Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:31 am
I'm cop/trackerIn post 848, T3 wrote:NM please just claim cop/tracker.
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:51 am
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:23 am
Which one?In post 850, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm cop/trackerIn post 848, T3 wrote:NM please just claim cop/tracker.
If you have a guilty please out it.
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:26 am
I was just acquiescing to your request
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:16 am
Would you be willing to vote Pavowski?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:23 am
So I now retract my previous statement that I think Zyla slot and Pavowski could be the team in light of T3’s debut. To me, looking at deadline and all, it comes down to T3 or Pavowski. I don’t have Pavowski as a lock town or anything but I find T3 scummier. I would love to hear from Umlaut on this matter if he can be around. You said you wanted to try Pavowski because the NM read makes sense. Would you still rather do Pavowski than T3 in light of the last few pages?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:08 am
In post 849, Lukewarm wrote:Not Mafia, are you town reading the t3/zyla slot?
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:22 am
Mostly AFK today. I still somewhat prefer Pav to T3 but not by much and mostly because, as Luke pointed out, T3 always acts approximately this erratically and it's hard to confidently scumread it. I do need to revisit my old Zyla read and decide if I still agree with it.
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:06 am
I don't know that I would say always, because this is a recent change for T3In post 857, Umlaut wrote:as Luke pointed out, T3 always acts approximately this erratically and it's hard to confidently scumread it.
Just 2 months ago, it was like he had like a completely different playstyle. He was not erratic in this way, and I found his town playstyle to be townie, and when I got a town read on him, I would go out of my way to defend his slot. (See this game: Open 815)
I really liked playing with the old-playstyle-T3, and I don't know what inspired him to change his playstyle to what it is now...
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:12 am
Because everyone but you scumread me.In post 858, Lukewarm wrote:I don't know that I would say always, because this is a recent change for T3In post 857, Umlaut wrote:as Luke pointed out, T3 always acts approximately this erratically and it's hard to confidently scumread it.
Just 2 months ago, it was like he had like a completely different playstyle. He was not erratic in this way, and I found his town playstyle to be townie, and when I got a town read on him, I would go out of my way to defend his slot. (See this game: Open 815)
I really liked playing with the old-playstyle-T3, and I don't know what inspired him to change his playstyle to what it is now...
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:55 am
whats so scummy about him..? i don't really see anythingIn post 846, Not_Mafia wrote:Marci vote pavowski
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:26 am
UNVOTE: T3
Marci, regarding your read on T3:
Marci, regarding your read on T3:
If Not_Mafia was crumbing a PR, then what do you think of Luke's argument for the VT/PR massclaim? In that case, even if maf didn't catch onto it, wouldn't it be a nonissue?In post 844, marcistar wrote:scumread. t3 is a bit tricky to read, but i dont like how he was saying not_mafia was crumbing a pr > if maf didnt catch onto it, its just helping them. i dont think a townies would do that.t3 -
i also didn't have a good read on zyla either because of her posts, it didn't really look like she was trying to solve imo.
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:49 am
i dont agree with lukes argument for that,In post 861, alstroemerial wrote:If Not_Mafia was crumbing a PR, then what do you think of Luke's argument for the VT/PR massclaim?
even tho he said "it forces maf to make a decision", maf will easily work around that and just kill off prs. > based on what the pr claims have said throughtout the game, maf just might be able to deduce what role they are from subconscious tells. it could be leaving us too wide open yknow?
also it just makes the game pretty solved, which ruins the fun of trying to solve it >.<
outing whoIn post 861, alstroemerial wrote:In that case, even if maf didn't catch onto it, wouldn't it be a nonissue?
might
be a pr is still be an issue imo depending on which setup we're in.Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:06 am
Pretty sure that T3 is wrong that Not_Mafia was crumbing a pr.In post 861, alstroemerial wrote:If Not_Mafia was crumbing a PR
T3 appears to be think that Not_Mafia's push on me was because Not_mafia had a guilty on me, which. No, he doesn't
But that, is the only reason for him to post this I think
UNVOTE:In post 816, T3 wrote:I have a theoretical investigative result that may incriminate Lukewarm.
If t3 is fucking town this game, I am going to scream
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:12 am
T3, NM can't wait to vote for Luke or me, he just wants to be the hammer:
Meanwhile, your (t3) call for massclaim as a ploy to test Luke or take the fall for NM or -- whatever all that was -- smells, and 838 feels just designed to make your slot unreadable.
He's doing the same to me as he was doing to Luke to start today, pressuring other people to vote me while withholding his own vote. He had more than enough opportunity to hammer T3 though.In post 718, Not_Mafia wrote:So I can hammer him laterIn post 717, Pavowski wrote:Interestingly NM calls for us to elim Luke today but isn't actually voting him now, either.
Meanwhile, your (t3) call for massclaim as a ploy to test Luke or take the fall for NM or -- whatever all that was -- smells, and 838 feels just designed to make your slot unreadable.
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:22 am
Sorry all, I said I'd take a closer look at the thread but it was a late night for me and a long one at work today. I'm trying to find the energy to post more in depth but I'm kinda scraping bottom right now. Need to get some food down my neck and I'll circle back.
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:26 pm
I have actually talked myself out of the T3 vote. Basically in 863.
T3 saw Not_Mafia pushing me right out the gate, and his first thought appears to be that Not_Mafia had a guilty result on me. Obviously, scum would never have that thought, because they would know that he could not get a guilty on me, and this also does not seem like and angle scum would take.
So, this might just be bad town play....
VOTE: Not_Mafia
T3 saw Not_Mafia pushing me right out the gate, and his first thought appears to be that Not_Mafia had a guilty result on me. Obviously, scum would never have that thought, because they would know that he could not get a guilty on me, and this also does not seem like and angle scum would take.
So, this might just be bad town play....
VOTE: Not_Mafia
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:11 pm
Anyway, to think a little harder about this I'm not sure anybody else should claim at this point. The Val NK only really makes sense in light of PR-hunting as I think Umlaut pointed out, unless this is Luke pulling a galaxy brain play. And I don't buy that.
For me, I think it makes sense to wait another day for claims. We'll be at 5 tomorrow (or who knows, maybe 6). If we don't reveal, there's a decent chance we don't lose a PR tonight. I'm just not in favor of revealing the PRs and doing scum's work for them.
PEdit: Luke makes a good point about what T3 could've known. Makes that entrance a bit less scummy than I originally thought
For me, I think it makes sense to wait another day for claims. We'll be at 5 tomorrow (or who knows, maybe 6). If we don't reveal, there's a decent chance we don't lose a PR tonight. I'm just not in favor of revealing the PRs and doing scum's work for them.
PEdit: Luke makes a good point about what T3 could've known. Makes that entrance a bit less scummy than I originally thought
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:15 pm
The only time I've seen NM hard push another player was when he had an effective guilty.In post 866, Lukewarm wrote:I have actually talked myself out of the T3 vote. Basically in 863.
T3 saw Not_Mafia pushing me right out the gate, and his first thought appears to be that Not_Mafia had a guilty result on me. Obviously, scum would never have that thought, because they would know that he could not get a guilty on me, and this also does not seem like and angle scum would take.
So, this might just be bad town play....
VOTE: Not_Mafia
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:44 pm
I hard disagree with this. I compiled this earlier, but like, look at how he pushed these people in our prior games. Both times Not_Mafia was a Vanilla Townie, so clearly making a push does not require a PR resultIn post 868, T3 wrote:The only time I've seen NM hard push another player was when he had an effective guilty.
In post 455, Lukewarm wrote:
Actually every single time Not_Mafia mentioned Bingle in Micro 1010, before Bingle was the Day 1 Elim
Spoiler:
Actually every single time Not_Mafia mentioned Drap in Open 810, before Drap was the Day 1 Elim
Spoiler:
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:44 pm
And you were in Open 810...
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:46 pm
I didn't take open 810 into account.
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:18 am
In post 851, ArcAngel9 wrote:Countdown: 1 day, 14 hours, 22 minutes
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:20 am
/Okay T3. Do you think I am scum?
If you do not think that I am town, then that would mean that Not_Mafia is not crumbing an investigative PR, right?
If you stop thinking Not_Mafia is an investigative PR, flush that idea from your head, what do you make of his iso this game?
If you do not think that I am town, then that would mean that Not_Mafia is not crumbing an investigative PR, right?
If you stop thinking Not_Mafia is an investigative PR, flush that idea from your head, what do you make of his iso this game?
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:55 am
I think NM is effort towny, even assuming not an inveatigative.
You had a good reaction to the guilty.
You had a good reaction to the guilty.