Mini 692: Boost Mafia (Game Over!)

[icemanE]

Why did you switch your vote over so quickly after only hearing Huntress's claim?

Because huntress was willing to claim instead of fighting it, which says something to me.

I asked RR why I shouldn't boost him because I want to know.

[vollkan]

Okay, my reread.

For the benefit of those who haven't played with me before, I rank players

behaviour

on a system from 0-100, 0 being absolute town and 100 being absolute scum. 50 is the default and means "I don't see a preponderance of towntells or scumtells". 50 does not mean "no opinion"/"ambivalent"/etc.

12: sthar8 suggests MC. Almost as a rule, theme games are made so that MC is not a game-breaking strategy; and it surprises me that sthar8 doesn't seem to pay any heed to this risk at all.
15: Not sure why iLord votes Eld for boosting Electra. (Are "unboosts" possible?)
27: In making a valid point about Electra's argument, Skillit presumes that Electra could only have been hasty because of a "thirst for power" or a "thirst for power and blood". He doesn't address the very real objective prospect of it simply being an omission by Electra, or Electra reasonably presuming that scum couldn't start powerless (because that would make a game very hard for scum). More importantly, Electra didn't even say that there could only be scum without power. She just said that mafia, if boosted, would probably get bonuses (+1)
28: Crazy posts and makes no comment on the MC suggestion, despite commenting on the Electra boost, thus making it clear he has read. (+1)
45: SKill makes a massive backpedal from his previous point on Electra. He doesn't repudiate his argument - instead he says he is thorough and that Electra's mistake is no definite tell and he was just being jokey. When, in fact, his previous post made it very clear that he was attributing Electra's actions intentionality. (+2)

2) Green Crayons (replacing Mana_Ku who replaced Skillit) - 53
3) Raging Rabbit - 50
5) TDC - 50
6) Huntress (replacing Crazy) - 51
7) Incognito - 50
8) eldarad - 50
9) Xtoxm (replacing sthar8) - 50
12) icemanE (replacing RandomGem who replaced fuzzylightning) - 50

[vollkan]

EBWOP: Obviously, that isn't the complete reread

[Raging Rabbit]

Why did you switch your vote over so quickly after only hearing Huntress's claim?

Because huntress was willing to claim instead of fighting it, which says something to me.

I asked RR why I shouldn't boost him because I want to know.

I never said you shouldn't boost me. I said boosting *anyone* for no stated reason and then switching to the popular target after being questioned about it is way scummy. Why did you boost me? Why did you unboost me to boost Incog? Why did you not supply us with any of the info we've asked you to?

[Xtoxm]

Why are we boosting Incog? I'm not somfortable with that.

Are we allowed to boost the same person again?

[Raging Rabbit]

Incog made a claim that makes a lot of sense about starting as a one shot vig, with a boost likely giving him additional "bullets". We want to test that. Plus, he's a very unlikely buddy for Jahudo.

Were allowed to boost twice, but according to electra any further boosts after that will have no effect.

[Xtoxm]

But we'd know we aren't hitting maf.

[Xtoxm]

And I figure you're all suspicious of me, but from the way my PM's worded I think I can be boosted again.

[Xtoxm]

Anyway my vote goes to

Boost Elderad

[Green Crayons]

Care to explain why?

Preferably within the scope of a single post instead of six or so strung together?

[Xtoxm]

Cos he looks most town to me behind Electra, who i'm basically convinced is town.

[Raging Rabbit]

What makes him look pro town?

[Xtoxm]

I don't know! My towndar told me!

[Incognito]

Why did you switch your vote over so quickly after only hearing Huntress's claim?

Because huntress was willing to claim instead of fighting it, which says something to me.

Um. Comparing Jahudo's "willingness to claim" with Huntress's reveals no real difference to me:

Incognito has asked me to claim. I'd rather avoid doing so unless absolutely necessary but if I will if I need to.

It's <48 hours before deadline. I don't see how you think waiting until you claim is going to help the town at all.

Because I'm still hoping it won't prove necessary. The only ones asking me to claim so far are my two top suspects. I'd rather wait until I hear what others have to say than give further information at the request of those I think most likely to be scum.

I'm not to fond of Jahudo asking the town's permission re: 675.

I would claim if I got to L-1 and someone not on my wagon said they'd vote for me, but I wouldn't normally claim before that time. The problem is I might not have internet access if that were to happen right before the deadline tomorrow.

Similarly I'm voting for Huntress because it's the only other viable lynch now.

In fact, Jahudo actually claimed

before

Huntress ever did. icemanE, is that really your final answer?

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Xtoxm, have you completely finished your read of the thread? Do you mind giving us some sort of player by player?

[icemanE]

The order isn't important. The timing and reluctance/willingness is. It's not protown to claim right when someone demands that you do it. The most protown time to claim is when it's necessary, and only then.

[Xtoxm]

No i've barely read anything yet. Just got back to Sheff! Exhausted right now, will do a PA shortly...

I was joking on Eld btw, all it was was I liked his reaction to El's claim.

[TDC]

Xtoxm: Any idea which two roles sthar8 thought he could be and why it motivated him to think a mass claim was a good idea D1?

[Xtoxm]

I don't understand.

[Huntress]

Just got a prod. I should have some time tomorrow to get that case up.

[Elmo]

Day 2, Vote Count #4 - Lynching

icemanE (2) <- Raging Rabbit, Green Crayons
Huntress <- Xtoxm
Xtoxm <- Incognito
Raging Rabbit <- eldarad
eldarad <- Huntress

Not voting: Vollkan, TDC, icemanE.

Boost Count

eldarad (2) <- TDC, Xtoxm
TDC <- Raging Rabbit
Raging Rabbit <- Incognito
Vollkan <- Green Crayons

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch/boost. Incognito will be boosted in twilight; you now only have one boost-vote each. Much love to both replacements! Huntress has been prodded.

[TDC]

I don't understand.

Sthar8 mentioned that his role was kind of vague and that he had two thoughts of what his role could actually be. He never shared what these two possibilites he saw were (and whether the double voter was one of them).
Hence, I'm asking whether you have an idea what he could've meant.

[Xtoxm]

To an extent yes, but I don't know what he actually thought they were, but my guess is a good as his.

[Green Crayons]

My next stint of Mafiascum time will be devoted to do select rereads in this game. Hopefully something useful will come up.

[TDC]

To an extent yes, but I don't know what he actually thought they were, but my guess is a good as his.

I thought the implied question was obvious, but anyway: What are these two roles he probably thought he could have? Is one of them the role you actually claim to have? Why do you think did all this make him think a day one mass claim was a good idea?

[Xtoxm]

I can't expand without claiming, really.