Inu: i have 2 main scum reads. There is no wishy washy stuff about that. I looked at your list because everyone on your list had something you slighted as scummy in some small way.
Im just noticing with after the hanner from bug that pox7 is being a bit quiet. I noticed that quiet tends to come from scum to town.
Im listing my lynch preferences....are you?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:22 am
by inutile
In post 851, farside22 wrote:Inu: i have 2 main scum reads. There is no wishy washy stuff about that. I looked at your list because everyone on your list had something you slighted as scummy in some small way.
Im just noticing with after the hanner from bug that pox7 is being a bit quiet. I noticed that quiet tends to come from scum to town.
Im listing my lynch preferences....are you?
my list was in order, my vote is on gobbledygook and i have expressed that i found the hammer and what bugspray said after it very very scummy. what did you find wishy washy about my main two scumreads?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:24 am
by Ame
@Inu given my explanations do you still feel my initial reads are more likely to come from scum than own? And given the explanation for speculative vs factual do you still think the positions you have porkens and popo are justified?
In post 851, farside22 wrote:Inu: i have 2 main scum reads. There is no wishy washy stuff about that. I looked at your list because everyone on your list had something you slighted as scummy in some small way.
Im just noticing with after the hanner from bug that pox7 is being a bit quiet. I noticed that quiet tends to come from scum to town.
Im listing my lynch preferences....are you?
my list was in order, my vote is on gobbledygook and i have expressed that i found the hammer and what bugspray said after it very very scummy. what did you find wishy washy about my main two scumreads?
like i said i have been scumreading pretty much everyone to some extent so this list is mostly an attempt to weigh those scumreads against eachother. when i am kinda manic and excited to play i become don quixote tilting at windmills.
least likely to be mafia
farside - the associatives with porkens are the only thing i've noted as scummy. her stance on me feels unfair but not necessarily mafia indicative.
popopopopopopo - making a show out of wanting content instead of trying to get that content from players still feels mafia indicative to me. refusing to discuss that further also felt scummy to me. confidently declaring exemplar 100% scum probably a playstyle thing.
porkens - associatives with farside + the readslist being presented as a 'hey look i'm not scummy anymore' type of thing. like before that he was understanding of people scumreading him and then he made a big show out of having this big post coming, and then he presented that post as if it were meant to make him look town not to solve the game.
ame - the possible mafia reasons for the initial reads you presented feel stronger to me than the town reasons.
bugspray - it is hard to put that hammer any higher than this.
i think they knew it was a hammer, but i don't know if town!bugspray would lie about not knowing it was a hammer. maybe. like 'i am going to believe in my reads this game' then hammering someone they thought was scummy follows, but the oh didn't mean to hammer part doesn't.
gobbledygook - too hard for me to believe him with all of the factors considered.
most likely to be mafia
To be fair the bold reads very fence sitting on bug so it's hard to see you saying yes that is my second strongest scum read.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:33 am
by Porkens
If this is town we annihilate ame tomorrow.
VOTE: bugspray
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:34 am
by Ame
Do you mean scum?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:37 am
by Porkens
Nope
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:38 am
by inutile
In post 853, Ame wrote:@Inu given my explanations do you still feel my initial reads are more likely to come from scum than own? And given the explanation for speculative vs factual do you still think the positions you have porkens and popo are justified?
i think i said this earlier, or at least i tried to, but not as strongly as i did then, no. they make more sense to me now from a town!you perspective. your explanation made sense to me that behaviours themselves are more important than the reasons for them, and it also feels like porkens may be being spewed town, as both you and farside are working under that assumption without really directly working with porkens, so i'd move him to the top of the list at this time
In post 854, farside22 wrote:To be fair the bold reads very fence sitting on bug so it's hard to see you saying yes that is my second strongest scum read.
maybe i was not explaining it well then. i was saying that i think they were lying about not knowing it was a hammer, which isn't impossible from town!bugspray but much less likely (which has since been all but confirmed to not be the case based on their insistence, so it is either a) they knew it was hammer or scum or b) they did not know it was hammer as town) and that it didn't follow for town!bugspray to 'oh didn't mean to hammer' because the reason for town!bugspray to hammer would be because of the belief in their reads. basically,
town!bugspray > believes in reads > hammers > why 'oh didn't mean to?'
Porkens is there a reason you do not wish to utilize the day time?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:43 am
by Porkens
How am I not utilizing it?
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:44 am
by Ame
And rather than make assumptions about me why not ask me for elaboration/clarification on things that concern you. We have to stop rushing to conclusions.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:45 am
by gobbledygook
If Bugspray flips scum, Ame’s scum equity goes up. That said she’s the only other power role claimed so I am townreading her for now.
Farside I think is playing both sides with the vote on Bugspray and the spiritual vote on me.
Inutile’s paranoia and stubborness on me looks town.
Porkens reads town now too.
Farside > pox7 > good luck
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:45 am
by Ame
You put bugs at L-1 when discussion is still ongoing. You did this to HEM as well.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:46 am
by Porkens
Do we? I think I’ve heard enough from you for the day. Hem also needed lynching.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:50 am
by Ame
In post 865, Porkens wrote:Do we? I think I’ve heard enough from you for the day. Hem also needed lynching.
In post 863, gobbledygook wrote:That said she’s the only other power role claimed so I am townreading her for now.
would everyone claiming be beneficial?
In post 865, Porkens wrote:Do we? I think I’ve heard enough from you for the day. Hem also needed lynching.
see here i want to point out the possibility that this sudden desire for an immediate lynch could be connected to everyone noting popopopopopopo's absence. i feel like everyone is trying to discourage me from doing that though.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:56 am
by Porkens
Ooooo now this is exciting. State your case.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:56 am
by Ame
I think the Farside + Porkens association is possibly correct. Porkens changed his demeanor when I began question Farside and asking her about him. Additionally, Gobs believes that Farsi and Bugs are the team. If bugs flips town, this looks good for Farsi. And Porkens is attempting to make it look bad for me despite the obvious conclusion being that bugs flipping scum increases my scum equity. Porkens push here feels reactionary to my questioning and possibly a chainsaw of Farsi.
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:59 am
by Porkens
Neither farside nor popopopopo nor myself are getting lynched today. Bugspray is the correct eat lynch with you right behind. Not sure what inutile is doing but he’s pinging me pretty hard.