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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:28 am
by Guyett
Could you explain why I am scum?

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:31 am
by GuyInFreezer
vote count 2.6
Guyett (L-3):
beastcharizard
beastcharizard (L-3):
Brian Skies
>
Viera Assassin (L-1):
Guyett | Bert | Shiny Hydreigon
morph the cat (L-3):
Viera Assassin

Not Voting:
morph the cat

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

Until deadline: (expired on 2013-10-02 21:45:00)


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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:49 am
by Shiny Hydreigon
In post 874, beastcharizard wrote:I was expecting to have more time yesterday to explain my reads but that didn't happen.

I just don't think he is scum. It is a gut thing for VA.
so explain them now?

lemme guess, you dont have time now either

R~

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:02 am
by beastcharizard
No, i will explain them. But why didn't you ask Guyett to explain his?

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:16 am
by Shiny Hydreigon
guyett gave his reads because he thought he's getting lynched. i didnt ask for them.

R~

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:24 pm
by morph the cat
In post 878, beastcharizard wrote:No, i will explain them. But why didn't you ask Guyett to explain his?
Any time now would be good.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:32 pm
by Brian Skies
You guys keep saying Beast needs rope, yet you all vote Saki?

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:37 pm
by beastcharizard
Noone hammer please. I am actually doing the reads right now. I am watching football at the same time though.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:55 pm
by Bert
In post 873, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:Bert, But I know the terrible, terrible things that can happen when I let Paranoia roam free so mostly, I'm watching you interact with R and talking a bit about you in our talking space
K. You got by me as town for most of 527 until Majiffy started being scummy on D4, so IGMEOU :igmeou:

WATCH OUT
In post 882, beastcharizard wrote:Noone hammer please. I am actually doing the reads right now. I am watching football at the same time though.
You realize that Saki hasn't claimed and no one has signaled any intent? off topic, but Raiders-Broncos is a blow-out
In post 881, Brian Skies wrote:You guys keep saying Beast needs rope, yet you all vote Saki?
Giving him time to put more than "town" and "scum" besides his reads list names....after that I can make my conclusion

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:02 pm
by Bert
After my Day 2 re-skim today, I am most paranoid about Viera still.
In post 849, Guyett wrote:VOTE: Guyett
Someone hammer please.
I am a Vanilla townie
Exaggerated overreaction.

This worries me a wee bit. Bring me through your thought process and tell me what led you to self-vote

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:10 pm
by beastcharizard
1. Cat - Null
Cabd did very little but Cat has picked it up. Still don't have a read on them.
2. Guyett - scum
Their response to pressure doesn't seem genuine. The self-vote seems like a gambit and putting a read of themselves didn't sit well with me. Everyone is going to call themselves town.
5. Brian Skies - town
I didn't like their exchange with Shiny but their explanation and saying they were confused seemed genuine to me. Since then they have been encouraging conversation and scum hunting.
7. Shiny Hydreigon - town
Can anyone argue they aren't town? They generate discussion. They call people on everything they do. They push people to actually contribute.
8. Bert - Null
I am changing this read. I can't find anything I find especially scummy about them. They seem to be very fair with how they play as well.
9. Viera Assassin - Null
Mostly gut. I don't know much about Saki except what others have told me. They haven't done anything I deemed scummy. Because of my changing my Bert read I am not comfortable with putting Saki as town.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:13 pm
by Shiny Hydreigon
In post 885, beastcharizard wrote:9. Viera Assassin - Null
Mostly gut
lold

R~

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:10 pm
by Brian Skies
Here are my current reads:

Shiny
- Nacho said this slot was town. I'm certain this slot is town (through interactions). Unless something drastic happens, I will never vote this slot.
Guyett
- I like the interactions between Nacho and Guyett right after he unvoted me. If he was scum, it would have been easier to just wagon me. Also, refer to post 260. He just seems town to me.
Bert
- I'm going to trust Nacho's gut (post 315) and my gut (because I don't know how else to read him) that he's town. He seems to be actively scumhunting and personally, has had me pegged for most of the game.
Cabd
Cat
- I don't know. There's a general lack of activity, but his early posts do seem somewhat townish. And the replacement seems townish up to this point. I'm leaning slight town and I don't want this slot lynched yet.
Beast
- He hasn't convinced me he's town and I see a lot of things that convince me he's scum. So he's scum and he's the person I want to lynch.

Other interesting notes:

Nacho mentions something about Cabd/VA in post 393.
Cabd's early walls are not just walls of text. He does label how much he is leaning town or scum for the person. At the bottom, there is a line graph with T and S. T stands for town, S stands for scum. The X is placed on the line graph based on how heavily he is leaning in either direction. I meant to mention this earlier, I must have forgotten. There are only a few of the walls because people complained, but information is still information. Also, if you can't tell, Cabd has a really really strong townread on Beast on his Beast evaluation wall thingy.
And now I lost where I was at in my read-through. -_-
Post 514 if you're interested. Nacho's is 501.

My Saki Interpretation

31
- Hai guys, I ended slavery and got shot in the head for it.
Everything else Saki said before I got scummy is irrelevant.
255
- Guyett is scummy. Lucky said something that was probably intelligent and I'm going to sheep.
267
- Guyett and Beast are my scumreads. Lynch them.
281
- Guyett shoulda lynched super-scummy Brian. People like Guyett aren't welcome in our town.
316
- Why isn't Guyett dead yet? GUYS! I FOUND THE SCUMTEAM! BRING ROPE!
468
- Someone started a Cabd inactivity wagon. SAVE A SPOT FOR ME!
543
- Guyett said something scummy! I think he's scum! Hence, I vote him again!
545
- I misread something but Guyett is still scum.
568
- Guyett is still scum.
Interesting note: Saki never joins the Lucky wagon. It makes sense considering Saki liked something Lucky said about Guyett and sheeped it for the rest of Day 1.
Post 640- Sakura said Saki is probably town and not to lynch him. I don't know how much you want to put that into consideration.
698
- I voted Guyett Day 1 and I'm sticking to it.
734
- Guys. Seriously. Stop ignoring me. Can we lynch Guyett please?
758
- You ask for reads? Hah! I LAUGH AT YOU!
760
- Like seriously, stop.
762
- -________-
765
- So what you're telling me is...you're an idiot.
767
- You're a douchebag. Die.
And some interactions with the cat I don't care about.

Long story short, Viera was townreading Lucky early for some reason and thought Guyett was scum. He's holding his vote on Guyett because he's not convinced Guyett is town. He joined the Cabd inactivity wagon for who knows what reason and went back to voting Guyett afterwards. Instead of asking him about it, people have just been "give me reads/thoughts or die." And he doesn't want to. Sakura said he was probably town, but so did Cabd. And after I said I would be willing to policy lynch him, he voted me for being a douchebag. As for his interactions with Fferyll, it could just be a negative response to someone meta-reading him incorrectly. Anyhow, this is my take on Saki's game so far and I'd still rather lynch Beast.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:21 pm
by morph the cat
Sorry for my absence, guys. Camping trip ended with flash flood, and then jury duty today. Life is just fucking with me at this point. I'm baaaaaack nao though.
In post 885, beastcharizard wrote:9. Viera Assassin - Null
Mostly gut. I don't know much about Saki except what others have told me. They haven't done anything I deemed scummy. Because of my changing my Bert read I am not comfortable with putting Saki as town.
Holy shit, you really are scum with saki aren't you? I was townreading you day one but everything you've done today has been a great lakes' worth of pondscum.

Let me translate for the other players how to read that:
In post 885, beastcharizard wrote:9. Viera Assassin - Null
I am scum with this player and need some shit filler to justify a null read here.
VOTE: beast

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:49 pm
by Brian Skies
^ I'm assuming this is Cabd.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:55 pm
by Shiny Hydreigon
cabd mind lynching saki first?

R~

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:02 pm
by Brian Skies
Why Saki first?

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:05 pm
by beastcharizard
wait, morph is a cabd hydra?

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:10 pm
by morph the cat
In post 890, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:cabd mind lynching saki first?

R~
Maybe. You got some reasoning there... mara, I assume?

In post 892, beastcharizard wrote:wait, morph is a cabd hydra?
Yes. It's cabd and ffery. I just
suck at town alone
brought in the heavy guns.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:13 pm
by morph the cat
In post 870, beastcharizard wrote:1. Cat - Null subs always are null for me.
2. Guyett - scum
5. Brian Skies - town PoE
7. Shiny Hydreigon - town
8. Bert - Scum
9. Viera Assassin - town

Going to bed so this is what you get.
In post 885, beastcharizard wrote:1. Cat - Null
Cabd did very little but Cat has picked it up. Still don't have a read on them.
2. Guyett - scum
Their response to pressure doesn't seem genuine. The self-vote seems like a gambit and putting a read of themselves didn't sit well with me. Everyone is going to call themselves town.
5. Brian Skies - town
I didn't like their exchange with Shiny but their explanation and saying they were confused seemed genuine to me. Since then they have been encouraging conversation and scum hunting.
7. Shiny Hydreigon - town
Can anyone argue they aren't town? They generate discussion. They call people on everything they do. They push people to actually contribute.
8. Bert - Null
I am changing this read. I can't find anything I find especially scummy about them. They seem to be very fair with how they play as well.
9. Viera Assassin - Null
Mostly gut. I don't know much about Saki except what others have told me. They haven't done anything I deemed scummy. Because of my changing my Bert read I am not comfortable with putting Saki as town.
Like saki made zero posts between these two, but bert being null suddenly makes vierra less town? Bullshit.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:19 pm
by Guyett
Saki still needs rope asap but I would move over to the beast wagon if we're going for him.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:20 pm
by beastcharizard
PoE was being used for Saki along with gut. The fact that I went through Bert's ISO and couldn't find anything that stuck out to me did decrease VA's read. I will call anyone I have a gut read town on town if I think I have already found all the scum but with only 1 scum read i don't feel like I can absolutely call VA town.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:25 pm
by morph the cat
So what did my answer to your post 892 do for you, beast?

What changes if I'm in the hydra or not?

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:26 pm
by morph the cat
In post 895, Guyett wrote:Saki still needs rope asap but I would move over to the beast wagon if we're going for him.
I'm waiting to hear from maradragon on why we should lynch probscum saki over practically claimed scum beast, but you can see where my vote is.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:29 pm
by beastcharizard
I give subs the benefit of the doubt because I know I suck at playing town sometimes. Since you just added a person and they are completely new I can check for correlations between your posts now.