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Hey Baby Spice, the thing that wasn't true was this:

Baby Spice wrote:If I understand this right people are voting me because (In no particular order);

Which is to say, you can easily dismiss/deal with the reasons people are voting you, but you're not even acknowledging the existence of the good ones, let alone engaging with them and defending yourself from them.

Hey Furcolow, why are you accusing me of "actively pushing mislynches on VIs"?
And voting for the people that polarise is really dumb. Associative tells are the worst tells for many reasons, and lynching the polarisers is far too superficial.

Forgot to answer Percy's question: I felt that the players who were backing it were the players who were always going to back it (ie. the likes of Benmage and K-Scope), so they were somewhat null. I find that cautious scum often wait for a certain level of support behind a player's lynch before they are willing to back it themselves. My hope was that someone who had previously been indifferent to your lynch would try to capitalise on the pressure and hop on.

Percy wrote:Hey Baby Spice, the thing that wasn't true was this:

Baby Spice wrote:If I understand this right people are voting me because (In no particular order);

Which is to say, you can easily dismiss/deal with the

bad

reasons people are voting you, but you're not even acknowledging the existence of the good ones, let alone engaging with them and defending yourself from them.

Hey Furcolow, why are you accusing me of "actively pushing mislynches on VIs"?
And voting for the people that polarise is really dumb. Associative tells are the worst tells for many reasons, and lynching the polarisers

for the sole reason that they are polarising

is far too superficial.

I was stating something I have been reading people stating. Why are you not calling THEM out?

Percy, two of those responses were direct, unambiguous quotes from the people involved.

I don't see how I can treat Benmage, IaI, or even Jason's votes as anything else. Thor has never actuallys stated a reason, just Mongoose is scummy and baby Spice didn't change that.

Ben stated catagorically, and I quoted, he's voting town to implicate you by my flip, IaI stated he would vote me ifI didn't vote you and he did. Furc voted me to stop IaI getting the L-1 spot for gods sake.
Sotty appears to be voting me because I called her scum.

The only one who appears to be saying anything actually about me is yourself, and that is simply that you don't understand why I voted Lrdwhyt. Your question to me that you are harping on, why did I vote lrdwhyt, I answered pages ago, so I don't understand why the hell you are asking it again.

But just for you:
I strongly believe that her arguement with Mina, that led to her vote on Lrd was faked. So I followed her vote to see what she would do.
I strongly believe that Sotty's actions in voteing and then later unvoting for Lrd was bussing.
Since a wagon on Sotty wouldn't fly I voted for the other side of the bus, Lrd.


After looking for that Newbie 1012 I decided to check my reads from that game.
My strongest town read in newb 1012 turned out to be scum, way I'm going it will probably be the same here.

Furcolow wrote:

KaleiÐoscøpe wrote:

Furcolow wrote:Pretty sure we are fine as a town, there is no need to spazz out. Let's lynch someone who has polarized us somewhat (BS, LrdWhyt's replacement, Percy, Kaleidoscope, Mina) and move on to the next phase.

Wow, just wow. What a blatant scumpost, showing that you really couldn't care less who gets lynched.

You're going down next when Percy is lynched.

How is wanting to lynch and use the town's killing power scummy? You're baffling me, here.

Oh, it isn't that. It's the fact that you're not really caring who is going to get lynched, which isn't really sitting well with me.

Phone ftl.

Question: does anyone (Thor, Mina, Locke) have a better town read on Baby Spice than Percy. Because I obviously do. IAI does. Kscope wants Percy hung. If you players do too than it would be illogical for you to not vote Percy over Baby spice to save baby spice (this of course only if you have a better town read on her than Percy). Obviously with Percy support the lynch switch would be swift.

So I want you to all know, that your inaction is just as much of an action in relation to baby spice dying.

Baby Spice, can you point to some specific statements that make you think think that argument was fake?

Locke, can you answer my question.

Who do you have a stronger town read on? Percy, or Baby Spice.

Percy. I thought his interactions with Dry-fit were scummy, but I'm not reading him as scum since then. I think I've made my views clear on BS, but to summarise, it feels to me like she's trying to keep her pool of suspects wide and there's a lack of substance to many of her accusations (hence my question about the fake argument).

@Percy - I officially hate your picture of paperwork, that's actually the scummiest thing I think you've done this game. Was anyone even claiming you didn't have paperwork?

Where the heck is this furc case coming from? Should I blame Mina? People should go back and read his interactions with Dry-fit, those are not scumbuddies.

Locke Lamora wrote:Forgot to answer Percy's question: I felt that the players who were backing it were the players who were always going to back it (ie. the likes of Benmage and K-Scope), so they were somewhat null. I find that cautious scum often wait for a certain level of support behind a player's lynch before they are willing to back it themselves. My hope was that someone who had previously been indifferent to your lynch would try to capitalise on the pressure and hop on.

This is all well and good if Percy is town. Does the lack of capitalization make you wonder otherwise?

KaleiÐoscøpe wrote:

Furcolow wrote:

KaleiÐoscøpe wrote:

Furcolow wrote:Pretty sure we are fine as a town, there is no need to spazz out. Let's lynch someone who has polarized us somewhat (BS, LrdWhyt's replacement, Percy, Kaleidoscope, Mina) and move on to the next phase.

Wow, just wow. What a blatant scumpost, showing that you really couldn't care less who gets lynched.

You're going down next when Percy is lynched.

How is wanting to lynch and use the town's killing power scummy? You're baffling me, here.

Oh, it isn't that. It's the fact that you're not really caring who is going to get lynched, which isn't really sitting well with me.

BLATANT MISREPRESENTATION.
I care who gets lynched
You are a fucking liar

To answer BM:
I have a stronger town read on Percy. I feel like he was misunderstood, and in a mountainous setup like this it is very easy to look for idiots to lynch (kaleidoscope, baby spice)

And idiots = scum?

Furc, Let Mina answer my question. Than feel freeto hammer.

We at L-1?

Alright Zach I get it.

Empking replaces Lrdwhyt. Thanks Empking!

Furc: Would you mind giving me a summary of the game so far?
Thor: What's the case on babyspice?

Empking wrote:Thor: What's the case on babyspice?

There's only one? I shall presume you're asking for mine.

The case on Baby Spice is;

She is scum.

...
...
...oh, fine.

The longer case on Baby Spice is;

Mongoose (BS in a previous life) pushed a terrible case on Benmage and basically was misrepping him within the first few pages
Made multiple claims of a playstyle that is built for scum.
Stays middle of the road (and admits to such) for the entire game - at replacement defends Dry-fit pretty obviously.
BS picks up the Benmage lynch wagon again, and again does it for terrible reasons and follows Mongoose's misrep logic.
Defense of hinky as =/= scummy.
I'll add strong agreement with Sotty(?) who (I think) was the one who first pointed out BS's awkwardness around the Mina/Sotty/LrdWhyt affair.

Also, I recommend a decent read of IAI.

Hey Empking. Here's my case:

I'm town.

I think Baby Spice is town.

I'm voting Baby Spice.

Sup.

That one is sigged as pure win for the foreseeable future.

Oh Thor, try not to be scum this game.

I'll ask the mod about it and see if we can cut a deal