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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:55 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 848, AnonymousGhost wrote:@Sakura - Can we tell them?
Eh sure.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:56 am
by AnonymousGhost
YAY!

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:57 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 849, Toranaga wrote:
In post 845, Sakura Hana wrote:I dont get the point of that question, but for me it's Kokichi.
trying to pinpoint who you'd vote for leader
I dont think there's a rule saying we have to vote outside the hood however.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:58 am
by AnonymousGhost
We're gonna make a tie in our hood! If there's a tie, the potential town leader gets decided via RNG.

By forcing the leader to be decided via RNG, we're reducing scum's chances of killing the town leader.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:59 am
by Toranaga
that's very good strategy

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:00 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 854, Toranaga wrote:that's very good strategy
Yeah so a 4 way tie makes it 25% chance, but for a 4 way tie, no one from the hood should be lynched today.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:12 am
by Toranaga
moment is one of the hood members, right?

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:13 am
by AnonymousGhost
Yes.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:15 am
by Toranaga
kind of a double edge sword

if there's scum in the hood and one of the possible elects is scum, they just kill the town player and elect themselves

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:51 am
by AnonymousGhost
Maybe.

A
elects
Z

B
elects
Y

C
elects
X

D
elects
Q


C is NK'd.

Leaves
Q
,
Y
, and
Z
to be decided via RNG.

Scum has a 1 out of 3 chance of becoming town leader. Town, obviously, has a 2 out of 3 chances of becoming leader.

Even if we have 2 scum in our hood, they have to publicly vote within our hood. No sleight of hand allowed.

So...

A
elects
Z

B
elects
Y

C
elects
X

D
elects
C


B gets NK'd.

Leaves
Z
,
X
, and
C
in the RNG pool. Scum have a higher chance of winning RNG, but not a complete guarantee.

The problem is if we lynch inside the hood, it could hit town, scum could NK within the hood, making these scenarios happen:

A
elects
Z
. A gets lynched.
B
elects
Y
. B gets NK'd.

1 Scum in Hood =

C
elects
B
.
D
elects
C
.

Result:
50
/
50
chance of either scum or town getting elected.

2 Scum in Hood =
C
elects
X
.
D
elects
C
.

Results:
100% chance of scum getting elected
.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:12 am
by Kokichi Oma
Okay, I'm fine with that plan. Is the person notified if they become leader?

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:13 am
by AnonymousGhost
Yes.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:21 am
by Toranaga
I just skimmed but is this removing the possibility of town electing scum? cause that's what it looks like.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:27 am
by Kokichi Oma
Anon did you ask what happens if Scum gets elected? Also can you ask what happens if it ties between a scum and town. IS it still random or does town automatically receive it?

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:33 am
by AnonymousGhost
@Tora - Clarify? All I see is the probabilities of scum winning the power if a lynch and/or NK happens to the members of the hood.

@Kokichi - I asked that, but didn't receive a straight answer. I can ask again, this time rewording it differently, see if that clarifies some things.

Ties are decided via RNG, I don't think it defaults to one or the other depending on the alignment, but I can ask to make sure all our bases are covered.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:48 am
by AnonymousGhost
No answer to the 'what happens if scum is elected?' question.

Ties are decided
purely
via RNG. No defaults depending on the electoral candidates' alignments.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:57 am
by Kokichi Oma
What does it say regarding the town leader. Does it specifically say Town Leader or does it say Town will receive a leader?

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:02 pm
by AnonymousGhost
The first is closer than the second option, but with a 'the' spruced inside.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:04 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 719, Kokichi Oma wrote:@Dunn what are your reads so far?
I'm starting to think anonyghost is town which has me wary of moment but don't have a strong read there, I'm townreading sakura, I doubt our neighborhood of 4 has 2 scum in it and think us getting the power is a good idea

It asys that we vote for someone to become a town leader

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:05 pm
by Dunnstral
I have popopo a sleaning town, you leaning town, rc/tora leaning town, shinori leaning town. Not much of an opinion on the rest

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:17 pm
by AnonymousGhost
In post 862, Toranaga wrote:I just skimmed but is this removing the possibility of town electing scum? cause that's what it looks like.
Oh! Now I see what you meant!

No, it does not take into account the chances of the town hoodies voting for scum by accident.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:19 pm
by Dunnstral
I'm of the opinion that our hood should just majority vote someone and if the town leader dies that's scum playing their hand and revealing themself to be part of our hood

I don't have a heavy scumread on anyone inside of here

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:21 pm
by AnonymousGhost
is only considering the outcomes based on the variables that scum will vote for scum and town votes for town inside the hood. The chances of scum, obviously, become higher if the town hoodies vote for scum on accident. In other, slightly more positive news, we have to publicly vote for our candidates - meaning that scum can't stack two votes against the others.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:40 pm
by Toranaga
In post 870, AnonymousGhost wrote:
In post 862, Toranaga wrote:I just skimmed but is this removing the possibility of town electing scum? cause that's what it looks like.
Oh! Now I see what you meant!

No, it does not take into account the chances of the town hoodies voting for scum by accident.
yeah it really defeats the purpose then

you can't analyse the odds like that

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:44 pm
by Sakura Hana
Well do you have any better ideas than scum potentially shooting who we vote for, wasting our shot?