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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:51 pm

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Boxman wrote:Also, I'm curious - did the mafia target me to kill twice? I had a 1-shot bulletproof...
No, we/I only attacked you night 3. Not sure what happened to your bulletproof... :?
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:00 pm

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After we see night actions, roles and mod comments (and QT's :P)I'll come back here and give my two cents on everything.

I think I played a pretty solid game. Thank god. I'd been in a funk.
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:05 pm

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...If it wasn't the mafia, then it was probably that pesky one-shot vig. Or else Jesse had a one-shot kill as well. Whatever.
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:01 pm

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Well Crap.

So I am sorry to all of you, but i completely screwed up this game in the final night.

The Night 3 kills were:
BoxMan Shot JereIC. (Hit vest)
JereIC Shot Boxman. (Should have hit vest)

So at the start of day four, all 7 players should have still be alive. Unfortunately, I forgot about the Bullet Proof vest that i had originally told BoxMan he had, thus resulting in his death.

To be honest, i think the town pretty much had it for the most part since SpyreX was pretty much clear, DJ's claim would seem a bit more realistic than Ani's, thus confirming him, and Knights of Cydonia was all but confirmed. Despite all the attempts i can make to justify my mistake, in the end i completely messed it up, and i am sincerely sorry for that.

Mod Notes/Role PM's/Night actions to come later. I feel like a moron right now so I'll come back and post it later.
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:44 pm

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holy shit. I assumed I was up against a survivor, but the fact Boxman could kill and I only got a bulletproof via the inventor made it pretty hard for me to win.

Tbh I tried to play as I would have played as town, and at least ANI was scum so I got one right.

Only early comment is not showing the flip of Ani really hurt the town, and me. Boxman and Kodamma had early interaction but not knowing ani's alignment made the whole thing useless.

Boxman probs would have been lynched Day 4 anyway, I think, or Jere so it's probably moot re: the screw up. Fun game and a fun player-list though.
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:29 pm

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It would have changed very little overall I think - I had another BP, I would have been lynching JereIC and Box.
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:34 pm

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So were all of the inventors items Bulletproof vests?
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:36 pm

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Glad to see that I'm right when it comes to the fact that Animo WAS NOT a Neutral Survivor. Yes, I was wrong on his alignment, but I was right to think that he wasn't one.
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:41 pm

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As a fan of the movies, as I know you are, afatchic, I really can't see this setup.

I mean, how could Letty and Mia not be on the same team as Dom, Vince and Jesse? I mean Letty is as part of the team as any of the guys. I could see Brian being a double agent/survivor type role, and Johnny (being the antagonist in the first movie) being a serial killer, and the truck drivers being the mafia.
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:54 pm

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Starbuck wrote:As a fan of the movies, as I know you are, afatchic, I really can't see this setup.

I mean, how could Letty and Mia not be on the same team as Dom, Vince and Jesse? I mean Letty is as part of the team as any of the guys. I could see Brian being a double agent/survivor type role, and Johnny (being the antagonist in the first movie) being a serial killer, and the truck drivers being the mafia.
Because you can't have a 5 person scum team. How the truck drivers would be scum baffles me, as they were the ones getting mugged at night.
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:56 pm

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Starbuck wrote:As a fan of the movies, as I know you are, afatchic, I really can't see this setup.

I mean, how could Letty and Mia not be on the same team as Dom, Vince and Jesse? I mean Letty is as part of the team as any of the guys. I could see Brian being a double agent/survivor type role, and Johnny (being the antagonist in the first movie) being a serial killer, and the truck drivers being the mafia.
By the way, this entire set up was based off of the first movie, which is why Johnny was the SK, and Jesse was running from him. (I.E. Drive by in last scene of movie)
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:57 pm

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But you could do a reversal style game where the truck drivers were the "scum" (like 3 drivers), and that the rest could be "village". It could very well work.
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:50 pm

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Dominic Torreto wrote:Ask any racer, any real racer. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.
You are Dominic Torreto, the head of the local street racing organization, and now you are a part of the local mafia. Lately, you and your mafia partners (Vince, Brian) have been hijacking semi’s driving along the freeway at night. You have started to feel pressure from the police, so you may have to take one of them out along the way.

Role: Mafia Goon
Special Ability:
You have no special night abilities at this time. However, if you are able to hijack a truck during the night, you can confiscate whatever is left on the semi to use at night.
Group Ability:
As a group, you may commit one kill per night.
*Each member may only use 1 ability per night. You can not kill and use a special ability.**


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Vince wrote:Vince: Why don't you try Fat Burger from now on? You can get yourself a cheese and fries for 2.95, faggot!
Brian: I like the tuna here.
Vince: Bull, no one likes the tuna here!
Brian: Yeah well I do.
As you can tell, you have always clashed with Brian. Unfortunately for you, there is nothing you can do about it. Since he(Brian) is your mafia partner, along with (Dom.), and he is one of the reasons you guys haven’t been caught yet. For now, it looks like you will have to keep putting up with him…

Role: Mafia Goon
Special Ability:
You have no special night abilities at this time. However, if you are able to successfully hijack a truck during the night, you can confiscate whatever is left on the semi to use for the following nights.
Group Ability:
As a group, you may commit one kill per night.
*Each member may only use 1 ability per night. You can not kill and use a special ability.**


Brian
Brian wrote: Dom: I said a ten-*second* car, not a ten-*minute* car.
Jesse: You could push this across the finish line, or tow it.
Dom: You couldn't even tow that across the finish line.
Brian: No Faith.
Dom: I have faith in you, but this isn't a junkyard. This is a garage
Well, as you can see your in debt to Dominic. However, since you don’t have much money right now to buy him a new car, you decide to provide your services to him. Being an undercover cop, you can bail him out of tight situations by waiving your badge around in the air, and yet you look like a clean cop the whole time your doing it. Lately y’all have hijacking trucks, and you have provided quite the support, as you are able to alert the team of oncoming police. And the whole time you are doing this, the police never suspect you.

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Undercover cop/ Double agent. (Mafia Godfather)
Win Condition:
You win once all other factions have been eliminated, or nothing can prevent the same.
Special Abilities:
You show up innocent to Cop Investigations. You may also recover materials from successful truck hijackings to use for night abilities on subsequent nights.
Group Abilities
As a group, you may commit one kill per night.
*Each member may only use 1 ability per night. You can not kill and use a special ability.**


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Johnny wrote:Johhny Tran: [about Jesse who is driving away] Where's he going?
Dom: He went to the car wash
Johnny Tran: Whatever. Go fetch my car!
Dom: Go fetch your car? We're not on your block any more. You better watch who you talk to like that.
Johnny Tran: [Dom walks away] TORETTO! TORETTO! SWAT came into my house, disrespected my whole family because somebody narc'd me out! And you know what? IT WAS YOU!
[Dom punches Tran and a brawl ensues]
Dom: *I never narc’d on nobody! I never narc’d on nobody!*
As you can see, there is a bit of tension between you two, and now he owes you a car. This whole situation has angered you, and the only thing that could make you feel better right now is to watch every one of them die.

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You must attempt to kill one person each night. If you are lucky enough to kill Jesse on your own, you
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get a special ability. You also have a 1 shot night kill immune ability, so I hope you don’t get shot more than once.
Win Condition:
You win when you are the last person alive, or nothing can prevent the same.


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Jesse wrote:Brian: Hey, what's up, Jesse? What do you have in your hand?
Jesse: Throwing down the pinkslip just like you.
Brian: Pinkslip for what? The Jetta?
Jesse: Yeah.
Brian: You can't bet your dad's car.
Jesse: It's all right. I ain't losin'. This fool is running a Honda 2000. I'll win. Then me and my dad can roll together when he gets out of prison. It's all good.
Brian: Well, they're gonna throw him right back in prison after he kills you.
Unfortunately, you are afraid he is right and they are going to kill you. Now you just have to stay away from Johnny until someone else takes care of him, and then you are going to leave this life of crime behind.

Role:
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You have no special abilities.
Win condition:
You win if you can out live Johnny.


Letty Since you and Mia are the two closest females to Dom, you have grown quite fond of each other. With the recent hijackings, you have even been spending more time than normal together. Unfortunately, you have been wondering if she is really being honestly with you about what she does at night. You have decided to try and figure out for yourself, and make her hang out with you one night tracking someone. Then you can really find out what she is up to.
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You may talk to your “Neighbor” at night, while everyone else should be asleep. You also have a 1-shot tracking ability if you both trust each other enough to decide on who to track. If you both send me separate names on the night you try to use it, you lose the ability.
Win condition:
You win once all threats to the town have been eliminated.


Mia Since you and Letty are the two closest females to Dom, you have grown quite fond of each other. With the recent hijackings, you have even been spending more time than normal together. Unfortunately, you have been wondering if she is really being honestly with you about what she does at night. You have decided to try and figure out for yourself, and make her hang out with you one night tracking someone. Then you can really find out what she is up to.
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You may talk to your “Neighbor” at night, while everyone else should be asleep. You also have a 1-shot tracking ability if you both trust each other enough to decide on who to track. If you both send me separate names on the night you try to use it, you lose the ability.
Win condition:
You win once all threats to the town have been eliminated.


One shot vig
You are a truck driver that drives a route passing through the town in which the recent hijackings are taking place. These recent hijackings have you scared to death and unsure what to do. One afternoon while cleaning your truck out you noticed a shotgun that had fallen out of a box during a delivery. You thought to yourself, “No need to take this back when I can put it to perfectly good use myself.” Unfortunately, when you look inside you only notice one bullet in the gun, and none anywhere else. It looks like you must make your one shot count.

Role: Truck Driver
Ability: You have a one shot vig ability. You may PM me the name of any person you would like to attempt to shoot during the night.
Win condition: You win once all threats to the town have been eliminated.


One shot Doc
You are a truck driver that drives a route passing through the town in which the recent hijackings are taking place. These recent hijackings have you scared to death and unsure what to do. One afternoon while cleaning your truck out you noticed a first aid kit laying on the floor. It had apparently fallen out of a recent order you delivered. You think to yourself, “Why return this when I can make good use of it here?” So you decide to use it for the towns best interest and try to save someone during the night. Since you only have one you better make it count.

Role: Truck Driver
Ability: You have a one shot doc ability. You may PM me the name of any person you would like to attempt to save during the night. You will only protect against one night kill attempt though. So if two people attempt to kill him, there is nothing you can do.
Win condition: You win once all threats to the town have been eliminated.


One shot Spike StripYou are a truck driver that drives a route passing through the town in which the recent hijackings are taking place. These recent hijackings have you scared to death and unsure what to do. One afternoon while cleaning out your truck you noticed a spike strip that had been left behind from a recent delivery sitting in the back of your truck. You decide you could put it to good use with all the criminals running around at night, and decide to keep it. Unfortunately, you only have one, so use it wisely.

Role: Truck driver.
Ability. You have a 1 shot spike strip ability. You may choose one night to deploy the spike strip, so that no one may visit you that night. You are unsure about what will happen to the people who hit the spike strip, nor do you care.
Win condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated.


One shot courier
You are a truck driver who drives a route through the town in which the recent hijackings are taking place. These recent hijackings have you scared to death and unsure what to do. One afternoon, you started thinking about things you could do to get away from the crimes, and decide that you should just leave town for a few days. Unfortunately, you only have enough gas to make the trip once.

Role: Truck Driver
Ability: One shot Courier. You may PM me one night in which you would like to leave town. During this night you can not be visited by anyone, thus preventing you from being night killed. However, you may only leave once, so choose wisely.
Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town have been eliminated.


Delivery Driver
You are a local delivery driver in the town suffering from the recent hijackings. While most people are scared to death, and not sure what to do, you think life must go on. You have 11 packages to deliver, and you think there is no point in hiding until all your packages have been delivered.

Role: Delivery Driver
Ability: Each night you may PM me the name of a person you would like to deliver a package to. You only have 1 packager per person, but you have a package for each person. You are unsure of the contents of each package, you just know that you need to deliver them.
Win condition: You win once all threats to the town have been eliminated.



Mod Notes about setup:

*If someone hits the spike strip, they forfeit their night action since they don't have a vehicle to use.
*All Mafia start out as goons, and recover extra "Abilities" from their kills. (Only applies to truck drivers)

Delivery Driver Packages:

Dominic-1 shot NK immune
Vince- 1 shot RB
Brian- 1 shot Doc
Johnny-1 shot RB
Jesse-1 shot nk-immune.
Letty-1 extra track
Mia- 1 extra track
1 shot vig- 1 more shot
1 shot doc- 1 more shot
1 shot spike strip- 1 more shot
1 shot courier- 1 more shot
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:01 pm

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Night actions:


Night 1:

Mafia(JereIC) kills RossWilliams

Serial Killer (Boxman) Kills DoomBunny

Deliver Driver (Tjoe Min Ja) Delivers to Faraday

All others: No action

Night 1 Results:

RossWilliams Dies (JereIC)

DoomBunny Dies (BoxMan)

Faraday Receives a package (Bullet Proof Vest)


Night 2 Actions:

Mafia-(JereIC)-Kill Faraday

Serial Killer-(Boxman)-Kill MordyS

Del. Driver-(Knights of Cydonia) Delivers a package to JereIC
SpyreX-Use Spike Strip
Doctor(Don_Johnson)-Protect SpyreX
Courier-(MordyS)-Use Ability

Night 2 Results:

Don_Johnson loses night abilities.
JereIC receives a “Gift” (Bullet Proof Vest)


Night 3 Actions:

Mafia-(JereIC)-Kills BoxMan

Serial Killer-(Boxman)-Kilsl JereIC

Deliver Driver-(Knights of Cydonia)-Delivers a package to SpyreX


Night 3 Results:
SpyreX Gains 1 shot Spike Strip ability.

BoxMan Dies.

Faraday Wins.
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:02 pm

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Starbuck wrote:But you could do a reversal style game where the truck drivers were the "scum" (like 3 drivers), and that the rest could be "village". It could very well work.
Okay. Thanks for the advise. Sorry you didn't like it.
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:05 pm

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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:33 pm

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I reserve the right to say "I TOLD you so" about Starbuck. Pegged as town from teh start. DJ had me worried right up until JereIC quickhammered and I assume he was hoping to avoid that crosskill.
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:56 am

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KoC, that's only because you know how I play by now. =)
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:25 am

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Starbuck wrote:JereIC: Dominic (Mafia Goon)
Shadow Knight: Brian (Undercover Cop/Double Agent. Godfather)
Animorpherv1: Vince (Mafia Goon)

Glad to see that I'm right when it comes to the fact that Animo WAS NOT a Neutral Survivor. Yes, I was wrong on his alignment, but I was right to think that he wasn't one.
i was the only one believing him to be scum. your lynch was necessary but i think you handled it well with your late day interactions with jereic. i did my best to draw an nk to get myself out of the game, but oh well. overall i had a lot of fun.
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:33 am

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DJ, was asking for the ModKill your way of Counter Claiming him? I figured you did that because he claimed your role, and instead of Counter claiming him, you just asked for a mod kill first.
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:27 am

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sort of. i would have asked for a modkill anyways though. i thought he was scum and i like modkills. it makes me feel like a dayvig. :)

i wouldn't have counterclaimed as early. it did cross my mind that he had a similar role to mine, but i generally frown on day 1 lynches claiming doc.
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:54 am

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So some end game notes.

Setup: This setup is scary. Although after seeing what the survivors wincon was, its not as much of an issue. However, I'd have to do the numbers but I think there was a definite possibility for town to be up the creek after just one mislynch (or, day 2 lylo fo sho).

However, with the number of BP's and action-cancellers that wouldn't be a normal result so.

The raw number of BP's and one-shots makes for an interesting dynamic but it does make it frustrating for scum and sk alike. :)

Play:

I'm gonna take some hate for this, but by the end of the day I was more confident than not Starbuck was going to flip town. However, I couldn't justify pushing that wagon a different direction - in no small part due to that thread Mordy found.

In general, the biggest thing I think that pushed that lynch through was the attitude towards questioning - it isn't always clear what someone MEANS when they say something and a key piece of not getting the noose in those situations is looking at it objectively and addressing concerns from a neutral standpoint versus assuming you're being attacked by scum.

We got pretty lucky overall in that the scum didn't play badly but they all suffered from some level of apathy - no scum was really an active part of the game. That pattern, once found, causes a lot of issues.

KoC was town as all getout coupled with a role that made NO sense as scum. That was pretty easy.

DJ was a bit of a crazy, but ultimately after SK attacked him in that fashion and being attached to my hip made the chance of him being scum minimal (and, even if so the chance of winning minimal).

Mordy, I had good gut vibes from you most of the game. I like the play. ;)
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:07 pm

Post by Tjoe Min Ja »

lol, Cydonia:P
you give package to JereiC:P
SpyerX, it was supposed to be you:)
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If you pick a fight with one Goblin, be ready to fight them all.
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Finish game :
Mini 838: Jeopardy in Jefferson -over- Town - lose
Mini 839 -- Mafia Invasion! -over- scum win
Mini 840. Tajo's I love you Mafia -over- scum - win
StrangerCoug's Worst Nightmare: D├â┬®j├â┬á Bastard -over- Town - win
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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:18 pm

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Hey Starbuck, if your partner had showed up night one, who did you want to track?
1-1: Town
0-2: Scum

"Isn't it funny? The truth just sounds different." - Penny Lane
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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:42 am

Post by don_johnson »

* toots own horn post*

i would like to point out a few things about my play in this particular game which, unfortunately, has been mischaracterized as "a bit of a crazy," "racist", and having other players "worried". i was often referred to in game as simply "hitching my apple cart" to spyrex which, if you read my posts is not entirely true. i always explained my position and i committed to my position based on evidence in the thread.

a) i correctly identified spyrex' initial argument against sk as "pro-town".

b) i correctly identified sk's rebuttal as "scummy" and thusly committed to the wagon until sk was lynched.

c) i was the only player pushing the idea of aniscum, granted i had role knowledge, but i also pointed out the "name" part of the claim which didn't fit.

d) i was also the first player to vote in a possible lylo situation for the remaining member of the scumteam.

starbuck: for reference, rent "monty python and the holy grail". the scene where king arthur and his knights try to invade a french castle is where the "kniggit" insult was pulled from. if you want to categorize it as racist then you need to realize that it is racist against "silly english knights" and meant for no other population. apologies if my play disturbed you.
town 39-32
mafia 17-9
sk 0-6
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