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In post 848, Uncrowned wrote:Purple/Noraa probably TvT.

Infinity backtracking on his TR of me because he hasn't pocketed me yet = scum.

Gamma no trajectory SR on my slot = scum.

Solved. You're welcome guys.

prodigy gamer right here boyz
you're gonna go far kid

I'm sorry I can't stop laughing becuase Infinity and Gamma are like my biggest TRs atm.

I'd take a bow but I'm clumsy and might trip over myself

It happens.

In post 849, Purple Heart wrote:

In post 846, Infinity 324 wrote:HEAL: Purple
HEAL: Infinity
HEAL: Gamma

I like gamma’s casual-ness to approaching reads, whereas he tried to look town more in haunted village. I have some paranoia wrt uncrowned and haven’t solidified my outworlder read, so I’m actually most comfortable with gamma as my second strongest TR.

Yeah honestly, I think this is the strongest student counsel we can ask for.
When it comes to doctor saves, the amount of kills I stopped is stupidly high for no reason. I can actually provide links but I'm either getting like super lucky or I just know how to use protection roles well.
My vote here is in spirit but I feel like it would be inappropriate for me to commit to this because I remember Taly telling me he wanted to talk to Gamma.

I think this student counsel is super strong not because of how I know how to use doctors, but I feel like I would just be able to get a lot of work done with Infinity and Gamma.
I also feel like if I am ever being unreasonable, which it is very easy for me to get, they will be able to keep me in check.

bruh you are a gamer holy shit

i love it

Uncrowned can you go in more depth about your read on me? And what did you think of my last few pages?

I will a bit later. I haven't done much except skim over that obnoxious Purple/Noraa conflict (sorry lmao but that's what it was) so when I'm feeling less demotivated by her misrepping me completely I will try come back with higher effort.

In post 812, Purple Heart wrote:post your best meme right now flareon

I'm more of a witty in the moment poster
Or at least I like to think so

In post 814, Infinity 324 wrote:Murder you still haven’t gone into solvy-flareon mode and that makes me sad.

I know I said I would reread though

In post 847, Gamma Emerald wrote:What felt strange for you, MCat?

I will remember to address this

What did I join?

In post 862, kookiemonster wrote:What did I join?

Ego for Hydra

20 pages into my re-read, but I think this is where a lot of Purple/Noora starts anyway so I'm fine leaving it here for just now.

Flea: Massive amounts of active lurking. Almost no game-relevant content. Trying to play the null game.

MURDERCAT: I legitimately had nothing to say about their posting in my notes. Don't know whether that's good or bad.

Tracy: Sort of null-ish. Mostly early mechanical talk, but the posting following that was decent. I don't agree with her take on OutworldER but it didn't read as scummy to me.

Swizzle (Now Kookie): I may have overreacted to the P1 circle voting of Infinity/Swizzle/MURDER. On reevaluation it can definitely just be players who have history, since I've done similar things myself in the past. The posting from this slot was rather decent, but left a bit to be desired in terms of explanations. There was a lot of rapid-fire real-time reactions to posting and the vibes they were giving off, but I'm not sure I can TL the slot based on that when I can't get the full thought process behind *why* the posting gives those vibes. However, it didn't feel like this was just scum slinging stuff around and hoping it stuck. The tone is believable. I'll give Noora/Purple a better read to see what I'm finding there.

Gamma: Inoffensive posting is the phrase I'd use to describe Gamma here. I don't really understand what he meant by Koba having a "need" to SR him and Infinity during the early-game? That didn't make a lot of sense to me. But I do think his reaction to Koba's read on the gamestate (the thing where they posted about there being two competing sets of players) was genuine. I don't feel like there's a whole heap of solving going on from this slot, but it's better than what I recalled.

OutworldER: I'm still leaning town here, although less so than I was when I was reacting to the game in real time. His tone is still good, I'm not seeing a lot of urge to try and "play townie" to try and get onto the council (which I think scum would be highly incentivized to do) but I don't think there's a whole heap of effort being dedicated to solving here. The TLs he's listed are rather flimsy imo, including the one on myself.

Infinity: Early prodding and questioning is probably more town indicative than anything. However, he's playing far too pockety, much more than I'd expect. I'm interested in where he's getting his MURDER scumelean on, which I'm thinking will be explained in the more recent pages, I'd imagine? If not, then that's just a fake read. The rest of my take on Infinity will be explained in the next section.

Koba (Now Purple Heart): Liked their original pickup on Swizzle + Murder having the same council vote to start. Bringing that up felt like proactive town questioning. Brought up the same thing I was initially thinking about Tracy which was a bit too centric on mech talk, so I liked that too. I sense legitimate frustration by how they were being read for their "change" in personality, which I get myself. Moods can change rapidly and so can play, so I related to that. I think the most telling thing about Koba's alignment in this game was Page 13, actually. That interaction between them and Infinity spoke to me quite clearly. Infinity really didn't look good there imo.

The only thing of note upon Purple replacing Koba at this point was the reads list, which I thought was solid, and is quite similar to what I'm thinking about the gamestate at Page 20.

I'll try read the rest soon. As for now, my reads would be, based on this:

Purple
Tracy / Kookie
OutworldER

Gamma
Murder

Infinity
Flea

In post 858, Uncrowned wrote:I will a bit later. I haven't done much except skim over that obnoxious Purple/Noraa conflict (sorry lmao but that's what it was) so when I'm feeling less demotivated by her misrepping me completely I will try come back with higher effort.

Would also like to make an apology for being snarky here. I don't like being misrepped and all but conflict is part of this game and playstyle differences are a real thing.

In post 864, Uncrowned wrote:Infinity: Early prodding and questioning is probably more town indicative than anything. However, he's playing far too pockety, much more than I'd expect. I'm interested in where he's getting his MURDER scumelean on, which I'm thinking will be explained in the more recent pages, I'd imagine? If not, then that's just a fake read. The rest of my take on Infinity will be explained in the next section.

How are you getting a scumread from this? Was it just the koba push?

Your early early game was town enough, but you just really read as though you're trying to pocket people and get onto the council, which I think would do wonders for the scumteam. Have you developed on your Murder read at all? I'd be more happy to discuss it in real-time as going through pages upon pages can be tiresome.

And yeah, your Koba push didn't read to me as genuine at all. You felt really closed off to where they were coming from on Page 12 + 13. I feel like you'd be more inclined to at least entertain that discussion than just rush to the conclusion of Scum!Koba right away.

Like I feel in terms of playstyle there's some similarity between us in terms of constant questioning and gathering reads through that, but a big part of that is being able to handle people's responses and having conversations in good faith with them. I don't feel like you were engaging with Koba in good faith during that interaction.

Yeah I just hate getting into 1v1s, and koba can get on my nerves and I just didn’t feel like continuing that exchange. In terms of pocketing, I like to develop positive interactions with my townreads because it helps town synergy. If it felt like pocketing then *shrug*

My murder read is basically at “I need to see the town!murder I know otherwise I’m scumreading him”. I was able to read him as town really quickly in the couple games we’ve played together, he isn’t always immediately towny to me (spectated a game where I thought he was scum for that reason) so I’m giving him a chance. Some other things that pinged me were buddying early on, and a bit of awkwardness when I discussed my read on him around 379. Not the central reason for my read, but may be more useful to you.

I'm confused, didn't you say the games you where in with town murder, he was already practically confirmed town and that's why you were able to read him so easily? Because this is a fresh game, wouldn't it naturally be harder to read his alignment? Or am I confusing him with someone else?

I was being tongue-in-cheek, he was practically confirmed town to me since I got a soul read on him so quickly.

Oh, okay. I thought you were implying you like replaced into the game and there was stuff that happened that game that made you think he was town. My bad.

So what's got you paranoid about me?

Normally I find it scum-indicative when a player is towny and active early on, then falls off a bit. There obviously could be other reasons like RL, but that’s a tell I’ve noticed. I liked your catchup reasonably well though. I’m gonna ISO you tomorrow

Ah it's activity based. Fair, I guess.

I wouldn't say activity is a tell for me on either side. Although I would say in general my quality of play becomes worse the less active I am in thread.