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In post 579, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 576, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 574, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 572, Infinity 324 wrote:Flea why did you hammer I told people to wait for the VC

HURT: alisae for now, mainly because I'm paranoid of em and I feel varying degrees of comfortable with everyone else on the attackers list. I'd be ok leaving out pooky or maybe andres as well

I think this is Scum.

Why?

Because Alisae is Town. I’m like almost certain of it. It’s the only strong read I have. So this guarantees there will be Scum almost among the choices to be made that could end the game.

In post 588, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 586, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 583, Infinity 324 wrote:PEdit: andres idgi, if alisae is town we can still form an all-town bloc yeah?

The more obvious Town you exclude, the harder it is to win. I wouldn’t vote for a single team without Alisae in it. That’s my stand.

Now, they voted to Heal me a lot. I need to be careful and hope I’m not pocketed. I’m known to be a little loud, and I can certainly be wrong. So I will re-read. But just my gut instinct was always extremely positive on Alisae.

In post 589, tris wrote:i am really curious why sha777 made the choices he made

In post 631, Alisae wrote:Cakez if you don't stop playing like garbage with comments like "this is hot garbage" "Andres' attacks on Infinity just seem so made up and scum motivated" I'm actually going to get really irritated because I can't tell if ur just town who wants to play badly and wants to beat their own drum or scum or scum.
None of your posts actually address the why.
- Why is this hot garbage
- Why does andres' attacks seem made up
- Why do you hate Sha's reaction in 135? Why was their opening tonally weird?
- Why do you think Sha is scum? Nothing in between the post where you called out 135 and 397 really explains it
- Why do you think that them trying to ferret their way into my read on them is scum indicative when it seems like from a general skim they're just asking you questions because you're so fucking obtuse? Is this not what they're doing?
- Everything in here is fucking garbage

In post 421, SirCakez wrote:

In post 135, Sha 77 wrote:My observations were exaggerated and memes lol, not serious at all

Maybe the only one that was serious is the Flea self-conscious observation

I already talked about this but this post felt tonally off, too worried about perception of themself

In post 162, Sha 77 wrote:The tone was faked, Cakezy

What do you hate about that reaction? You think those observations were serious?

Immediately dives on me to try to get me to change my mind

In post 396, Sha 77 wrote:I like the Ydrasse/tris/Sha townbloc, and honestly, I think Ali's suspicions come from a place of good faith too

really hate this attempt to declare a townblock

In post 399, Sha 77 wrote:Why is what gross, Cakez? Why aren't I just town who's happy with a townbloc that has me and someone who's likely town in it?

Immediately dives on me to try to get me to change my mind, again. I believe I'm the only one expressing suspicion of Sha too.

I don't know I can't point to many specific posts on ISO. but I just don't like the tone of many posts. it feels a little too "un-serious" in a very intentional and manufactured way. as opposed to Pooky's whose silliness I buy more.

Like actually what the fuck is going on here

1. How does "I already talked about this but this post felt tonally off, too worried about perception of themself" and then "The tone was faked, Cakezy" not refute the concern here.
2. How the fuck is "What do you hate about that reaction? You think those observations were serious?" him trying to get you to change your mind. ITS A FUCKING QUESTION.
3. "really hate this attempt to declare a townblock" WHO FUCKING CARES. LITERALLY COMES FROM ANY ALIGNMENT
4. "Why is what gross, Cakez? Why aren't I just town who's happy with a townbloc that has me and someone who's likely town in it?" HOW THE FUCK IS THIS TRYING TO GET CAKEZ TO CAHNGE HIS MIND IT'S JUST ASKING HIM WHY THE FUCK HE'S DOING THAT BECAUSE CAKEZ WON'T EXPLAIN ANYTHING AND REFUSES TO BE TRANSPARENT. HE'S ASKING YOU WHY SO THAT ITS EASIER TO SORT WHAT ALIGNMENT IS MISREADING HIM. HOW IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN SOMEONE ASKS SOMEONE WHY, ITS NOT TO CHANGE THEIR FUCKING MIND, ITS TO FUCKING EXPLAIN THEMSELVES

- STILL NOTHING ON WHY ANDRES IS SCUMMY BTW
- AND NOTHING WHY ME PUMPING UP ANDRES IS SUS EITHER


I don't understand how any of the above actually happens btw.

In post 813, Flea The Magician wrote:Ye gods sorry but you are a toxic beastie of a being.

Don't wanna go back and read my reasoning, find, don't wanna ask me about, fine, but at least keep some dignity and

try

for some post consistency.

I genuinely don't know what your reads are except "EVERYBODY HATES ME!" - which for the record is a self fulfilling prophecy. No matter which alignment you are, you're now being openly disruptive and anti-town.

In post 0, Isis wrote:Be civil to other players. Criticize play, not players. As one rule of thumb, negative nouns or profane adjectives that describe a player will start strikes against you; describing actions of a player will not.

In post 812, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 811, SirCakez wrote:

In post 808, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 807, SirCakez wrote:You think Alisae turning on you is enough to toss your "near certain" scumread from earlier?

I can’t with you.

I meant townread on Alisae here sorry

My reaction was with town read in that sentence. I understood what you meant. I’m still flabbergasted by your comment.

In post 842, Alisae wrote:I think I want to leave someone else out that's not Andres.

In post 843, Sha 77 wrote:I'll read up and try and get back into this tonight

Usually promises like these are never met but I'll put my name as Sha 77 on the line, and I have a reputation to uphold

In post 675, Sha 77 wrote:

In post 439, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 160, SirCakez wrote:Sha77 may legitimately be scum
Their opening was tonally weird and I hate this reaction

This just seemed too overconfident for me. Like you’re trying to get into a fight and not solve someone’s alignment. Sha said their early reads, which clearly were meant more as conversation starters than definitive pronouncements backed by multiple pages of play, weren’t actually all that serious (which again just seems reasonable to me since it’s the early part of the game). Yet you “hate” the reaction? What I would ask you is how do you not think this is a bit over the top?

I skimmed through some of your more recent posts - and now you’re constructing a universe for the game where I’m Scum because I thought maybe you pushed an argument a bit too far? Please. Unfortunately there’s an aggressiveness to it that I need to figure out where exactly it’s coming from, and whether it’s Scummy or not.

I wouldn’t vote to heal you, that’s for sure.

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- Feels like he's concerned about Cakez scumreading him so is explaining why he said what he said and is attempting to change his mind

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- Feels the need to clarify he's not healing Cakez under any circumstances - why clarify this? It just feels tonally off

Admittedly, I'm struggling to articulate what feels

scummy

about this exactly, but it just feels off

pedit: I scumread you, Andres, but I'm not incapable of changing my mind if I'm wrong

In post 860, Isis wrote:{Ydrasse, tris, Alisae, Infinity 324, PookyTheMagicalBear} (3) - Flea the Magician, Alisae, Andresvmb

In post 836, Alisae wrote:

In post 792, Andresvmb wrote:There’s Scum in the group that’ll likely be pushed (and I clearly mean Ydrasse’s group because Sha’s group is awful and should never go through)

wait if there's scum in ydra's group why should sha's group never go through? that doesn't make sense

In post 847, tris wrote:ok, but now your making a defense that applies to your own push on infinity?

In post 861, SirCakez wrote:ok well that doesn't make any sense to me

In post 862, SirCakez wrote:Andres is still clearly the best to leave out

In post 864, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 860, Isis wrote:{Ydrasse, tris, Alisae, Infinity 324, PookyTheMagicalBear} (3) - Flea the Magician, Alisae, Andresvmb

I guess the team can't be Flea/Andres since they'd auto-lose if this goes thru right?

In post 867, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 861, SirCakez wrote:ok well that doesn't make any sense to me

Then I’ll explain it. I run through all my reads, and your instinct is to make a comment that’s just dismissive of the whole thing without trying to think through it. It’s not in good faith. So I’m not going to spend too much time trying to interact with you. If you have real questions I can help. Otherwise, not interested.

Andresvmb wrote:

In post 862, SirCakez wrote:Andres is still clearly the best to leave out

You should vote to make it happen then. After that, you only need 1 more vote to leave me out.

In post 870, SirCakez wrote:I'm already voting this I thought

In post 748, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:sheeping hectic