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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:17 am
by Farren
In post 844, Ydrasse wrote:in general you do these little things like post "thinking about if i should omgus or not" which seem performative. i don't get the need to announce stuff like that specifically instead of just.. doing it?
Thematically, this sounds similar to what Bell thought you were doing - self-narrating. What's the difference?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:17 am
by Ydrasse
i actually think now i'd prefer dunn over tea leaves; my read on tea leaves in that situation kind of rests on the implication that dunn is scum along with tea and i can... feasibly believe that tea believes farren is scum even if i don't think that the examples provided are particularly damning. i also don't have a reason to really townread dunn in comparison to other people.

VOTE: dunn

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:20 am
by Paragon
I see Ydrasse! You see splitting the pressure between two wagons as scummy but I don't at all and do that as town all the time. Both of my scumreads being pressured at the same time is a good thing.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:20 am
by Ydrasse
In post 850, Farren wrote:
In post 844, Ydrasse wrote:in general you do these little things like post "thinking about if i should omgus or not" which seem performative. i don't get the need to announce stuff like that specifically instead of just.. doing it?
Thematically, this sounds similar to what Bell thought you were doing - self-narrating. What's the difference?
from what i know of how bell sees me it's the difference between me saying that i think xyz and am presenting my opinion in a certain way to like... appear townie vs tea leaves suggesting something as a potential action rather than going through with it.

i also think that it's flavored by the position wherein tea is suggesting/saying it to
me
so it feels as if they are like, waiting for me to say something that they could potentially twist as "oh wrong answer, i can in fact omgus you now."

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:21 am
by Ydrasse
er. is that a uh. little slip up?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:21 am
by Bell
Alt slip.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:22 am
by tea leaves
In post 852, Paragon wrote:I see Ydrasse! You see splitting the pressure between two wagons as scummy but I don't at all and do that as town all the time. Both of my scumreads being pressured at the same time is a good thing.
Uh whoops.
Don't spill the beans

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:23 am
by Ydrasse
your secret is safe with me.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:23 am
by Bell
I’m going to tell everyone I know.
Scandal of the year.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:24 am
by Farren
Clearly tea leaves must kill us all to stop this from spreading.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:25 am
by Ydrasse
also, fwiw regarding morning tweet i remember having a scumread before on her in a previous game because of the way that she approaches things and sort of flits about, offers the townreads that she does, etc; it seemed strange and threw me down a rabbit hole. i don't think that she's acting any different than in the game we played together though and she was town in that one, so.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:28 am
by Isis
Whats Dunnstral at?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:28 am
by Isis
Does anyone in this entire game even nullread me

Guiltylion maybe?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:31 am
by Farren
In post 861, Isis wrote:Whats Dunnstral at?
I think that's E-1.

Morning Tweet, GuiltyLion, tea leaves, Ydrasse?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:32 am
by Isis
We have one day, I'll give intent here

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:35 am
by Isis
Is it optimal to cc immediately if Dunnstral claims arsonist or put it off a day to spray some water around

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:36 am
by Morning Tweet
In post 846, Morning Tweet wrote:Bop was wrong way of putting it. More like.. people expecting me to hard TR my partner and try n save them two times in a row

The reason I chose Ydrasse was cause i was putting it off despite having her close to the bottom of my reads and a lot of ppl wanting her. I was like "yah that sounds fine" but i didn't actually do the work n review her posts
In post 847, Bell wrote:^^^see this kind of post is what makes me think she isn’t sorting people. She just states her opinion and doesn’t really invite challenges minus those question marks. She also focuses on one view and doesn’t try to consider other possibilities. It’s narrow
Wat

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:36 am
by Bell
Dunnstrall is one of those rare players where everyone is scum/null reading him which would normally make him maybe not scum, but if his partner town read him he’d be outted as partner because you couldn’t possibly know that.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:36 am
by Bell
^^^ = 3 posts above this one.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:37 am
by Morning Tweet
OH im dumb dont mind me

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:38 am
by Bell
So ydrasse is scum, you agree!

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:38 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 865, Isis wrote:Is it optimal to cc immediately if Dunnstral claims arsonist or put it off a day to spray some water around
Do you mean FF
I’d say the former, it put scum at a solid numbers disadvantage to start (if they want to ensure that the FF is gone ASAP, they have to ignite N2, which equal one night they could have primed that they didn’t).

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:42 am
by Isis
Oh yeah you're right

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:44 am
by Bell
No, isis definitely meant to cc arsonist.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:47 am
by Morning Tweet
I'm gonna pretend i didn't see that alt slip cause they really had me going that they were a different person this time :C

AGAIN i feel like Ydrasse would be more conscious of how we're viewing her if she's scum. That hop on to the Dunn wagon without giving any detailed analysis as to why she agrees with the Dunn wagon versus other wagons? strange to me considering her scum game

I think if I abolish her meta from my mind, then yes Ydrasse is probably lean scum because she's mostly floating about the place sorta.
In post 860, Ydrasse wrote:also, fwiw regarding morning tweet i remember having a scumread before on her in a previous game because of the way that she approaches things and sort of flits about, offers the townreads that she does, etc; it seemed strange and threw me down a rabbit hole. i don't think that she's acting any different than in the game we played together though and she was town in that one, so.
sometimes i feel like im playing my own game where I locktown as many people as possible for sometimes outlandish reasons, i try to convey it to the thread unsuccessfully, and then it's a coin toss whether I'm right or wrong anyway. Well i don't know, I don't *usually* locktown scum

The townreads I'd be upset about being wrong about at this point (they're probably high-to-medium strength):

Isis (Mena)
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tea leaves (clidd)
Ydrasse
GuiltyLion

maybe something like that

And about the nonconfrontational thing, that's just me as a person seeping in -- I feel like I'm playing poorly when I get accused of being scum as town, so i have a mental block on doing it to other people if i'm not confident on it actually being true