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In post 873, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:OH MAN YOU THINK HAVING A SCUM READ ON SOMEONE IS EQUIVALENT TO ATTACKING THEM?

Oh god that's rich. You wanna see attacking someone? Go see what I said to ProHawk a page ago. That was an attack.

God you're so bad.

If you're wondering what an attack looks like? This is an attack.

In post 873, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:God you're so bad

bad =/= scum tho :3

And you just attacked me too, when i said i was starting to smell a chainsaw.

P-Edit: From my PoV, yes.

In post 874, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Everyone I put pressure on I am now attacking.

My P-Edit was in response to this.

In post 876, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 873, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:God you're so bad

bad =/= scum tho :3

And you just attacked me too, when i said i was starting to smell a chainsaw.

P-Edit: From my PoV, yes.

I am calling in all favors. Anyone who refuses to lynch this cheeky scum fuck with me is dead to me.

Nacho, Andrius I'm looking at you. I am invoking the blood pact, mother fuckers.

If you're so certain I'm scum, what is my scum motivation for attacking your defense of Saki instead of just continuing attacking Saki?

LLD--you're wrong on Sakura. Really really really wrong. When morph the cat and Andrius's Neighborizer abilities were revealed, she claimed Neighborizer as well without prompting and with specific details. Scum don't do this kind of thing. Check the sequence of events starting here.

Now be proud of me for posting a link through a phone. I'm going to go pass out. Please don't spam the thread with NO U posts.

VOTE: Saki

In post 878, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

In post 876, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 873, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:God you're so bad

bad =/= scum tho :3

And you just attacked me too, when i said i was starting to smell a chainsaw.

P-Edit: From my PoV, yes.

I am calling in all favors. Anyone who refuses to lynch this cheeky scum fuck with me is dead to me.

Nacho, Andrius I'm looking at you. I am invoking the blood pact, mother fuckers.

You let Saki get away with saying VI != scum and go after Sakura instead? Come now.

Aaaand out.

In post 879, Sakura Hana wrote:If you're so certain I'm scum, what is my scum motivation for attacking your defense of Saki instead of just continuing attacking Saki?

The scum motivation for attacking me? Really simple.

Gut reaction of defense. It's much harder to fabricate points why you're not scum if you are trying to pretend to have a town read. Faking a scum read is much easier, because then you get to straight up fight me.

Plus, you can't keep a town read on someone who wants to lynch you for too long, because eventually you're going to have to fake that scum read. So opportunism is a big factor.

In post 880, Jabberwock wrote:LLD--you're wrong on Sakura. Really really really wrong. When morph the cat and Andrius's Neighborizer abilities were revealed, she claimed Neighborizer as well without prompting and with specific details. Scum don't do this kind of thing. Check the sequence of events starting here.

Now be proud of me for posting a link through a phone. I'm going to go pass out. Please don't spam the thread with NO U posts.

VOTE: Saki

No, you.

I guarantee you Sakura is scum. This isn't town play.

Oh, and Tierce? Scum DO do that kind of thing. I thought you might have learned your lesson when I did it to you in Maiden Mafia.

Or is "Zhihark the Daein Country Cop" blocked from your mind?

and let me be specific.

Someone claimed a weird non-result on SpyreX.

I immediately without prompting full claimed my role and my SpyreX result.

It's the exact same thing.

In post 880, Jabberwock wrote:I'm going to go pass out.

Same here i got a long day at work tomorrow, good night

(that also means dont expect any new posts from me for at least 12 hours unless i squeeze some time up)

In post 737, Jabberwock wrote:That fatalism/deathwish/frustration at having no scumreads is Town Town Town.

Null null null, sorry.

In post 737, Jabberwock wrote:n this game? He's just flailing around being 'useless' and getting cozy with Sakura's bland description of his meta, because he thinks he can. Saki is not stupid and can pull his weight as Town, but he's choosing not to do so here and instead play the herp a derp omg to scummy to be scum card. He's scum, don't be fooled by the act.

He can be useless as scum and useful as town. Imagine that.

In post 737, Jabberwock wrote:He is one of the players here who benefit heavily from NKing Nacho before Nacho even gets to post,

Everyone benefits heavily from that. He's town and he didn't kill me.

In post 744, Daemon385 wrote:Which personally has me writing them of at the moment. One of them could be scum, but I feel like they are just blatantly being uselessly bad.

This doesn't explain why you're currently writing them off.

In post 752, Jabberwock wrote:2) Why did he pick us when he could pick Nacho, who he is much more used to dealing with?

Last time Andy was recruiting masonizer and didn't recruit me until N3.

In post 762, Sakura Hana wrote:It's weird for me because I can also do that. Except my ability fails if i target a male character, this is getting too weird, is it normal of Vi to give the exact same ability to 2 people?

How did you miss Purpkin's neighborizer claim as well?

In post 766, Jabberwock wrote:Okay seriously Sakura is like Townier than Nachyana, that post was ridiculously Town. Never ever ever lynch that slot. But--my brain.

Tierce you really really need to touch bases with us because your reads are not aligning well with ours at the moment.
Andrius's neighborhood with you explains his earlier paranoia on you and he's 100% town.

In post 801, ProHawk wrote:Just pointing out the obvious little snake-head dude so that maybe when I am dead someone will come back to this post and see your failed logic. Whether its indicative of your alignment yet is still out for jury, but it is admissible evidence to me. Should also note I hadn't completely caught up and missed your reasoning for Andy not being investigative.

Is there a reason you're ignoring us?

In post 850, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:DDD is up in the air for me, but I think Nat was town and I get a good vibe from him.

So uh, yeah.

Is prohawk on your list? Because your list would be great if you dropped out the paranoia 3 and put prohawk on your list.

In post 861, Sakura Hana wrote:I'm starting to smell a chainsaw here... and by that i mean my town read on LLD is dropping...

Are you me.

In post 880, Jabberwock wrote:When morph the cat and Andrius's Neighborizer abilities were revealed, she claimed Neighborizer as well without prompting and with specific details. Scum don't do this kind of thing.

Saki claiming that he was playing anti-town because of her "you get powers later in the game" clause is a fakeclaim far beyond his skill level and the matching up with LLD's power SCREAMS town. Yes, there will be scum versions of that power, but the scum version is not Saki and is not LLD. Sakura claiming neighborizer after Andrius claimed was scummy as fuck because instead of truly counterclaiming, Sakura posted THIS:

In post 760, Sakura Hana wrote:and we got a town neighborizer?.... what in the fricken hell?!

This is not how town reacts. This is how scum reacts if they see a role that counterclaims their confirmable one.

In post 878, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

In post 876, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 873, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:God you're so bad

bad =/= scum tho :3

And you just attacked me too, when i said i was starting to smell a chainsaw.

P-Edit: From my PoV, yes.

I am calling in all favors. Anyone who refuses to lynch this cheeky scum fuck with me is dead to me.

Nacho, Andrius I'm looking at you. I am invoking the blood pact, mother fuckers.

Morph, Purpkin.
You as well.

Oil wrote:Sakura posted THIS:

In post 760, Sakura Hana wrote:
and we got a town neighborizer?.... what in the fricken hell?!


This is not how town reacts. This is how scum reacts if they see a role that counterclaims their confirmable one.

I missed this dissonance with her later claim "oh ya i am a neighborizer too" and you are spot on.
VOTE: Sakura

Blood pact?

I'd call sakura!scum flip === morph!town due to the unsolicited use of " neighborizer" in 760, too.

In post 809, ProHawk wrote:664 isn't scummy. Its when I directly ask them a question, and its gets "skipped" that is scummy. Like trying to scramble for answers scummy.

Speaking of this, I asked you a question earlier and you never answered it

RE: Saki, Without giving me Meta, can someone tell me why he's scum?

I don't feel like reading anything atm

as for my town-read on him, it's mostly due to his interaction with Nacho, and why he was scum reading DTM. I can't really see scum OMGUS'ing on a "fake guilty" the way he did. He has really strong convictions when it comes to his reads no matter how irrational it may be.

that, to me is a townish trait

Oil Tycoons, can you take a look at my pressure onto Prohawk 2-3 pages ago? The interaction where I told him if he didn't shut up I'd fuck his shit up.

Look at his reaction and tell me what you think.

Oh and that's L-2 on Sakura.

Just so Andrius knows.

In post 893, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Oil Tycoons, can you take a look at my pressure onto Prohawk 2-3 pages ago? The interaction where I told him if he didn't shut up I'd fuck his shit up.

Look at his reaction and tell me what you think.

I saw it, but I don't think it's alignment indicative. I think competent scum realizes that taking the easy road and shutting up is a horrible, horrible idea.

~Vote Count XVII:

Rhys

Sakura Hana (5) ~

(Saki),

Saki, Lady Lambdadelta, Oil Tycoons, Purpkin, morph the cat
Saki (4) ~

(Lady Lambdadelta,)

(Jabberwock,)

Sakura Hana, Andrius, Daemon385,

(Saki,)

Jabberwock
Andrius (1) ~ Debonair Danny DiPietro
morph the cat (1) ~ ProHawk
ProHawk (0) ~

(Oil Tycoons,) (morph the cat,) (Purpkin)

Not Voting:

(Daemon385,)

DTMaster,

(Jabberwock,)

(Lady Lambdadelta,)

(Saki)

In post 892, Purpkin wrote:

In post 809, ProHawk wrote:664 isn't scummy. Its when I directly ask them a question, and its gets "skipped" that is scummy. Like trying to scramble for answers scummy.

Speaking of this, I asked you a question earlier and you never answered it

Speaking of this, and a re-read of your ISO it appears I indeed have answered over all of your questions unless you hid one somewhere I didn't see. So, please restate said question.

In post 887, Oil Tycoons wrote:Is there a reason you're ignoring us?

You're joking right? I bet you haven't even looked at any of those games I had linked. Or perhaps you could enlighten us with your analysis?

What exactly do you want me to say? You don't like me because I called you scum before you came out? Well, boo-hoo. I don't even know what you mean by convenient? Are you trying to say I knew you were supposed to die but didn't so I pretended to have a scum read on you? Way to create a gigantic ball of WIFOM regarding my alignment. If I would have said you were conf-town in my opening post you would have said I was white-knighting so... what's your point? To be frank, I am waiting for you to die so I can start sorting out your claim and reactions to it with a degree of accuracy.

There is nothing you have addressed to me that I have not responded in kind save you calling me scum, which isn't really a case anyway.

VOTE: Sakura

That's L-1.

I'm Florina

With my ability Horsebird, I can neighborize someone for one night.
And my ability Androphobia makes my ability fail if i target a male character.

I'm with LLD in that I don't find meta that compelling outside my own experiences and while Saki's pity party makes me want him stabbed to death out of sheer hate it's something I read as town. And I'm reading LLD as town hard. My stance on Andrius has softened somewhat because I saw a fair amount of decent stuff in one of his posts a while back, still not thrilled with the hammer or explanations but eh. Sakura's 760 is a brutal post despite Tierce's protests to the contrary and I certainly find myself drawn that way but especially if the counter is a Saki lynch that I'm exceedingly skeptical of.