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In post 875, Killthestory wrote:checking to see whos townreading me

In post 877, zakk wrote:the TBG wagon is stupid because TBG seems very town. i like that he townreads me and agrees with me, and though that's confirmation bias on my part, it's clearly correct to me. and therefore, i have no small amount of disdain for the wagon.

i highly doubt he'd suck up to me for no reason.

In post 638, zakk wrote:

In post 631, MagnaofIllusion wrote:

In post 629, zakk wrote:see who jumps on, see how cy acts, see how much steam it gets, see what happens

currently dissatisfied with that prospect, and pushing another direction

what are your thoughts about that?

I think you are jumpier than a jackrabbit on meth. I'd have to ISO you but I'd guess you've had your vote on at least 5 different people. Which is at this stage a big fat null.

Now once we get some alignment flips and I can parse how you jumped regarding Town and scum ... a different bag of donuts.

Hey since you missed it - have you ever been exposed to someone fake-daykilling before?

okay

and i have no idea. maybe.

why are you asking me useless questions? what do you hope to discover?

In post 879, Titus wrote:

In post 877, zakk wrote:the TBG wagon is stupid because TBG seems very town. i like that he townreads me and agrees with me, and though that's confirmation bias on my part, it's clearly correct to me. and therefore, i have no small amount of disdain for the wagon.

i highly doubt he'd suck up to me for no reason.

And if your reads are wrong?

Scum love sucking up to townies with the wrong reads or are in danger (the latter does not apply to you). I call the players sucked up to townbeards.

In post 883, zakk wrote:killthestory, what do you think of ircher?

would you push an ETL wagon with me?

In post 884, Titus wrote:Zakk, what specifically do you agree with TBG on? Your last posts don't seem to indicate agreement with him, so I am confused.

In post 885, Killthestory wrote:id totally push an ETL wagon

In post 886, zakk wrote:

In post 884, Titus wrote:Zakk, what specifically do you agree with TBG on? Your last posts don't seem to indicate agreement with him, so I am confused.

i find myself nodding at all of his posts, so that means i agree with him

i'm not keeping track of whether or not i'm aligned with him on all issues but he makes sense and it seems real.

In post 885, Killthestory wrote:id totally push an ETL wagon

do it then.

In post 532, TehBrawlGuy wrote:

• drmyshottyizsik - scum. The fervor between him and titus reminds me very much of when I'm scum and want to hard distance a buddy on d1. He claims to have attacked copper, but he really never has, throwing a little bit at him in RVS and then listing him as a scum read. He talked about his incredible confidence in IrcherScum while his vote was on Titus, and he hasn't really done much other than spar with Titus and Ircher despite having 80+ posts.
  
  projectmatt - slight town. I like pretty much all of his points, and I think calling me out on what he did makes the most sense as Town; I don't see a scum motive for it.
  
  zakk - lean town. thought processes match my own and seem internally consistent
  
  Ircher - scum. Don't like his interactions with Shotty or Titus, don't like his 116, or his "remember when I flip town that Shotty and Egg were the two huge activists for the lynch." in 123 His ISO analysis is "trying to look Town by posting lots of things" imo.
  
  copper223
  Egg - town. lots of good insight, clear townie line of logic
  
  SethYazura - lean scum. awful content of nonsense poetry, doesn't really comment on anything important
  
  Killthestory slight town - gut read on tone
  
  cytheflyguy - Scum. I absolutely hate the initial votes on him. They're the most textbook easy unexplained votes I've seen in a while. I was thinking it was a Scum push on a soft target, but his recent posts are really bad for reasons previously stated, and now I'm thinking some of those initial votes were Scum overreactions to his bad entrance.
  
  Aneninen- lean town. thought processes match my own and seem internally consistent
  
  Titus - slight scum. I dislike his interactions with shotty/ircher as mentioned. Only a slight read, though, as his solo content is fine with the exception of 233
  
  EspeciallyTheLies - lean town. I don't recall what they are now, but he had some posts that I read town. I also read his tone town.

In post 887, Killthestory wrote:VOTE: etl

In post 890, Titus wrote:

In post 887, Killthestory wrote:VOTE: etl

I want to wait before switching to ETL if at all. As much as I would feel ETL's behavior is justified as scum, I am much more confident in TBG scum. Go back there please.

In post 870, Titus wrote:Pers hard defends ETL, saying she could have been following me, despite both of us knowing that is likely bullshit.

In post 892, Persivul wrote:

In post 870, Titus wrote:Pers hard defends ETL, saying she could have been following me, despite both of us knowing that is likely bullshit.

Calling you out on a bad charge against ETL is not a defense of ETL. I'm suspicious of ETL as well. See 750 and 766. I haven't done more with it because she's been gone today, but you're here.

In post 804, TehBrawlGuy wrote:

In post 623, zakk wrote:

In post 406, heuristically_alone wrote:

In post 366, cytheflyguy wrote:I have read nothing and everything at the same time. Ircher seems most scum atm so I'll go with him for now

VOTE: Ircher

Your laziness has earned you scum points according to my scum points book

In post 388, Titus wrote:Read his two posts.

In post 389, zakk wrote:

In post 387, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:how is cy the top wagon with only 2 posts?

have you read the posts?

Both Titus and Zakk replied the same thing. I know this should be a null read, but I'm gut reading both Titus and Zakk as town for the moment.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: cytheflyguy

In post 620, heuristically_alone wrote:and VOTE: cytheflyguy

1. you have your own reasons for voting him, but you try to make it funny too
2. you base your actual vote on the fact that titus and i agree about him
3. you forget you voted him, and vote him again? apparently you didn't really believe in your vote when you did it.

bonus: you made some comment to me about that you like being hard to read, which seemed jokey-scummy in sort of a "ha ha let's laugh at this together even though i'm giving the obvious scum answer ha ha ha look how funny everyone"

vote: heuristically_alone

the cy wagon has gotten stale of late, it's a bunch of me-toos, and a cy flip will tell us too little

the ircher wagon is the definition of a lazy wagon on probtown, buuuut it will tell us a lot based on flip, so i will abide it, HOWEVER

hey other people:

come join me on heur, we have cookies. this is the real juiciness of the day right hurr

Agree with this post/10.
Look at heur iso.

It's the definition of coasting. Most of his posts are one liners, and his only stated reads are on me (circa forever ago) and Cy, the easiest wagon in the game. It's a Large, and he has one current read, but he's here enough to answer a question directed at cy in 776 for some reason?

vote heur

In post 823, Aneninen wrote:In post 659, SethYazura wrote:
You can easily single out newbies from an experienced and everyone can do it.
An experienced knows the concequences of posting in the same way as cytheflyguy, cy posted like that because he doesn't.

And. That. Is. Not. An. Alignment. Tell.

In post 827, Aneninen wrote:Heuristic Alone – Were he alone, this'd be the game with the least pages ever.

In post 896, heuristically_alone wrote:

In post 823, Aneninen wrote:In post 659, SethYazura wrote:
You can easily single out newbies from an experienced and everyone can do it.
An experienced knows the concequences of posting in the same way as cytheflyguy, cy posted like that because he doesn't.

And. That. Is. Not. An. Alignment. Tell.

I've noticed that town are more likely to point out things that are not really alignment tells. Scum would want other player coming up with tells and voting others.

Town points for Aneninen

In post 848, Titus wrote:Lowell - Borrowed this from the readwallI started earlier.
heuristically_alone - Lean town. His 76 highlights a logical fallacy and he does this consistently throughout when he thinks he sees them. 400 is good posting as well. 401 Disagree that Shotty is town but I like the attempts to town clear based on play. This becomes much weaker if Shotty is scum though. 402 Slotting someone in as town because agreement = likely noob town.406 is where I have concerns. He's townreading ETL for agreeing yet Zakk and I should be null reads when we agree with him? What? Where'd his position suddenly change

HA, when you read this, I would like your reads until this point.

Conclusion: Lean town, with reservations