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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:35 am
by InflatablePie
and 50/50 + 1/4 is still pretty good

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:44 am
by InflatablePie
mala still leaning heavily scum

very angry/reactive this game makes her hard to read

don't like the BBT hammer post wit 'inb4', as I've said
don't like her misrepping BBT in her 'case' against him
don't like her not divulging her meta tell, which plays against town wincon (when the tell was revealed it seems... anticlimactic*)
don't like her suddenly scumreading ns then going over to Marquis then agreeing with marquis about a metaread that's confirmed wrong

*like most of her reasoning. she's been very defensive when prodded about why she does things, and when she does explain it's always 'ugh I did it because [lame reason]' (, )

want
to give her townpoints for the hammer at the same time, as well as for the whole 'I DONT EVEN KNOW ANYMORE' w/r/t reads attitude, but everyone's been saying that this game so obviously I'm tuning that out

gr.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:48 am
by InflatablePie
pants gets townpoints for /

he's been doing scumhunting, and as examples.

reread the interactions I had with him early D1 and it's still confusing me.

wondering why the fuck he's not at least unvoting w/ Marquis joining him but that'll wait

leaning more town on him than scum though

so [Pie/Pants/Bins] town, [Mala] scum so far. yep, still have the same reads I had before

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:54 am
by InflatablePie
if ns is town I think I'm going to attempt to not play with him again. maybe it's because I play mafia so little nowadays that I actually take it fairly seriously when I do play a game. but most of his crap this game has been fluffy/useless, no prodding anyone, no questioning, barely any display of reads

it gets better at parts but goddamn does most of his ISO suck

it's giving me townvibes but like Bins said at some point, fluff apparently gets him townread

that said even though he's been mostly useless I want to give him townpoints

w/e he goes in the nullpile

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:57 am
by Dr Pants
i dont want the ns wagon to lose momentum. im not really worried about a quick lynch happening either, so im pretty comfortable leaving my vote there for now.

before the day started i was thinking it might be ns/marquis, but im going to have to re-read some stuff now that marquis is voting ns.

pedit: this has been my exact issue with ns all game. he's getting away with doing absolutely nothing but buddying up to everyone.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:01 pm
by InflatablePie
bulge iso was a quickread

nothing that scummy, not a TON of usefulness but some of his posts just give me good townvibes

so [Pie/Bins/Pants/Bulge] town, Mala scummy, ns null, Marquis ???

gonna take a break and iso tree/Marquis later (UGH) but unless I'm terribly offbase I think lynching in Mala/ns/Marquis is obviously the right move today; something tells me I'm not getting a townread on Marquis and I'm gonna Occam's Razor Mala/ns and say they're not scum together

woohoo that was useful

pedit - yeah, scum wouldn't bus in this situation.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:04 pm
by Bins
InflatablePie wrote:so [Pie/Bins/Pants/Bulge] town, Mala scummy, ns null, Marquis ???


this is where im at

sucks because i knew it was between mala and ns

im gonna look between the two again

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:05 pm
by Dr Pants
im not sure about that actually. if NS is scum, then im thinking he might have been bussed during the day 1 and day 2 wagons on him. the fact that pressure keeps building and suddenly disbanding could mean that if NS is scum, his partner was bussing him to keep control over how much pressure goes on him.

that's pretty speculative though. more likely scum isnt bussing and i need to do more thinking. the fact that every scenario i work though goes though "NS is definitely scum" might be messing me up.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:05 pm
by Dr Pants
^that was in reply to pie about bussing

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:05 pm
by Bins
ns will be my top choice for today unless he does something

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:06 pm
by Bins
*does something town

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:09 pm
by InflatablePie
I don't see ns being scum with Mala or Marquis though

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:11 pm
by Dr Pants
the thing that made me think NS/Marquis was a possibility was the day 1 wagon on NS that marquis did. It got to l-1, and then marquis suddenly had a town read on NS.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:14 pm
by InflatablePie
like unless scum have been playing incredibly well this game and is in my pile of awesome-town-people I don't see how it isn't Mala and Marquis.

unless anyone wants to propose ideas for scum outside of those three, ns makes the least sense from a pairings perspective

I am going to drink heavily and come back to the game tomorrow, hopefully Majiffy doesn't disappear like BBT

pedit: yeah... I saw Bins point that out when I ISO'd her, how Marquis went from 'nothing to see here except ns is scum' to 'ns is obvtown'

grr.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:16 pm
by InflatablePie
I would say the move is to lynch Marquis, play it safe etc. but the only info we get if we don't lose, is the confirmation of Marquis-scum.

but if we're assuming pairings at this stage, I don't think the confirmation really helps, especially with lack of any other information

w/e, drinking.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:18 pm
by InflatablePie
if we lynch scum today, we're at one scum, three primed townies, two non-primed (assuming they didn't prime maru; that'd be dumb and if Marquis/Mala is scum that's super-dumb)

we either have to lynch scum or a primed townie to win tomorrow.

this is ASSUMING the FF didn't protect correctly.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:20 pm
by InflatablePie
if the FF claiming is not the right move today, we need to all give our 'protect' targets in case scum ignite and we don't immediately lose.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:23 pm
by Dr Pants
if the firefighter even gets 1 person saved, itll really help town. even if we ended up mislynching today the pool will get considerably lower, and if the firefighter is still alive, we could have something like 2 scum v 2 trees + 1 ff. thats actually not terrible for town.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:23 pm
by Dr Pants
ff shouldnt claim today, and should never, under any circumstances, say who was protected.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:43 pm
by Majiffy
Yada yada confirmed town here NS is still town Mala is still scum plus I was the CW to her wagon that I formed.

It really couldn't be any more obvious and that's probably why she hasn't shown her face yet.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:45 pm
by notscience
Nah I'm obvi scum majiffy

I mean look at the compelling reasons to vote me

I'm totally scum

And this wagon is totally not the most moronic thing I've seen in a while

:roll:

Like lmfao

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:45 pm
by notscience
Bins wrote:ns will be my top choice for today unless he does something


Glad to have your vote, citizen

I'll try to do the best with my term as possible.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:48 pm
by notscience
Majiffy wrote:Yada yada confirmed town here NS is still town Mala is still scum plus I was the CW to her wagon that I formed.

It really couldn't be any more obvious and that's probably why she hasn't shown her face yet.


She's been at work since like 3 or so

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:48 pm
by Bins
'wagon'

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:50 pm
by Micc
bump