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In post 845, Not_Mafia wrote:Geraint is a waste of an elimination, elim Walter please and thank you

uhhuh

This is kinda awkward though with the two and a half hours.

so now that you think that isnt the case youll put your vote back?

yeah i mean the replacement will need time to read

I'm still feeling strong about the shelly wagon. I'm tempted to do an ISO on Walter, depending on how long this deadline is going to be in place. Still a town lean for me.

In post 839, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 826, RCEnigma wrote:I will hammer whichever wagon hits E-1 first as soon as it hits E-1 no questions asked. Claims out if ya got em.

this post never comes from town

ur so cracked

honestly ill switch to shellyc

VOTE: shellyc

i town read this slot but i really don't like who's on the walter wagon with me

Geraint you can revote now

In post 856, Nosferatu wrote:honestly ill switch to shellyc

VOTE: shellyc

i town read this slot but i really don't like who's on the walter wagon with me

+1
VOTE: Shelly

Votecount 2.1

Not Voting (11): ItalianoVD(0), callforjudgement(0), Gamma Emerald(0), Looker(0), geraintm(0), Raya36(0), Frogsterking(0), Nosferatu(0), RCEnigma(0), Tayl0rSwift(0), WaltertheDunce10(0)

With 11 alive it takes 6 to eliminate.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-09-22 17:44:55)

FLAVOR

VOTE: CFJ

He tried to pull the BW off shelly yesterday.

In post 827, callforjudgement wrote:Less than four hours to go. Where is everyone?

@Looker: I don't think there's time to build a geraintm wagon at this point, with only two votes on it; you posted recently, please move if you're online. I would prefer you to move onto Walter; however, if you think that Walter is town and/or shelly is scum, and place the fifth vote on the shelly wagon as a consequence, then I'll provide the sixth vote on the shelly wagon in 1½-2 hours from now in order to avoid hitting deadline.

In post 829, callforjudgement wrote:shelly is posting elsewhere (e.g. in url=[https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12108322]this completed game[/url], about 40 minutes ago). Hopefully she turns up here soon.

In post 835, callforjudgement wrote:That's… a really awkward time to pause deadline at, because it means I (and everyone else) have to check the thread every 2 hours or so for the rest of the Day in order to move to a consensus wagon to avoid deadline, and that could happen at any random time of day. I can't reasonably be online constantly.

I'm wondering whether showing lack of interest in this game in particular (shelly has apparently forgotten about it while signing up for new games elsewhere) is a towntell for shelly (even though it would be a scumtell for many players). Her first game here was as scum (flying solo from N1 onwards) and she apparently really enjoyed it. (She also has a list of completed and current games in her signature, and this one isn't listed.)

In post 855, Nosferatu wrote:

In post 839, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 826, RCEnigma wrote:I will hammer whichever wagon hits E-1 first as soon as it hits E-1 no questions asked. Claims out if ya got em.

this post never comes from town

ur so cracked

In post 856, Nosferatu wrote:honestly ill switch to shellyc

VOTE: shellyc

i town read this slot but i really don't like who's on the walter wagon with me

I'm tempted to town read Nosferatu for the end of day switch here.

I can’t say I expected that execute flip, or that kill
Maybe I need to reset?

In post 867, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can’t say I expected that execute flip, or that kill
Maybe I need to reset?

I'm scum reading this comment.

In post 864, Frogsterking wrote:VOTE: CFJ

He tried to pull the BW off shelly yesterday.

I did. I'd pretty much talked myself into seeing shelly as town, and was very surprised by the flip (and still am). I didn't (and still dont) have a townread on Walter (although I don't have a strong scumread either), so the choice from my point of view was obvious.

Normally it's very hard to get a scum wagon over the finish line. That's especially the case when day's ending and it's a compromise wagon and many of the players on it don't feel particularly strongly about it; that should be (and usually is) a trivial situation for scum to manipulate. So why didn't they?

It would help to know whether shelly a) had forgotten about this game entirely, or b) was intentionally avoiding it, but I don't see if there's any way to find out. She was busy signing up for new games even as we were scrambling to find a deadline wagon; you'd expect her to at least drop a post in thread and/or to vote for Walter, maybe getting that wagon through first. If she intentionally avoiding the game, the only explanation I can see is that she was scum with Walter and scum agreed upon her as a sacrifice to make Walter look good (that would explain why she was interested in signing up for a new game).

Enough has happened that I don't understand that I don't feel comfortable in voting yet, though.

I'm more interested in cfj's theory than I am worried about how he was town reading shelly although I am suspicious of both.

VOTE: Walter

I feel like there's a pretty good chance scum is between cfj or Walter though

In post 866, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 855, Nosferatu wrote:

In post 839, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 826, RCEnigma wrote:I will hammer whichever wagon hits E-1 first as soon as it hits E-1 no questions asked. Claims out if ya got em.

this post never comes from town

ur so cracked

In post 856, Nosferatu wrote:honestly ill switch to shellyc

VOTE: shellyc

i town read this slot but i really don't like who's on the walter wagon with me

I'm tempted to town read Nosferatu for the end of day switch here.

I agreee sorta also. Iam trying to figure out why scum team would not stall out the game state again. Which makes me think nos is town for that. Although I'm not sure RCE using the same reasons is a good one.

In post 867, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can’t say I expected that execute flip, or that kill
Maybe I need to reset?

Or we can just vote you off.

In post 864, Frogsterking wrote:VOTE: CFJ

He tried to pull the BW off shelly yesterday.

Among other things.