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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:10 am

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In post 551, chennisden wrote:
In post 543, Confirmation Bias wrote:You’ve also seen town me a few times now, I believe, so what makes you see that differently?
Looks advantage seeking, if you know what i mean. agenda based.

anyway if you are town kill scum with me.
This is suuuuper aggressive.
:igmeou:

In post 565, OkaPoka wrote:they have lots of talk but i dont see much substance but they speak of it in such a way that implies they have lots of substance behind it so i want to see what im missing

or maybe

they lie
Theyre different pushes. I felt like td was trying to pull out a reaction from nance, purposely pushing them into acting. I was disappointed when nance hard-pushed back; its such a stereotypical tunnel happening from not-much sustenance.

Chen's is kind of crap, td's is kind of towny in tone.
In post 580, mbaki wrote:Chen Dann feels SvS, anybody else? That level of confidence from a player of Chenn's caliber is unwarranted, and feels wrong.
yes.

SvS might be possible. Id expect nothing to come of the push on nance in that case, since chen!scum would want the free tunnel and not to build a wagon.
In post 587, Ankamius wrote:oka's perspective
Im undecided on oka. I dont read oka's view as oppurtunistic. But diggy for info? sure. As scum I like to probe for a good foundation to build a legit-looking case on.
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:12 am

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In post 847, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 545, mbaki wrote:
In post 538, chennisden wrote:the mbaki lynch list is terrible though
What's terrible about it? What names should be on the list that aren't?
In post 403, mbaki wrote:

Code: Select all

OkaPoka
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Shoshin
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor)
Creature***
chennisden
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We are lynching on this list today. No, not being here does not necessarily mean a town read. If you vote off this list I will be irritated.
Well, i feel like theres def some elitism and generally bad implications about this list i could infer. Like am I off this list because Im your likely choice for an 8ball?
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This list is good. It gives us a good way to judge your future actions.
You shouldn’t be on anyone’s list because I think you’re pretty obvtown and we need to lynch who is scum and we can’t wifom scum. Last go round, scum!Momo tainted the well, this time we were fortunate that no one did and because of that, wifomming who is likely the 8 ball is pretty much pointless.

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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:19 am

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In post 594, Confirmation Bias wrote:Are you a Gryffindor?
what does this even mean?
In post 607, Ankamius wrote:cool

well the confbias wagon is unlikely to give us more to work with atm
the nancefloor wagon is not going to give anything useful because worst case, dann is sortable over the long term anyways

who else was being wagoned? I'll show why they're a bad idea and why mine is not in comparison too
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:19 am

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@mbaki
In post 625, mbaki wrote:I thought Chennis was town; he was not on my original lynch list (separate statements). I just dislike his play/style. Honestly, I'm very disappointed at this playerlist, I was much happier with the first one. If I noticed how much it changed I probably would not have stayed in.
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:21 am

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Spoiler: olayerlist from previous game
Subject: Gameshow Mafia (17/17)
BulletNLynchproof wrote:Playerlist:
  1. Shoshin
  2. mbaki
  3. OkaPoka
  4. StarwingBeauvoi
  5. Taly
  6. momo
  7. RadiantCowbells
  8. Wisdom
  9. JohnnyEnglish
  10. Not Known 15
  11. TemporalLich
  12. rosterfoster
  13. Creature
  14. insomnia
  15. Nancy Drew 39
  16. JunkoChan
  17. Baezu
Replacements:
  1. Vedith
Looking for hydra partners:
  1. Flavor Leaf
  2. TemporalLich
  3. 0verki11
  4. Shadowlesscloud
  5. StarwingBeauvoi
  6. JunkoChan
  7. GuyInFreezer
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:22 am

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lol wow thats a pretty solid list.

Look at how flavor is also in this list, btdubs.
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:32 am

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In post 627, OkaPoka wrote:mbaki are you trying to get wagoned
Actually, my impression is that of concise play. Im tempted to write it off as town, but direct scum may be too?
In post 643, Time Devil wrote:Fusco, why you voting me gurl?
pressure vote to sort players. I think this nancefloor explosion is the most happening thing this game thus far.
In post 646, mbaki wrote:I am town, and it is a waste to pursue me right now.
my my my
said the spider to the fly
In post 649, chennisden wrote:Just letting you know, a town mislynch is strictly better than a no-lynch!
what?

VOTE: chen
In post 664, mbaki wrote:We have 4 days. Please relax Chen.

Oka lynch is cool. I
think
Shadow is town, for some pretty garbage reasons.

I am not placing a vote. I will be voting by end of day, do not worry.
This post tells me they arent so uninterested in this game. they have notes and are playing.
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:43 am

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In post 847, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 545, mbaki wrote:
In post 538, chennisden wrote:the mbaki lynch list is terrible though
What's terrible about it? What names should be on the list that aren't?
In post 403, mbaki wrote:

Code: Select all

OkaPoka
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Shoshin
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor)
Creature***
chennisden
Chemist1422
0verki11

We are lynching on this list today. No, not being here does not necessarily mean a town read. If you vote off this list I will be irritated.
Well, i feel like theres def some elitism and generally bad implications about this list i could infer. Like am I off this list because Im your likely choice for an 8ball?
:doc:

This list is good. It gives us a good way to judge your future actions.
No. You specifically are off the list because I think you're town. If we were basing it off my
opinion
of player quality, Creature definitely wouldn't be on that list, and you would probably be on it (no offense), among many other things.
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:44 am

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In post 681, OkaPoka wrote:shadowless
I dont have a read on either shadow or overkill.

lll iso those two after i read up.

In post 722, RadiantCowbells wrote:i have contacted multiple list mods and the game mods.
RC has shitposted this whole game, and i dont like it.

and yes, Im going to consider the whole spat w/flavor as part of a giant shitpost.

In post 756, Creature wrote:Ankle is town
i think so.
But why arent you posting at all?
In post 759, Taly wrote:Creature is not town?
gun to head, Id go here rn.
In post 830, Ankamius wrote:I'll tone back, I'm sorry
Dont be sorry. Its something I have to sort out myself. My playstyle can be . . . in need of improvement. Less shitpostting, less open with my TrainofThought, and more reserved. I come off, i feel, as immature and even juvenille. It grates me because people dont take it seriously until I bust open the game. Take flavor's talk about the recent musicals game. I had solved the better portion of the game but my style and an extended period of nonposting got me quicklynched by unsure town.
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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:45 am

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In post 853, Fuscosco wrote:
@mbaki
In post 625, mbaki wrote:I thought Chennis was town; he was not on my original lynch list (separate statements). I just dislike his play/style. Honestly, I'm very disappointed at this playerlist, I was much happier with the first one. If I noticed how much it changed I probably would not have stayed in.
Do you have an Ank read?
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:45 am

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In post 857, mbaki wrote:(no offense)
busting your stones, amoung other things.
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:45 am

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In post 850, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 551, chennisden wrote:
In post 543, Confirmation Bias wrote:You’ve also seen town me a few times now, I believe, so what makes you see that differently?
Looks advantage seeking, if you know what i mean. agenda based.

anyway if you are town kill scum with me.
This is suuuuper aggressive.
:igmeou:

In post 565, OkaPoka wrote:they have lots of talk but i dont see much substance but they speak of it in such a way that implies they have lots of substance behind it so i want to see what im missing

or maybe

they lie
Theyre different pushes. I felt like td was trying to pull out a reaction from nance, purposely pushing them into acting. I was disappointed when nance hard-pushed back; its such a stereotypical tunnel happening from not-much sustenance.

Chen's is kind of crap, td's is kind of towny in tone.
In post 580, mbaki wrote:Chen Dann feels SvS, anybody else? That level of confidence from a player of Chenn's caliber is unwarranted, and feels wrong.
yes.

SvS might be possible. Id expect nothing to come of the push on nance in that case, since chen!scum would want the free tunnel and not to build a wagon.
In post 587, Ankamius wrote:oka's perspective
Im undecided on oka. I dont read oka's view as oppurtunistic. But diggy for info? sure. As scum I like to probe for a good foundation to build a legit-looking case on.
How was TD trying to pull out reactions from us? All he keeps doing and continues to do, is call us caught scum/wolf on shampoo, rince, repeat. In what world do you read that as making any attempt at all to try to sincerely sort us. All I’ve seen from him other than that is ludicrous defensiveness. Agree about Chenn. I still don’t get the 180 on something clearly NAI. The only one tunnelling our slot, that I could see clearly looking for reactions was Taly. I do get Dann’s concern however.

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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:46 am

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In post 859, mbaki wrote:Yes.
I hate tight-lipped people. I feel like youre fairly open here, and that scares me even more.
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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:48 am

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@Dann, while I’m not hard townreading Chemist, I haven’t seen anything he’s done so far as remotely scummy, so until he does, I will tl him.

I pretty much agree with your readslist otherwise.
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:48 am

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In post 861, NanceFloor wrote:. In what world do you read that as making any attempt at all to try to sincerely sort us.
In what world is the proper response is to push his lynch over what you believe is an ineffective push? Its an issue where your response to his push is to push him for the same quality of material as he was pushing you with.
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:48 am

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Ignore him for now, and see where he goes?
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:49 am

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Cant go after every jerkhead who picks a bone with you.
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:54 am

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In post 858, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 681, OkaPoka wrote:shadowless
I dont have a read on either shadow or overkill.

lll iso those two after i read up.

In post 722, RadiantCowbells wrote:i have contacted multiple list mods and the game mods.
RC has shitposted this whole game, and i dont like it.

and yes, Im going to consider the whole spat w/flavor as part of a giant shitpost.

In post 756, Creature wrote:Ankle is town
i think so.
But why arent you posting at all?
In post 759, Taly wrote:Creature is not town?
gun to head, Id go here rn.
In post 830, Ankamius wrote:I'll tone back, I'm sorry
Dont be sorry. Its something I have to sort out myself. My playstyle can be . . . in need of improvement. Less shitpostting, less open with my TrainofThought, and more reserved. I come off, i feel, as immature and even juvenille. It grates me because people dont take it seriously until I bust open the game. Take flavor's talk about the recent musicals game. I had solved the better portion of the game but my style and an extended period of nonposting got me quicklynched by unsure town.
To be fair to RC, this is NAI for him. He did the same, actually much worse in DnD and I don’t think any of it is scum indicative. He was town in that game fwiw.

Also, I am still currently nullreading Creature, so I don’t get the tr on him. He needs to town it a helluva lot more, before I give him as easy tr.

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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:57 am

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In post 864, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 861, NanceFloor wrote:. In what world do you read that as making any attempt at all to try to sincerely sort us.
In what world is the proper response is to push his lynch over what you believe is an ineffective push? Its an issue where your response to his push is to push him for the same quality of material as he was pushing you with.
The world where he remains my strongest sr. Why should my read on him have changed at all? He’s done pretty much jack to earn it?
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:58 am

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In post 868, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 864, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 861, NanceFloor wrote:. In what world do you read that as making any attempt at all to try to sincerely sort us.
In what world is the proper response is to push his lynch over what you believe is an ineffective push? Its an issue where your response to his push is to push him for the same quality of material as he was pushing you with.
The world where he remains my strongest sr. Why should my read on him have changed at all? He’s done pretty much jack to earn it?
No, unlike TD, I actually have a decent case. Do I need to keep reposting it over and over again?
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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:59 am

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If his push is weak then he will be lynched eventually. its too early to focus on one person only. it stymies progress, and we have enough of that rn
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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:00 am

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In post 266, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 165, Time Devil wrote:
Not liking dann this game.....


:?
First: sr us, never really explains why.
In post 168, Time Devil wrote:VOTE: nancefloor
In post 170, Time Devil wrote:
In post 166, RadiantCowbells wrote:i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons
Please do
Tries to manipulate RC into pushing us.
In post 172, Time Devil wrote:
In post 166, RadiantCowbells wrote:i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons
And I 100% agree with you on this
If you
agree
with RC, what part of him not being interested in pushing us, went over your head?
In post 229, Time Devil wrote:
I can't help but feel like the NanceFloor heads disagree with each other, and the fact has to exist only gives credence.


Walking back initial fake sr on us.
In post 220, BrightEyedFish wrote:VOTE: chennisden

I don't have any experience with chennisden and I don't want to jump on okas wagon, so I'm placing my vote there.

Feel free to sheep me unless you have reason to believe scum put the 8ball there
. If so let us know.
This does not seem right. Is there a reason for not wanting to be on Oka's wagon? I agree with Fuscosco that this is overly cautious.

(but yeah chen should effort more)

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Really hard driving our lynch now.
In post 250, Time Devil wrote:
Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there
Now, does an apparent 180 and suddenly tr us here. But NOW wants to push us because we’re 100% never the target. :shifty:

If TD can’t push our mislynch by convincingly casing us as scum, he’s apparently good with casing us with NOT being the 8 ball.

So @TD, how did we go from your #1 sr to your #1 8 ball pick? Kind of sudden turnaround, wouldn’t you say?

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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:00 am

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One half of mafia is finding scum. the other half is convincing everyone else you are right
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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:05 am

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In post 870, Fuscosco wrote:If his push is weak then he will be lynched eventually. its too early to focus on one person only. it stymies progress, and we have enough of that rn
Well I’m sorry, it’s unusual for me to have even one sr on D1. I’m not going to sr anyone before I feel very confident about it. Other than TD, i’m iffy on any slots I’m not currently tr.

Clemency may also be town. I’m more of a townblock builder on D1 than a scumhunter unless a scumslot pretty much just jumps out at me. I keep imploring TD to show me why he’s town here and he just keeps tanking at it, so what am I supposed to do with that?

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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:06 am

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In post 872, Fuscosco wrote:One half of mafia is finding scum. the other half is convincing everyone else you are right
Well, I’ve made my case and if you don’t see it, there’s really not much else I can do, is there?
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