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That ending comes off more aggressive than I intend. I just think a lot of people are dumb telling and it’s grinding on me a bit.

I don't think that helps very much in a game where roles are not revealed on death. Also, it's day 2 on a 26 player large theme. Even if we had full flip information, it seems pretty pointless to be discussing it now rather than say day 5 or day 6 when it would be more relevant and useful.
~Cytosine

In post 8641, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:

In post 8046, Rad wrote:

In post 8043, Lukewarm wrote:Does anyone think that there is still a benefit for me to keep my neighbor unmentioned?


Pedit: I think that C+G should reach out to the mod, see what the effect of breaking the limit is/was, and see if it is gonna happen now that it has been revealed, and report back.

STD literally got married over the night phase, so I could see him missing it.

Yeah I mean, sure, he could have missed it. As a wannabe game designer myself, if I made that up I'd be all over counting those words and punishing. Do I do that when it overlaps with my WEDDING? Maybe not lol.

That's only 1 point in the suspicion here though.

Can you talk about the other reasons you suspect us?
~Cytosine

I just meant that the mod potentially missing the count due to wedding just counters 1 point in believing the whole thing is a lie. Tbh if you're not lying about the restriction then you're completely null to me.

Every time I skim through the pages I’ve missed I find a post or two and go hmm that’s a really good point. And it is ALWAYS from Lukewarm. Like dude I get it you are town with good observations, let somebody else try it out q.q

In post 8652, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:I don't think that helps very much in a game where roles are not revealed on death. Also, it's day 2 on a 26 player large theme. Even if we had full flip information, it seems pretty pointless to be discussing it now rather than say day 5 or day 6 when it would be more relevant and useful.
~Cytosine

Like and Pooky will be dead by then. No one else is going to care enough to wade through the rest of the game to come back to this.

In post 8585, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

In post 8300, Dancing Puppets wrote:Dunn was shot N1. He was the first voter on BBT.
~Titus

It's literally right here.

So OTH, you have a problem with ME doing any scum hunting from Dunn's reads but not DP?

I’m back after breaking some stuff down for marci. So let me break this down for everyone:

DP is doing other sorting. BBT is not. That’s why him pushing this line of logic is bad. He is absolutely MADDENED by the scumreads being based on such a point and is tunnel-visioned on smearing as many others as possible.

~GE

In post 8615, JohnnyFarrar wrote: Next I get rid of Math (and by extension c&g), because

I don't think scum math makes the universal scumread POE smaller

when he's so clearly on the chopping block

How did he do this?

If you're referring to the Dunn NK, that's eh because that argument can be applied to anyone, and speculates that there's no other reason for scum to have killed Dunnstral that took precedence.

That's literally what I'm positing

I don't think the reasoning makes sense

If scum thought Dunn was FN, he would have been, by definition, out of the universal scumread pool on day 2. So I don't see how Math can be town from that.

It's looking like maybe Dunn wasn't FN after all, since no one has claimed it, but that's only known after the fact.

I mean, Dunn wasn’t a universal scumread in the first place so it’s a non argument.

In post 8660, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:If scum thought Dunn was FN, he would have been, by definition, out of the universal scumread pool on day 2

Unless they didn't think he was FN

Or they had a RB

Or he targeted one of them

We're treating the FN thing like it was confirmed and is far from true

But i guess my thought process is flawed from the start so I'll take a break and come back with a fresh perspective

Anyone who seriously thinks Gamma and Marci’s arguing isn’t real, you’re nuts. This is almost identical to me and Titus in PA.

What i miss

In post 8657, Off The Hook wrote:

In post 8585, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

In post 8300, Dancing Puppets wrote:Dunn was shot N1. He was the first voter on BBT.
~Titus

It's literally right here.

So OTH, you have a problem with ME doing any scum hunting from Dunn's reads but not DP?

I’m back after breaking some stuff down for marci. So let me break this down for everyone:

DP is doing other sorting. BBT is not. That’s why him pushing this line of logic is bad. He is absolutely MADDENED by the scumreads being based on such a point and is tunnel-visioned on smearing as many others as possible.

~GE

I recall I think it was Alchemist being voteparked on my slot in PA because he knew it was a safe vote. Don’t know if that’s the case here.

In post 8587, Off The Hook wrote:

In post 8584, Off The Hook wrote:there's like 3 or 4 players going out of their way to misrepresent either me or other people

i think bluebloodedtoffee does have a point rn though..? dunnstral suspecting him was much further away than suspecting other people (such as us)

can we just vote out mafiablade

I am not saying any of Dunn’s reads are why he was killed. I believe that between his own role softs, and the fact Frog was probably going to check him if the end of D1 was anything to go by, scum thought him too dangerous to leave alive. As for DP’s using that in their BBT push, it’s not really great out of context but in the context of things, there are two things that rationalize the push overall. Those are that VCA does not look good on BBT as he has voted EVERY SINGLE FLIPPED TOWN, and that BBT being scum or town will tell a lot about the game. Based on my own vibes, I would say BBT!scum is the most probable thing in this gamestate. But instead of addressing ANY OF THAT, BBT hones in on “Dunn voted BBT at one point” and other irrelevant points such as Titus’ confidence level.
VOTE: BBT

~GE

One inconsistency I’ve noticed is that it makes absolutely no sense for BBT to be sr both us and Taly, given that Dunn hard tr us but he was pushing on both of us, even when everyone and their uncle is telling him that this is typical for town!Titus.

In post 8588, T-Bone wrote:3 or 4 players? It was me and Luke, and when you explained it better I got it and didn't push back further. I can't speak for Luke but I feel like that's an accurate representation of what happened here.

There was you two, but I also included BBT for misrepresenting the case against him, and it looked like Bell was winding up some BS push on us based on the last page’s quote wall that Bell put together.

~GE

In post 8667, Off The Hook wrote:

In post 8587, Off The Hook wrote:

In post 8584, Off The Hook wrote:there's like 3 or 4 players going out of their way to misrepresent either me or other people

i think bluebloodedtoffee does have a point rn though..? dunnstral suspecting him was much further away than suspecting other people (such as us)

can we just vote out mafiablade

I am not saying any of Dunn’s reads are why he was killed. I believe that between his own role softs, and the fact Frog was probably going to check him if the end of D1 was anything to go by, scum thought him too dangerous to leave alive. As for DP’s using that in their BBT push, it’s not really great out of context but in the context of things, there are two things that rationalize the push overall.

Those are that VCA does not look good on BBT as he has voted EVERY SINGLE FLIPPED TOWN

, and that BBT being scum or town will tell a lot about the game. Based on my own vibes, I would say BBT!scum is the most probable thing in this gamestate. But instead of addressing ANY OF THAT, BBT hones in on “Dunn voted BBT at one point” and other irrelevant points such as Titus’ confidence level.
VOTE: BBT

~GE

Tbf though, in early game Titus asked me for permission to vote Dunn before I told her that he was obvtown here, so he may still be scum but that’s probably not good reasoning.

In post 8669, Off The Hook wrote:

In post 8588, T-Bone wrote:3 or 4 players? It was me and Luke, and when you explained it better I got it and didn't push back further. I can't speak for Luke but I feel like that's an accurate representation of what happened here.

There was you two, but I also included BBT for misrepresenting the case against him, and it looked like Bell was winding up some BS push on us based on the last page’s quote wall that Bell put together.

~GE

Bell isn’t scum, there are nuances in his reads as town he can’t fake as scum.

Show me that Nancy

In post 8672, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Show me that Nancy

Just compare and contrast his town and scumgames. Gamma linked two of his scumgames, where he doesn’t sound anything like in this game. Do you want me to link some Bell towngames?

In post 8647, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:In what way? What puzzle are we solving that is aided by knowing Dunnstral's role?
~Cytosine

Dude knowing anyones role can give us info.
Like lol?
Why do you think Frog had the Rolecop role?