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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:45 pm
by Bell
That question was directed at both A50, Titus, Mastina.

And I suppose I should turn the contempt button down on Mastina because at least they're trying.
I haven't read your case and I never will because I already town told.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:45 pm
by mastina
In post 845, Bell wrote:As scum would you be above claiming set up ignorance for easy town points?
I don't fake ignorance, but that doesn't mean scumastina can't be genuinely ignorant. :P

I never fake a mistake, but I can genuinely make a legit mistake.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:46 pm
by April Ludgate
@Bell - don’t expect that it would be feigning scum ignorance full front. Scum don’t like to read rules either. :lol: in regards to the Mastina question. I personally am town reading Mastina here.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:46 pm
by April Ludgate
Mastina won’t do anything as scum that they wouldn’t do as town.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:46 pm
by superbowl9
Oh i forgot about you AL. I think you might be scum too

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:48 pm
by Bell
I'm not sure how helpful introducing the concept of thinking about whether your roles were given to you by friends or people that know you as scum versus just not knowing that.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:48 pm
by Almost50
In post 847, Tayl0r Swift wrote:oh so youre hectic too?
Manic is more like it, I think. :lol:

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:49 pm
by mastina
In post 849, superbowl9 wrote:But you have an expectation that you should be having a townread on them, that's the part you left out.
Yes, there is an expectation that I should be townreading them.

That expectation is not burden of proficiency, because burden of proficiency is an expectation of shown demonstrated competency/accuracy.

My expectation requires no skill, no competency, no accuracy.

Just the presence of being town.

I've only seen one post that gave me that feeling at all.

One post
can
be enough, sometimes, but one post can also be scum having made one good post among hundreds of not-as-good posts.
So I want more from them to better judge the slot and get a better read, if the one post was a fluke of them being scum and happening to briefly say something that looked town, or if the one post was just the first of many town posts to follow.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:49 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 827, Ban Hydras wrote:As town, i always forget to capitalise my 'i's. as scum, i always fakeclaim loud vengeful fruit vendor

~Buttercup
You can tell if I’m typing on my busted iPad or not if my I’s aren’t capitalized, and there’s a sense of fuck all when it comes to spelling and punctuation. Or typos.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:50 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 854, superbowl9 wrote:Oh i forgot about you AL. I think you might be scum too
Can you keep this exact level of pushing me so I can coast until like Day 4?

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:52 pm
by Almost50
In post 850, Bell wrote:That question was directed at both A50, Titus, Mastina.
If you mean this:
In post 845, Bell wrote:As scum would you be above claiming set up ignorance for easy town points?
Then the answer is "probably not". HOWEVER, I do tend to get analytical/mechanical so I don't think it would benefit me in a large at all. I mean, public info is public.

If that's NOT the question you're referring to then please point me to "that question".

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:53 pm
by superbowl9
In post 857, mastina wrote:
In post 849, superbowl9 wrote:But you have an expectation that you should be having a townread on them, that's the part you left out.
Yes, there is an expectation that I should be townreading them.

That expectation is not burden of proficiency, because burden of proficiency is an expectation of shown demonstrated competency/accuracy.

My expectation requires no skill, no competency, no accuracy.

Just the presence of being town.

I've only seen one post that gave me that feeling at all.

One post
can
be enough, sometimes, but one post can also be scum having made one good post among hundreds of not-as-good posts.
So I want more from them to better judge the slot and get a better read, if the one post was a fluke of them being scum and happening to briefly say something that looked town, or if the one post was just the first of many town posts to follow.
I don't understand why you have this expectation for only this slot though, if you're not BoPing shouldnt this apply to everyone

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:54 pm
by Almost50
In post 853, April Ludgate wrote:Mastina won’t do anything as scum that they wouldn’t do as town.
Except faking a case on town and miseliminating them by day, or straight up shooting them at night, you mean?? :lol:

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:54 pm
by superbowl9
In post 859, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 854, superbowl9 wrote:Oh i forgot about you AL. I think you might be scum too
Can you keep this exact level of pushing me so I can coast until like Day 4?
Actually yes

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:56 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 862, Almost50 wrote:
In post 853, April Ludgate wrote:Mastina won’t do anything as scum that they wouldn’t do as town.
Except faking a case on town and miseliminating them by day, or straight up shooting them at night, you mean?? :lol:
She’s gonna call the same stuff out as either alignment, even if you are partners with her.

It’s the level that she pushes is the difference.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:58 pm
by Almost50
Well, she won't be shooting townies at night when she's town, that's for sure. ;)

P.S. NOT EVEN if she rolls Vig, as -according to her- Vihilante is anti-Town and should always holster.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:01 pm
by Bell
That's exactly what I meant.
@A50.
Thx.

@April, you're not wrong. I think some players from meta are more prone to read the set ups than others and sometimes scum get a little nervous when I ask town to tell me they're town. Or whether as scum to disagree or not take the absurd question seriously.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:01 pm
by superbowl9
Anyone wanna hop on the jjh train

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:02 pm
by mastina
In post 861, superbowl9 wrote:I don't understand why you have this expectation for only this slot though, if you're not BoPing shouldnt this apply to everyone
It does, actually, unless I have meta indicating to me that a lack of town/scum isn't a scum-indicator.

By default, given enough posts from a user and with no meta suggesting otherwise, a lack of a read one way or another would be a minor scum-indicator.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:06 pm
by Bell
In post 867, superbowl9 wrote:Anyone wanna hop on the jjh train
I shall white knight with you.

VOTE: JJH

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:07 pm
by mastina
In post 865, Almost50 wrote:P.S. NOT EVEN if she rolls Vig, as -according to her- Vihilante is anti-Town and should always holster.
Oh heavens no.

Vigilantes aren't anti-town.

ME getting a vigilante IS anti-town. :P

And, there is a caveat to me and Vig powers.
If I am in a "use it or lose it" situation with a vig, I will in fact use it.
If the vig is gated significantly, I will probably use it at least once.
If the game is on evens and I am fairly sure my vig is the only way to get to odds, I will use it.
If I need to prove that I have the vig power, then I will use it.

Generally speaking, that means that I actually will use a vig shot in quite a lot of cases--but only if one (or ideally, more) of the criteria above are met.

Otherwise, I will indeed holster because fuck giving me a vig, my townreads are always more accurate than my scumreads so I'm disproportionately likely to shoot town, making it an antitown role for ME to have.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:08 pm
by Bell
This is all playstyle probably, but that post reads as extremely NAI.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:09 pm
by superbowl9
In post 869, Bell wrote:
In post 867, superbowl9 wrote:Anyone wanna hop on the jjh train
I shall white knight with you.

VOTE: JJH
Thanks my friend

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:10 pm
by Bell
<3 At least we're not scum buddies together this game.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:11 pm
by Almost50
Actually, here's my first serious vote 9actually my first in-game vote, since my RVS went to a spectator)

VOTE: Gamma

Gamma has been on MS for 4.5 hours now. He made 47 public posts (the last if which was maybe 2 minutes ago) but is yet to even make an ego post in this game.