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In post 378, RH wrote:

Day 1 Count X

Ircher

(E-3) - NorwegianboyEE, RCEnigma

the worst

(E-3) - Wallflower, Toogeloo

NorwegianboyEE

(E-4) - Ircher

Someting_Smart

(E-4) - MegAzumarill

Tracer Bullet

(E-4) - the worst

Wallflower

(E-4) - Tracer Bullet

Not Voting

- Something_Smart

Notes

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• With 9 remaining, it takes 5 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-04-14 19:26:23).

btw this is the game state when I started doing stuff ^

You see this vote count?

the highest votes on a player is (2) and it's 2 votes each for each mason and a bunch of scattered 1 votes.

there is literally 0 threat to anyone who could possibly be scum.

I have no reason to do anything as scum in this game state because like I don't give a fuck what happens when no scum are under anything resembling a threat.

I can just let the clock run out and I usually do because why stick your neck out and try to push the game state foward when nothing is happening and no scum are under threat?

I decide to vote/push Ircher who is townreading me

this literally makes 0 sense for scum!me to do.


Here this is from angela(shiki) in a different game with me describing how to read me and my ethos as scum:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13304997


It is extremely accurate about how I approach mafia

Hmm i want to rebel against the game again cus i feel like this hits town.
But if Tracer is scum i’m gonna feel like a dick for white knighting them two days in a row.
This just sucks.
Plz nobody hammer i need to like… actually hard analyze Pooky but i need dinner first.

I think Tracer is putting a lot more effort into defending themselves and proving their innocece than actually trying to solve the game, which is very much at odds with the repeated "I don't care if i'm limmed" mantra.

I get where you're at Norwe, but I think this is more likely to hit scum than any other vote atm.

I do not care if I get limmed it is a reflection on the poor play of the town that limmed me.

I do care if I get limmed without putting in the effort to defend myself because I will not have fulfilled my basic responsibility to this town to try not to get limmed.

In post 852, Wallflower wrote:I think Tracer is putting a lot more effort into defending themselves and proving their innocece than actually trying to solve the game, which is very much at odds with the repeated "I don't care if i'm limmed" mantra.

Today opened with a conftown player calling for me to die.

My primary priority for today is to convince this conftown player not to push for me to be eliminated

this is because I am town and avoiding town eliminations is part of what being town is about.

Ircher does not have the time to talk and sort me in real time.

I have been available for a lot of time to talk to him.

Instead he takes like 1 day + to reply to me and I reply to him almost immediately.

That is a reflection of the time he is willing to spend on this game.

That's fine. in the end of the day he has to live with himself not me.

I think perhaps it is just not a good fit for me to play with people who don't post and aren't online to talk very much.

I just have much more time than most of you to actually be here.

I would be happy to be eliminated.

It would be one less thing for me to be obligated to do.

but until I am eliminated I am going to fulfill my obligations.

Notice for example very few people actually talk to me about things that matter.

like what do you think of player ___

what is your read of player ___

like even if you in your mind have locked me as scum, does it not behoove you to ask me questions in order to figure out who my partner is?

no

there is no interest in it.

You are all extremely lazy

I am being unpleasant.

I should be nice and nod and just let you kill me.

It would be the nicer thing to do.

I hate obligations.

They are like an anchor.

I sincerely mean it when I say I will be very happy if you just hammer me here so I do not have to keep playing.

I detest the laziness of this town.

I just want to say again that none of what I say should be viewed as an insult to your character or person.

There is more than one way to play this game. I simply do not like the way it is being done here. That is my own personal opinion.

You are all lovely people and I have enjoyed talking with each and every one of you.

In post 860, Tracer Bullet wrote:I just want to say again that none of what I say should be viewed as an insult to your character or person.

There is more than one way to play this game. I simply do not like the way it is being done here. That is my own personal opinion.

You are all lovely people and I have enjoyed talking with each and every one of you.

Thanks Tracer. I have also enjoyed your presence in this game.

I truly believe that we are on opposite teams here, which makes it hard, but I look forward to an opportunity in the future where the cards may fall differently.

In post 849, Wallflower wrote:Going back to this, I’m interested in why you want to kill Tracer or Toog today.

Oh. Because the vote movement near the end of day 1 seems pretty critical and it's impossible to make sense of without knowing the alignment of either of them.

And because having them crossvoting in lylo would be an absolute nightmare

In post 826, Ircher wrote:I think the two have an 80% chance of 1 scum among them based on the timing and forming of the Meg wagon.

You're saying you just think it's tracer then. Toog wasn't a part of the flash wagon.

In post 862, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 849, Wallflower wrote:Going back to this, I’m interested in why you want to kill Tracer or Toog today.

Oh. Because the vote movement near the end of day 1 seems pretty critical and it's impossible to make sense of without knowing the alignment of either of them.

this is an interesting take from SS because when I asked him yesterday who he wanted to vote for between Tracer/Tooge he said niether and he wanted to wagon on Meg or ___ instead.

Yes. I like to think that my resistance was part of what made the critical vote movements happen.

In post 851, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Hmm i want to rebel against the game again cus i feel like this hits town.
But if Tracer is scum i’m gonna feel like a dick for white knighting them two days in a row.
This just sucks.
Plz nobody hammer i need to like… actually hard analyze Pooky but i need dinner first.

also I just wanted to say something about this post.

I'm not sure what common parlance is but in my experience "White Knight" refers to a mafia player defending a town player for towncred.

That is the usual use of it, but I can see what he meant metaphorically.

In post 867, Tracer Bullet wrote:

In post 851, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Hmm i want to rebel against the game again cus i feel like this hits town.
But if Tracer is scum i’m gonna feel like a dick for white knighting them two days in a row.
This just sucks.
Plz nobody hammer i need to like… actually hard analyze Pooky but i need dinner first.

also I just wanted to say something about this post.

I'm not sure what common parlance is but in my experience "White Knight" refers to a mafia player defending a town player for towncred.

A town player defending a mafia player can be white knighting in my vocabulary.
Even a town player defending another town player can be white knighting. Especially if it's an slot that has done extremely scummy stuff and would prob be better dead.

Semantics!
The best part of mafia.

In post 857, Tracer Bullet wrote:Notice for example very few people actually talk to me about things that matter.

like what do you think of player ___

what is your read of player ___

like even if you in your mind have locked me as scum, does it not behoove you to ask me questions in order to figure out who my partner is?

no

there is no interest in it.

I am still here to talk about reads if anyone actually wants to like try to play the game.

Can you talk about why you think the player you are voting is mafia?

Cus like, i think i’m starting to understand what some people are getting at.
You have been talking a LOT about yourself, like taking all of your post lately it seems like you are being very self-absorbed rather than focusing on you know. Why it’s a good idea for town to vote the people you allegefly scumread. But that seems to be second priority for you right now.
So could you just expand a bit on why voting Toog is a good idea? I’m assuming they are your main scumread since that’s who you are voting at this point?