Instead they claimed VT. I may still be wrong but I have a gut feeling that HS is town after that post.
I'm not lynching people when I think they are town.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:08 am
by MortFeld
HS' claim did feel town to me independently of Roads comments but ATM that's just gut, I'd need to a analyze it more to articulate why I have that gut read
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:13 am
by Drone
Why on earth would a VT ROLEFISH!? You guys kidding!?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:16 am
by MortFeld
Because they're bad?
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:18 am
by Drone
Because they are scum!
A VT has ultimately no reason to rolefish! Moreover, HS is NOT a bad player alright?
It's as clear as a scum slip and I really can't BELIEVE you just bought that!
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:19 am
by Drone
I'm now getting the feeling that Mort is utterly confused and misguided. And Toto is HS's scumbuddy.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:20 am
by MortFeld
I wouldn't say confused and misguided, just easily swayed. e.g. I thought you were definitely scum in newbie 1748. Let me think on it, I'm a little mired in WIFOM right now.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:23 am
by Drone
First of all don't talk about ongoing games ever again, for your own good.
Second, don't EVER meta read me. Read my wiki for further reading.
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:25 am
by MortFeld
Oh, my bad. Didn't think it mattered since you were dead.