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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:38 am
by stungun0404
if anything, i volunteer us to policy lynch gif simply for the way he’s acting...
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:39 am
by stungun0404
and yes, i still think he flips scum
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:39 am
by profii
In post 843, GirlInFreezer wrote:if you're town and saying that 'you do not think that i am all that town' then you are still acknowledging that I am towny and choosing to ignore it for whatever policy shit you're bringing into this game
you're sure enough that I'm town to trade your life on my townflip and also to be ignored when you inevitably claim jailkeeper to out the town one, be our guest.
Find me one ISO where someone was exclusively towny or scummy
Everyone does something that someone will perceive to be slightly scummy and towny in the course of any game day
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:41 am
by GirlInFreezer
just take your free win with dignity profii
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:41 am
by profii
In post 843, GirlInFreezer wrote:if you're town and saying that 'you do not think that i am all that town' then you are still acknowledging that I am towny and choosing to ignore it for whatever policy shit you're bringing into this game
you're sure enough that I'm town to trade your life on my townflip and also to be ignored when you inevitably claim jailkeeper to out the town one, be our guest.
Actually this is scummy
This infers you are not the JK
You should know better than to narrow down the JK hunt
You did it anyway
Ergo, this is a scummy post
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:43 am
by GirlInFreezer
hardclaim not JK
just take your free win with dignity profii
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:44 am
by profii
Yeah we are saying you’re scum, you’re obviously not the JK
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:49 am
by GirlInFreezer
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:51 am
by stungun0404
@profii, where do you stand on a kokichi lynch? seems more plausible than gif today, as nsg and i are already on it.
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:52 am
by GirlInFreezer
well NSG is gamethrowing then
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:52 am
by GirlInFreezer
she pointed out why profii was obvscum then made some weird comment about creature's reads to not vote them so
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:57 am
by stungun0404
but she has found kokichi scummy, so
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:00 am
by stungun0404
yeah, this has absolutely no town incentive. thus it is likely coming from scum
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:01 am
by northsidegal
wrong
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:04 am
by northsidegal
in retrospect i think it's actually possible that i may have townread creature too easily
i'm not sure what strange world i've come back to where i'm considering the possibility that creature took a scum role pm but i guess that's where i am now
this isn't to say that i actually found something that he said scum-indicative, just that looking at the way i've formed my own reads i may have townread him too easily
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:07 am
by stungun0404
fair, but i also think looking into role pm selections can be a bit of a distraction. point being a). we do not know the options a team got. b). we do not know for sure who picked the role pm they wanted between the two players and c). people could do reverse psychology and choose the role they think others would not think they would want to help their team out
thus, i do not find it a conducive train-of-thought to give into, until at least after we get some flips in the other game going. otherwise, it’s a potential distraction from scumhunting
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:09 am
by northsidegal
i don't want to go too in-depth in rehashing team mafia arguments but to sum it up it turned out that point c basically never happened - it was an extremely reliable heuristic to just go off of what you think people would have preferred.
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:12 am
by northsidegal
anyways, a few things:
1) @shoshin, where are you thinking about voting right now? you've talked a bit about wanting to get rid of scummy lurkers.
2) how many people actually are scumreading profii? from memory i thought it was a lot but looking at the votecounts it doesn't seem like the wagon ever got beyond 1 vote, unless it happened in-between votecounts
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:18 am
by profii
In post 858, stungun0404 wrote:@profii, where do you stand on a kokichi lynch? seems more plausible than gif today, as nsg and i are already on it.
Don’t really see it
In your Aronis case you mention Aronis goes against the grain and scum reads GIF - if you look back at GIF there is also a scum read on Aronis - both early in the game
However. Me and you scum read gif and it’s salty salty - but no salt between those 2 - I think, distancing position for later
See it?
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:25 am
by stungun0404
maybe? but what would be their scum plan? sheeping town players would be incorporated? because both parties have done that.
aronis sheeped me on nsg
gif sheeped shoshin on profii.
gee, i have no idea how that could backfire
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:33 am
by profii
I’m missing your point there - Im being dense?
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:52 am
by stungun0404
i’d rather not think it’s aronis atm, but one thing we do agree on is based off probability: gif is scum
we need more of a consensus effort out of just about everyone in driving a lynch in a particular direction tbch so this day phase does not go down to the wire.
i would vote kokichi, and i would vote gif. where would everyone else vote at this moment?
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:55 am
by stungun0404
4 days and 10 hours until day phase ends
last vote count was
stungun (3): kokichi, nicorobin, gif
aronis (3): shoshin, creature, profii
kokichi (1): nsg
nicorobin (1): stungun
not voting (1): aronis <— do not like seeing no vote for someone right now
i will update this shortly with what has changed since then, to give us a revised vc.
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:59 am
by stungun0404
updated vote count
Aronis (2): Creature, profii
Kokichi Oma (2): northsidegal, stungun0404
stungun0404 (2): NicoRobin, GirlinFreezer
not voting (3): Aronis, Kokichi, Shoshin
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:02 am
by Kokichi Oma
I think I'd lean voting Adonis over stun right now