Mini 631 - Mental War Mafia *GAME OVER*

[Voodo]

And someone explain to me: Why exactly is imagin without suspicion? He says he's claimed vanilla. Either he or Rabbit is scum, and I'm thinking it's him. He votes me without even saying why.

Unvote, vote: Imaginality

Not OMGUS, I legitimately think you're scum.

[Timeater]

All right, Erg0 was scum!! KNEW IT!!

Way too enthusiastic. Comes off a little phony. Voodo, explain this:

I redirected Rabbit, but Mariyta still manages to die. Now, if Rabbit was scum, is it just random dumb luck that they still managed to kill a cop? Thats a 1/6 chance. Little convienent. And if it turns you are town, I'll just target Rabbit again tonight and we'll hammer him tomorrow. Town has this locked down, bitches

[Timeater]

To me, Imagin isn't scum because he has played a solid, solid townie game. I have tested him multiple times and he's showed an unwavering stance through the days. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. Its a common strategy of mine to befriend one person in a game, because you have to be able to trust at least one person no matter whats going - but you also have to keep a close eye on them. Imagin is that person to me in this game. I will defend him religiously because I think he's played a much more solid game than either Voodo or Rabbit.

Voodo, you pointing the finger at Rabbit and Imagin seem to be acts of desperation.

[Voodo]

Well, of course I'm desperate, I'm a townie about to get lynched.

And I was one of the only ones who stayed with Erg0 throughout the whole second day.

If none of the rest of us are scum, then it's rabbit.

Unvote, vote: Rabbit

Now you'll say I'm flip-flopping, but I have a legitimate reason to. Rabbit is probably laughing his head off at you guys. What if he has another life, like Erg0 did, or something similar, like being able to mess with the votes? He's the scum, I tell you.

[Timeater]

I redirected Rabbit, but Mariyta still manages to die. Now, if Rabbit was scum, is it just random dumb luck that they still managed to kill a cop? Thats a 1/6 chance. Little convienent.

You aren't answering that. Thats the only reason I'm not voting Rabbit right now.

If you're town, Rabbit will be redirected tonight, possibly back on himself, also making the hit on me or maxwell randomized.

[imaginality]

Timeater, what do you think of max's claim that he was targeted last night? If that's true (and I think we have to regard max as confirmed, since I definitely received medicine the previous night), and if max's medicine killed Mariyta (makes some sense since the other three medicines all seem to have been either neutral or good, so would not be surprising for one to be bad), then the scum tried to night kill max.

In that scenario, would you be more likely to think it was a redirected Rabbit rather than Voodo making that kill attempt?

[Timeater]

That scenario is plausible, and I've been giving it some thought. The whole "medicine just now activing at the most oppurtune time to save the doc" is a bit of a stretch though. If thats the case, and maxwell was targetted (a good target, doc) then we would have to assume that the targeter wasn't hit by an randomization process. So we have to ask ourselves, what is the stronger line of logic?

1. Voodo targets Mariyta, a claimed cop, hoping maxwell couldn't interfere, or that somehow a medicine would not work. Rabbit is excluded from scum selection because if he had any night processes, they were randomized. And the probability of randomly killing a cop is low. This isn't taking into account Max's info.

2. Rabbit's target is randomized, but hits Maxwellhouse, a claimed doctor. Maxwellhouse is miraculously saved by some medicine that got redirected back on to himself at random turn 1, the chances of that being 1/10. Or something ELSE happened last night we aren't yet aware of.

I'm still leaning towards Voodo, but I want to hear from Rabbit before we hammer. Voodo is at -1 from lynch.

[imaginality]

I agree 2 is statistically speaking unlikely. It's just very hard to make sense of maxwellhouse's claim to have been targeted for a kill and saved by medicine otherwise.

Rabbit said he'll be away until the weekend, so I'll

Unvote

for now, just so we definitely have a chance to hear from him before we hammer.

[maxwellhouse]

no, i don't think i just received my medicine tonight, which is the weird thing. the message told me i was targeted for a night kill, but i had received a medicine which saved me. the way it was worded made it seem like i had it but i was only aware of it when i was targeted? or something. i'm not completely sure. but i think it gave me some pretty good benefits too.. i'm not completely sure though. i guess we will see tonight?

and at voodo, the medicines don't have names because i don't know what they do.

right now, i am leaning toward voodo also... i think imaginality is mostly clear because of the medicine thing, which i don't think scum would want to clear another person like i said before. though i do think raging rabbits should come and discuss.

[Timeater]

So are we just waiting around for Rabbit?

[Voodo]

I guess.

[imaginality]

Since it looks like it's between you and Rabbit for today's lynch, Voodo, while we're waiting for Rabbit to return, maybe you can sum up the reasons why we should think Rabbit is more likely to be scum rather than you (or vice versa, reasons why we should think you're more likely to be town)?

[Timeater]

This is bullshit, Rabbit should have found a replacement. *rage*

[imaginality]

Ah, I guess we could just lynch Voodo already. Or Rabbit for that matter. We're pretty sure it's one or the other, let's just pick one and lynch them.

Vote: Raging Rabbit

His posts yesterday seem more scummy than Voodo's.

[imaginality]

EBWOP: But Timeater and max, if you both prefer a Voodo lynch, I'm happy to hammer him. We lynch the other one tomorrow if we get the wrong one today. Waiting around sucks.

[Timeater]

I feel more comfortable with a Voodo lynch. Makes sense that he would go after Maxwell during the night. If he's town we can just lynch Rabbit tomorrow.

[maxwellhouse]

i can't really tell right now. voodo has the "i'm not around much" excuse, but he seems very... trying to seem pro-town i guess. like being dramatic about erg0 being scum. but yeah, voodo, what makes you less suspicious than raging rabbits?

then again, raging rabbits was defending erg0 a lot, and at the end he finally admitted that it would be a decent lynch for erg0, when he was for sure about to be lynched.

discussing-wise, i find voodo more suspicious. but rabbits defending erg0 for so long and then giving up at the last minute.. that is pretty suspicious. i'd really like for him to explain.

about waiting, it's only 3 days. he'll be back soon.

[imaginality]

maxwellhouse, want to break the tie? You said you're leaning towards Voodo?

[imaginality]

Sorry, cross-posted.

So you want to hear from Rabbit before deciding... that's fair enough. So we wait...

[Nocmen]

An hour into the morning, Doctor's begin to fear the worst, planning their full plan for the final attempt at saving Vals and his mind. However, even their own details can not be released at all.

Takeover progress:

With 5 sectors still moving, it will take the coordinated progress of 3 to finalize takeover and extermination.

Voodo - 1 (Timeater, )
Raging Rabbit - 2(Voodo, imaginality)


Not Voting - 2(Raging Rabbit,maxwellhouse)

[Voodo]

Sorry I couldn't post last night, was busy...again.

Anyway, Rabbits was taking Erg0's side pretty much the whole time and then just giving up at the end...trying to get us to believe him. As I said before, I can't prove I'm town. I don't have a night action. My best defense would be that I had kept my vote on Erg0 throughout the whole day yesterday (the reason for my elation at Erg0's revealed scum). I'm not going to BS it and make up reasons why I should be innocent, like Ashmite or Erg0. I'm telling the truth. I am the cerebellum and I am a vanilla townie.

[Timeater]

Okay.

You know, I would just *love* Rabbit to be scum. I would love that so much it would just make my day. Rabbit, you lost the courtesy for me wait for you to speak when you did not bother finding yourself a replacement. If this has been a scum hiding-not-posting tactic, well shame on you. Think of it this way, if Voodo bit the bullet instead of you today, it was going to be you tomorrow anyway. Here goes nothing.

Unvote

Vote: Rabbit

[Voodo]

Thank you, Timeater. Believe me, you will not regret your decision.

[maxwellhouse]

i don't think it's fair to lynch him when he hasn't even been able to defend himself. yeah, he's gone but sometimes you can't help things.

Thank you, Timeater. Believe me, you will not regret your decision.

no sucking up to people please =P

[Timeater]

Tough, he should have got a replacement (or Noc should have replaced). Being gone for a week without one is unforgivable. And its been a day, still no update?