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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:58 am

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My hesitation on MBL is he DID post a hallucination on post #3. No one at that point really had indicated a restriction - and given the fact that other scum had weak claims and didn't bother faking restrictions, it is clear that the scum were not advised they may need to fake a posting restriction. Choosing what to hallucinate about is odd, but why even bother claiming that if faked? Why not just say "I was told I am hallucinating and see animals everywhere"

Of course, my hesitation on twito is he DID go after Elvis pretty hard. But it wouldn't be the first time scum went after one of their own, seriously. Anyone know if there is another game twito was scum in, did he do that?

As for my disability - ADHD. Do I need to go into details about my post restriction? Suffice to see it is annoying....especially at end game.
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:10 pm

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vis, i'd be cool with letting the restrictions slide at this point. it'll help discussion move smoother.
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:18 pm

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I was town with twito in three games. defended him from accusations of weirdness/scumminess in SpeedyKQ's Big NY but he got lynched as town. went after him for excessive verbosity in Big 5-0 and we lynched him as a townie. suspected him strongly in Goofball due to a miscommunication from DG to him and he got lynched as town without my vote.

This game, he's more aggressive on me than he was in those games, but circumstances are different.
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:30 pm

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BJ wrote:Choosing what to hallucinate about is odd, but why even bother claiming that if faked? Why not just say "I was told I am hallucinating and see animals everywhere"
I mentioned this earlier as a townish thing about MBL.
BJ wrote:Anyone know if there is another game twito was scum in, did he do that?
Sorry but there is not. I've never been scum. :P
Well once I was cult leader but that wasn't on these forums. I can point you to that game if you wish.
BJ wrote:Do I need to go into details about my post restriction? Suffice to see it is annoying....especially at end game.
Well if you don't mind.. since I can't figure out how it works..

I've been re-thinking about the no-lynch thing. It's very tricky.
At night I prolly wouldn't die coz of my role.
If MBL is town BJ would get caught. So if MBL is town he would get killed at night.
If MBL is scum thom would prolly die at night. Then I assume MBL would claim to have no movement by BJ since I'm more suspicious of MBL than BJ. And I would end up dead, town would lose.
So basicly if MBL is alive tomorrow I think he is scum. But if BJ is scum he could use this in his advance and not kill MBL. So he could get MBL lynched with me. And again town would lose.
Then again with another day if MBL would die I would vote BJ with Thom. So that's not gonna happen in any case.
That leaves us with only possibly result from another day being dead Thom. And I still wouldn't know nothing more about which one is lying, BJ or MBL.
Then if MBL claimed to have movement of BJ I still wouldn't know whether it's BJ or MBL lying but BJ would know MBL is lying. And if MBL claimed no movement BJ wouldn't know whether it's me or MBL but I would know MBL is lying.

Sorry if this doesn't make any sence but to me it does. And I end up with no use from no-lynch since only result would be dead Thom and we don't want that.
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:25 pm

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of curiosity. You're safe from my vote and therefore a lynch today.

MBL's blurring of restriction and disability is noted.

I personally don't see BJ as a high profile day 1 target. I don't think he's scum, but I would place more money on Twito being targetted, and being saved by his role.

Also it might just be me, but when I'm in a game where we killed the doc and the cop (Day 2) and were entering end-game, I wouldn't track a townie who had claimed a 50% chance of dying if targetted. Maybe N2, but not N3.

Oh and aren't we on day 5 not day 6? The thread title confuses me.
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:08 am

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the_holy_thom wrote:Also it might just be me, but when I'm in a game where we killed the doc and the cop (Day 2) and were entering end-game, I wouldn't track a townie who had claimed a 50% chance of dying if targetted. Maybe N2, but not N3.
If we had an odd number, I'd have tracked someone else, but I could afford to track Twito and not screw up our number of lynches if he died. His claim is one that, if left untouched, can easily make it to endgame without scrutiny and I thought it best to check him out while the numbers were favorable.
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:35 am

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the_holy_thom wrote:Also it might just be me, but when I'm in a game where we killed the doc and the cop (Day 2) and were entering end-game, I wouldn't track a townie who had claimed a 50% chance of dying if targetted. Maybe N2, but not N3.
If we had an odd number, I'd have tracked someone else, but I could afford to track Twito and not screw up our number of lynches if he died. His claim is one that, if left untouched, can easily make it to endgame without scrutiny and I thought it best to check him out while the numbers were favorable.
So basicly what you are saying is that you were suspecting me and decided to check my claim so you investigated me with a risk of killing me even though there were higher suspicion targets available? Well I guess I can understand that. But..
Then you found out that my claim was correct.
And now you are suspecting me coz my claim was correct?
Sorry but that part doesn't make sence...
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:43 am

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MrBuddyLee wrote:
the_holy_thom wrote:Also it might just be me, but when I'm in a game where we killed the doc and the cop (Day 2) and were entering end-game, I wouldn't track a townie who had claimed a 50% chance of dying if targetted. Maybe N2, but not N3.
If we had an odd number, I'd have tracked someone else, but I could afford to track Twito and not screw up our number of lynches if he died. His claim is one that, if left untouched, can easily make it to endgame without scrutiny and I thought it best to check him out while the numbers were favorable.
So basicly what you are saying is that you were suspecting me and decided to check my claim so you investigated me with a risk of killing me even though there were higher suspicion targets available? Well I guess I can understand that. But..
Then you found out that my claim was correct.
And now you are suspecting me coz my claim was correct?
Sorry but that part doesn't make sence...
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:51 am

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Sorry my mistake, not a restriction.
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:13 am

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Twito wrote: Then you found out that my claim was correct.
And now you are suspecting me coz my claim was correct?
Sorry but that part doesn't make sence...
this is a good point
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:15 am

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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:18 am

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VisMaior wrote:
"Er, I mean, yeah, whats a mouse?"

Vyolynce, computer nerd (scum) lynched

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Vyolynce wrote:Aw, Dr. KnowsStuff was cool. He showed me how to use Firefox, but I prefer Internet Explorer!
This post stood out early, and now it makes sense. Either Vyo was just roleplaying, or scum may have a post restriction related to their smartness.
MrBuddyLee wrote:Also, this is weak, but it may have been elvis's post restriction as chessmaster. In her second post:
elvis wrote:unvote; vote Twomz as the latest on the bandwagon, and for being BJ's
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It's the only chess-related term I can find in her entire history besides maybe "jump", which is more of a checkers than a chess term.
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:19 am

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Alright.
unvote, vote MBL
I don;t see how he could truly suspect twito if he really did verify his role - I would think he'd be voting me.
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:31 am

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The only thing that stops me voting now is that Twito could be an untrackable Godfather, which is why he claimed that.

MBL, was your last post proof of anything at all? I think all the scum had to mention at least once a day their speciality. Elvis only lived day 1, so she made one. Vyolynce wrote one every day. Just like you with yours. Shit, I hadn't noticed that Vyolynce had made one post about it every day. Heh, you just signed your own death warrant MBL. right or wrong, you're lynched boyo!
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:36 am

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The way Twito pleaded with us not to investigate him looked like reverse psychology mojo to me, and it made me wonder if he was a godfather scum.

Adding Twito's attacks on me about my lack of claim and then my role to that, whereas BJ was much less reactionary about it. Add that to my belief that BJ was protected N1 based on my track of Twomz, and Twito was still a stronger suspect than BJ after I got a "no result" on him. The only thing that would have cleared him in my mind, after his posts about not investigating him, would have been his death by that investigation.
Twito wrote:So basicly what you are saying is that you were suspecting me and decided to check my claim so you investigated me with a risk of killing me even though there were higher suspicion targets available?
No, i was voting you towards the end of D3, twito, and found you suspicious. That's why i tracked you.

Thom asked me to detail my suspicions of twito and I did so in #671. twito responded defensively, calling my one vote a wagon attempt in #686. I was busy questioning you until I hopped off to hammer Vyolynce.
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:41 am

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used your scum restriction to look like you had a real restriction, and brought the other scum's posts to the town's attention. Risky move, and one that ultimately got you lynched. Why did you make that post? Did you just get fed up? This is all ramblings anyway so I can get a decent amount into the second half of my post, and I don't know if I'll get to post it anyway, so meh.
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:54 am

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Game is over(or almost over incase you, MBL, weren't the last scum..) and in that case I guess you can't answer guestions yet.

But I assume this is it so I wanna know why did you claim that you had to choose between 5 things with your restriction?
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:58 am

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There's no way MBL's the veterinarian, guys, it just doesn't add up. Computer nerd, chessmaster and
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It would have made more sense had he turned out to be, say, i dunno, an
evil physicist
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BJ's restriction is the big elephant in the room that no one seems to want to address. It seems to limit him to a certain number of thoughtful posts a day and the rest is nonsense. He demonstrates
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It's the only chess-related term I can find in her entire history besides maybe "jump", which is more of a checkers than a chess term.
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:08 am

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Ooh, well played I didn't see the physics related stuff at all, and I'm studying the subject for the next four years. Oh well :)

I seriously thought I had you with your "restriction" and what you pointed out from the other scum. Nevermind.

Good guess on me being vanilla as well. That could have backfired totally if you weren't lucky.

Oh and who was targetted N1? Twito or BJ?
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:09 am

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Oh and that restriction annoyed the hell out of me VisMajor. Evil you are.
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:21 am

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Twito, we weren't given safe claims. I knew you were gonna be a bunch of wingnuts, so on a hunch, I posted about hallucinating something in my first post in case it might help later.

Scum did have to post at least once a day with their restriction. chess, computers, physics. Once elvis and vyo were caught I wanted to differentiate my animal thing from their restrictions as much as possible. I know it was risky to draw attention to it, but I was in serious danger of being lynched and needed to up my pro-township with some useful observations. :) I said I got five choices cause it was so strange you might think it just had to be true.

Twomz blocked our BJ kill night one, that bastard.

Thom, it was apparent that the worst restrictions had no powers and the power roles had minimal post restrictions once viper, Twomz, Oslo and ziliu died. I guessed the three of you had none and that tracker was a safe claim to make. If I had claimed vanilla I think I'd have been lynched quicker because of my relatively weak restriction, not sure about that though.
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:51 am

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Loved the game. Gotta be my best game so far :)

And I can't get over this:
Twito, post 569, DAY 2 wrote:Protown:
Twito, ziliu, BabyJesus, the_holy_thom, Osloboditelj, Flying Dutchman(with a change of being an sk)

Possible scum:
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:D I'm just happy with myself not trying to brag too much. Protown list is perfect and I pushed everyone lynched from my possible scum list ;) Damn I'm evil.
Twito wrote:For today I'm now drifting between whether to vote MBL or Vyolynce..

It does make sence for scum to try to get me lynched. With 50% change of surviving during night their best option is to push for my lynch.

The one person I see doing this is idd MBL. With pretty poor reasoning behind that vote I might say. Still I've seen it happen before that he, as an experienced player, is being followed no matter of what.

Also I must concider the possibility of them both being scum. Which atm I feel is very possible.

Sometimes you just gotta follow your guts and my gut points me at MBL and Vyolynce.

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I was pushing very hard behind almost all of our lynches. Leading 'em. Think if I had been scum though.. :P
MBL wrote:I said I got five choices cause it was so strange you might think it just had to be true.
Damn you are good(gotta remember that in possible future games ;)).. That's just the thing that made me doubt when pushing your lynch.

Again my best game so far, I loved the game, I loved my role :)

MBL you gotta stop trying to lynch me. You always get me lynched. Not this time though! ;)

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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:04 am

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lol. Sorry twito....way to stick to your guns on mbl.

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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:05 am

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Twito, you were a star this game, congrats. If only I could have found something hidden in your posts to make you look like the evil mathematician. :(
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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:08 am

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Seriously, would ANYTHING have convinced you guys to lynch BJ or thom? Those post restrictions were totally convincing, as was ziliu's.
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