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Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:17 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 846, beeboy wrote:I actually still don't think he is Dunnstral
I am Dunnstral

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:18 pm
by MariaR
Chain Order 1.4
springlullaby
(5)
- springlullaby>Albert B. Rampage>midwaybear>Dunnstral>NDmath

Chainless:
(8)
- SirCakez, Raya36, Starbuck, Pink Ball, farside22, unwnd, TrueSoulEnergy, , beeboy


Quiz Team 1.4
Proposed Team
(5)
-
Springlullaby, farside, Starbuck, Raya36, Dunnstral


Approve
(6)
- Farside22, beeboy, midwaybear, Starbuck, Pink Ball, Dunnstral, L-1

Decline
(4)
- Albert B. Rampage, TrueSoulEnergy, NDmath, unwnd,

Not voting:
(3)
- SirCakez, Raya36, springlullaby


Deadline is in: (expired on 2020-06-09 23:03:21)

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:18 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 846, beeboy wrote:I actually still don't think he is Dunnstral even if he gave the chain to NDMath
Do you think NDMath was the best lynch today?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:18 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 851, MariaR wrote:PAGE TOPPPPPP
Sorry I had something very important to say

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:19 pm
by unwnd
In post 848, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 843, unwnd wrote:despite not being a pivotal member of anything going on at all
This isn't good reasoning, by the way
Why do you side with a player who has essentially played a game of perpetual catch up while I dance for your amusement

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:22 pm
by beeboy
In post 850, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 846, beeboy wrote:I actually still don't think he is Dunnstral
I am Dunnstral
I meant scum.
Dw your clean.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:22 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 815, Dunnstral wrote:Justification: My basis for this is that I want people to make a real choice for the lynch today (i.e. not the 'lurker' lynch) and I don't think his content is even bad, but I don't think anyone else will pass him the chain.
I acknowledge that he has not posted a lot
Players on this site have a tendency to lynch players who have not posted a lot
I do not think NDMath is scum for not having posted a lot specifically
The content he does have is decent - when he has more that can be evaluated as well. Also I just played a game with him and he was obvious town (I night killed him)
So I don't want him to be the lynch on day 1

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:24 pm
by unwnd
Midway when I came at you like..5 pages ago? I didn't say that just because I enjoyed hearing myself talk. Why did you ignore it?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:26 pm
by midwaybear
huh where. What did you do?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:26 pm
by unwnd
I think his content is safe, easy to make, and ultimately serves no purpose other than making an allotted checklist of what a townie would do

If you read that because you think that's honest then maybe you know more than me, but me personally I'm not persuaded about it given how I've talked about how I think this setup in itself benefits this

There's a reason you got the chain early dunn

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:26 pm
by beeboy
In post 852, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 846, beeboy wrote:I actually still don't think he is Dunnstral even if he gave the chain to NDMath
Do you think NDMath was the best lynch today?
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It's what you said I don't want him to be the throwaway easy lynch but unlike you I don't care if he dies.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:26 pm
by Dunnstral
Whereas you, unwnd, keep taking pot shots at me for "not producing content" when I feel like I'm doing OK, then say you're used to me not producing content (ok??? I don't remember the game this was from, maybe this is true), and keep pointing that out even though you don't think its ai

Along with other weirdness in your iso, and general disagreement of reads that feels scum motivated. Not related to TSE - I've started skimming over that stuff

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:28 pm
by beeboy
My old scum read Midway, (who could still be scum once I give the review him again since I promised farside).
And ABR is also safe, that's 2 scum out of the way but you cut off my POE Dunn :(

I don't we hit scum today at this point so I'd like to "trim some fat" which I can't do now.
Although you aren't wrong maybe forcing me to critically think about unwnd and cakez is for the best.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:29 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 860, beeboy wrote:It's what you said I don't want him to be the throwaway easy lynch but unlike you I don't care if he dies.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=82699

You can compare with his iso here; he did not have many posts early game + he reads as analytical; he eventually became obvious town IMO (I was serial killer so I was looking between town and mafia), maybe not the town's opinion

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:31 pm
by unwnd
In post 861, Dunnstral wrote:Whereas you, unwnd, keep taking pot shots at me for "not producing content" when I feel like I'm doing OK, then say you're used to me not producing content (ok??? I don't remember the game this was from, maybe this is true), and keep pointing that out even though you don't think its ai

Along with other weirdness in your iso, and general disagreement of reads that feels scum motivated. Not related to TSE - I've started skimming over that stuff
When did you get the opinion I was making potshots at you, I've sat here been mostly null and maybe a little annoyed about dunnisms in your style. I even said that I'm not ready to commit to a read on you until later on because that's the way you play?

Midway, I assume you don't want to read but I basically you seem very voiceless or even oppressed by others to share your opinion. You then say I was trying to pocket you over this?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:32 pm
by Dunnstral
Felt like every other post that wasn't @ tse was including me in some list of people who aren't doing anything

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:33 pm
by midwaybear
In post 864, unwnd wrote:You then say I was trying to pocket you over this?
I was talking about TSE not you because he kept on saying I was his locktown read

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:34 pm
by unwnd
In post 865, Dunnstral wrote:Felt like every other post that wasn't @ tse was including me in some list of people who aren't doing anything
We have clear players who aren't really involved in ways that are..argumentative? Is that the word I'm looking for. Just people who have been given more agency to do whatever they want. Such as Dunnstral/springlullaby/Pink Ball/Raya/SirCakez.
So you mean this one

And by every other post you mean one post

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:34 pm
by Dunnstral
midwaybear; why did you go with a 'safe' option?

Did you not want to give the chain to one of your townreads?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:35 pm
by unwnd
In post 866, midwaybear wrote:
In post 864, unwnd wrote:You then say I was trying to pocket you over this?
I was talking about TSE not you because he kept on saying I was his locktown read
That's not really how I interpreted it given TSE instantly began webbing his thoughts about how what he was saying about me was true

Moreover, what does this all mean for you? And why do you still remain mostly cautious?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:37 pm
by midwaybear
i didn't really TR anyone else besides you, Cakez, and beeboy. Apparently we are saving Cakez(and beeboy now) to be on the end of the chain so I gave it to you. Pink Ball and ND are sorta swingy reads, but they are more townie than TSE, unwnd, farside, starbuck to me.
pedit: I'm gonna check that out

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:37 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 252, unwnd wrote:I agree with SirCakez on Dunn that his behavior is mostly NAI
(in context that I'm 'not town enough' to be a townread)
In post 450, unwnd wrote: We have clear players who aren't really involved in ways that are..argumentative? Is that the word I'm looking for. Just people who have been given more agency to do whatever they want. Such as Dunnstral/springlullaby/Pink Ball/Raya/SirCakez.

This is a list I want to eventually come back to and will become more important as time goes on.
In post 485, unwnd wrote:
In post 456, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 450, unwnd wrote:We have clear players who aren't really involved in ways that are..argumentative? Is that the word I'm looking for. Just people who have been given more agency to do whatever they want. Such as Dunnstral/springlullaby/Pink Ball/Raya/SirCakez.
What are you expecting me to do here?
Nothing based on the games I've played with you
In post 646, unwnd wrote:Dunn and Pink both make posts and then I don't think about them at all, one of them being Dunn where I think the game needs to go on longer before I commit and the other being I don't know Pink at all
In post 843, unwnd wrote:Dunnstal - Gives NDmath the chain despite not being a pivotal member of anythign going on at all

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:39 pm
by beeboy
Spring is the hammer on her own team, it's 7 to hammer.
The team basically passed.


@NDMath pass it to farside/starbuck who can pass it to the other. We can't lynch them today.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:39 pm
by beeboy
In post 863, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 860, beeboy wrote:It's what you said I don't want him to be the throwaway easy lynch but unlike you I don't care if he dies.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=82699

You can compare with his iso here; he did not have many posts early game + he reads as analytical; he eventually became obvious town IMO (I was serial killer so I was looking between town and mafia), maybe not the town's opinion
I am taking a break, I put a piece of paper on my bulletin board to read this and review midway.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2020 1:40 pm
by beeboy
In post 872, beeboy wrote:@NDMath pass it to farside/starbuck who can pass it to the other. We can't lynch them today.
If I am gone someone ensure this happens.