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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:39 am
by Thor Ragnarok
In post 465, Bee wrote:
In post 456, Titus wrote:I like Ydrasse as town lol
I don't think you've ever TR me so I went 'yay' IRL :3
Pourkay

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:40 am
by Something_Smart
That's what you townread her for?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:41 am
by Thor Ragnarok
Maybe

Explaining gut is hard

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:42 am
by Something_Smart
Wouldn't the most natural scum response to be relieved and the most natural town response to be suspicious?

(Not the only response, of course, but in my experience scum are generally happy to get townread even when it's not deserved, whereas I as town in that situation might be concerned that Titus was fabricating reads.)

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:46 am
by House
I'm liking Thor, Titus, the worst, and H+H as town, off the top of my head.

I don't see Titus trying to talk me down off Gamma as scum. It would be easier and completely justifiable to just jump on my wagon on policy.

I like H+H's efforting. His push on me does not feel like it's loaded with an agenda.

the worst is my shakiest townread, but i wouldn't vote there today at any rate.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:48 am
by House
In post 853, Something_Smart wrote:Wouldn't the most natural scum response to be relieved and the most natural town response to be suspicious?

(Not the only response, of course, but in my experience scum are generally happy to get townread even when it's not deserved, whereas I as town in that situation might be concerned that Titus was fabricating reads.)
Scum often question empty townreads. It gives them more credibility, and if the other player provides reasons after their question, it bolsters the read for others to sheep.

I've done it many times, and seen it done many times.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:54 am
by Enchant
In post 847, Thor Ragnarok wrote:
In post 831, Thor Ragnarok wrote:Long for midnight by voting miss midnight
Enchanting?
Yes, but no.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:23 am
by Datisi
vote count 1.10

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-09-03 17:20:00).


yeet
House [4]:
ManateeGal, Gamma Emerald, PenguinPower, Harvey and Haley
Thor Ragnarok [4]:
Miss Midnight, Cat Scratch Fever, the worst, Titus
Miss Midnight [2]:
Thor Ragnarok, Bee
Gamma Emerald [1]:
House
Cat Scratch Fever [1]:
Enchant
Harvey and Haley [1]:
Flea The Magician

not voting [1]:
Something_Smart


mod notes~ dual mod iso


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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:31 am
by Thor Ragnarok
Town have the habit of refreshing and checking the thread at a rate far more frequent than scum. This is because the interest for solving the game can often be far higher than scum's desire to lie. Some scum can also be scared of opinions of their posts after they post, and may even close the thread entirely for some time, while town will eagerly refresh the page to hear opinions on what they've just posted.

I've been rereading the thread and I had an idea. There's a phenomenon on this site known as page topping, often conjoined to one word as such; PageTopping.

This phenomenon results in players wanting to score the top post of new pages. The top post of each page are divisible by 25, so post 500 would be a PageTop, and so would post 975.

Now, the interesting thing about these PageTops are that you can only perform them if you are present on the page and see the opportunity for one arise. To be present on the page, you must have refreshed it recently.

See where I'm going with this? In addition to town being more able to efficiently perform PageTops, they are also just more active on average, and will naturally land more PageTops over time. This results in town scoring far more PageTops on average than scum.

Here's the data:

Datisi
xxxxxxxx

PenguinPower
xxxxxxx

the worst
xxx

Harvey and Haley
xxx

Cat Scratch Fever
xx

Thor Ragnarok
xx

House
xx

Gamma Emerald
xx

Flea The Magician
x

Enchant
x

Miss Midnight
x

Titus
x

Bee
x

GeorgeBailey
x

Something_Smart
ManateeGal

I'll compile this with my data on the number analysis later to create a combined reads list.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:32 am
by Something_Smart
Fwiw I intentionally avoid pagetops because they lose the context of the post

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:34 am
by House
Stop undermining my townread of you, Thor.

Activity is not necessarily alignment indicative, it's also playstyle and/or circumstance indicative.

That's trash logic.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:35 am
by Enchant
Thor is smartest person in this game.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:35 am
by House
In other news, Thor has proven that the mod is town, so that's nice i guess.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:36 am
by Something_Smart
In post 860, House wrote:That's trash logic.
Is this why it undermines your townread?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:37 am
by House
In post 863, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 860, House wrote:That's trash logic.
Is this why it undermines your townread?
No.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:38 am
by Something_Smart
Why, then?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:38 am
by Bee
In post 861, Enchant wrote:Thor is smartest person in this game.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:39 am
by House
In post 865, Something_Smart wrote:Why, then?
He posted a wall of text in what looks like an effort to be productive without actually contributing to the game.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:41 am
by Something_Smart
Did it not bother you the first four times he did that?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:42 am
by Something_Smart
Also, if it's an effort to be productive, even if it fails at that, what's wrong with it?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:42 am
by Titus
Enchant + Thor is a great place to start.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:43 am
by Something_Smart
And Thor you do know you can directly check how many posts each person has, right? Using pagetops as a proxy is both harder and less precise

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:44 am
by House
In post 868, Something_Smart wrote:Did it not bother you the first four times he did that?
That shit was setup spec.

I'm less than clueless about setup spec in this game.

Activity theorizing, however, I'm very familiar with. I'm a spammy motherfucker as either alignment and have always been that way, so it's something i see a lot of discussion about.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:46 am
by House
In post 869, Something_Smart wrote:Also, if it's an effort to be productive, even if it fails at that, what's wrong with it?
Sim doesn't have motive to contribute to the game, but they have motive to APPEAR to contribute to the game.

Not that one post flips my read of him, it's just disappointing.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:46 am
by House
In post 873, House wrote:
In post 869, Something_Smart wrote:Also, if it's an effort to be productive, even if it fails at that, what's wrong with it?
Scum doesn't have motive to contribute to the game, but they have motive to APPEAR to contribute to the game.

Not that one post flips my read of him, it's just disappointing.
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