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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:52 am
by Ahsoka
In post 846, Albert B. Rampage wrote:The fact the wagon grew fast on kanna doesn't make kanna town.
yeah, Uncrowned went fast too, so I think that’s just the game being played right now.

MT, Kanna, and Menalque are what's messing with me.

I'm going back and forth on Clidd, but I'm going to trust that for now.

ABR, I'm gonna naturally lean town but paranoia scum no matter what.

Alisae scum wouldn't be empowering me like this, especially if I'm not pushing people much, unless they consider me the one who pushed Infinity through, which I guess I was. I don't see why I would be town read here, though.

Hopkirk, eh, I liked our 1v1 when I look back at it. I might just like Hopkirk, though.

who'd I miss? I think that's 1 person I missed.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:53 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 444, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 440, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 434, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Go read some MT scum games actually. They usually just let her win as scum.
show me one
No I am going to be a lazy POS and do nothing of the sort.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:53 am
by Ahsoka
oh, pooky.

Idk with Pooky. They always push me as scum, and while I think their play has been weird if scum, and I town read it, I don't think they're not capable of posting like that as scum.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:54 am
by clidd
Actually, Kanna isn't towny because of her reaction to wagon/pressure.

She's towny imo because of her unconscious confbias on me. Her mentioning the relationship of my vote with the poe I showed, accusing me of being a liar, interpreting my reads as fabricated to simulate genuine and association with scum!Clidd that she experienced are indications of a line of confbias.

I have a hard time seeing scum!Kanna projecting this organically.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:56 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
To take 434 as a good faith thought you had, you have some games in mind where you saw Tweetie!Scum behave similarly and win through this style of play

when challenged on it, you say refuse, which implies you were not actually thinking of any games.

It's similar to the brazen manner you pushed with noraa on my slot and refused to engage in any logical discussion whatsoever.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:56 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 851, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 444, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 440, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 434, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Go read some MT scum games actually. They usually just let her win as scum.
show me one
No I am going to be a lazy POS and do nothing of the sort.
My laziness is NAI

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:57 am
by Albert B. Rampage
MT confirmed what I said though so you can take her word for it

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:57 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 849, Albert B. Rampage wrote:MT tone is the opposite of my tone, so if you townread her and scumread me, it's most likely based on communication style, tone, and agreeableness.
I tone-read MT as town because I've played multiple games with MT town where her tone is like this.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:57 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 852, Ahsoka wrote:oh, pooky.

Idk with Pooky. They always push me as scum, and while I think their play has been weird if scum, and I town read it, I don't think they're not capable of posting like that as scum.
And now he's pushing me as scum the way he pushes you as scum

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:58 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 857, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 849, Albert B. Rampage wrote:MT tone is the opposite of my tone, so if you townread her and scumread me, it's most likely based on communication style, tone, and agreeableness.
I tone-read MT as town because I've played multiple games with MT town where her tone is like this.
Have you played with MT as scum though because I have

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:58 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 856, Albert B. Rampage wrote:MT confirmed what I said though so you can take her word for it
MT didn't play betrayal mafia and I did so I kind of experienced your openwolf shitpush first hand and she didn't.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:58 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 859, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Have you played with MT as scum though because I have
yup

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:59 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 854, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:To take 434 as a good faith thought you had, you have some games in mind where you saw Tweetie!Scum behave similarly and win through this style of play

when challenged on it, you say refuse, which implies you were not actually thinking of any games.

It's similar to the brazen manner you pushed with noraa on my slot and refused to engage in any logical discussion whatsoever.
I read many MT games and her tone is always like this. The tone doesn't change it's only the scumhunting that does.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:00 am
by Albert B. Rampage
OK Pooky is scum. I won't make anyone follow me though.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:04 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
what's this read based on?

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:08 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
you can just write a one line main idea if you're having trouble coming up with a full fledged case.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:19 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 852, Ahsoka wrote:oh, pooky.

Idk with Pooky. They always push me as scum, and while I think their play has been weird if scum, and I town read it, I don't think they're not capable of posting like that as scum.
wtf are you even talking about.

we've played 2 games together. 1 of which I was scum. I did not "push you".

it's like you're in delusional lala land here.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:21 am
by Hopkirk
(Uncrowned/Kanna/Clidd?)

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:22 am
by Hopkirk
except not kanna and clidd oh right

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:26 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 867, Hopkirk wrote:(Uncrowned/Kanna/Clidd?)
This low hanging fruit POE is unlikely

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:26 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I'm at Uncrowned ABR Clidd

The probability of Kanna scum = 0

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:28 am
by Hopkirk
ABR moved for town vibey stuff that I can bring up if I have to I guess but I get vibes and you get vibes and they might not be the same vibes

Menalaque I put in town because of clidd saying they had strong meta for a very strong townread there and that moved Menal up regardless of clidd's alignment

uncrowned didn't read as good from their wagon breaking down. don't get the reads changing there tbh. if there's stuff happening in the hood during the day that's changing reads then... why is it happening in the hood?

Pooky I think I can sort later.

Morning tweet is giving me the same vibes shelly did during death curse where I had her as a relatively good townread/she was the only scum I was strong townreading, despite me also thinking 'she's probably just scum buddying me'. I'm going to let other people sort MT. Since my townreads below sorted her as town she's town. Nice. That was easy

Alisae and Ashoka are town that I'm not looking at outside of their reads. Alisae is hard to sheep because it feels like they're still solving

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:29 am
by Hopkirk
someone said 2 scum and that
probably
doesn't reconcile with no nightkill

Clidd/Uncronwed/X with X being hard to find I guess then

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:30 am
by Hopkirk
Clidd's lack of vote on uncrowned then voting on Kanna is weird and I didn't like his explanation for it enough

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:30 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
specifically my read on Kanna is from this game:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=85019

My Kanna is beautiful - pure and true. I would be beyond devastated if she were scum, and in affairs of the heart I am almost never wrong.