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Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:35 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 872, Mumble wrote:
In post 867, Shoshin wrote:
In post 860, Mumble wrote:Why would scum with a RB roleblock an unknown slot versus a known PR?
The obvious reason is because they were killing the known PR.
That's a bad reason. They can keep a known PR useless while PR hunting elsewhere. That's Mafia 101.
Especially since Garuga was not very trusted at all.

Scum don't have a RBer. Period.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:35 am
by Shoshin
In post 870, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 830, JarJarDrinks wrote:So you're saying you believe this is possible?

BlueBloodedToffee
,
Invisibility
,
Mumble
Shoshin. You've danced around the question enough. Is this possible?
Possible, yes. Anything is possible. It's extremely unlikely. In any situation where BBT is scum, Invisibility/Mumble are almost certainly his partners.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:36 am
by Shoshin
In post 875, JarJarDrinks wrote:Especially since Garuga was not very trusted at all.
I strongly read him as town, as did others after his claim, and he was pushing Invisibility with me... very good reasons for scum to want him dead...

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:40 am
by Shoshin
When scum have a roleblocker and know there's a PR, they could roleblock the PR or they could kill the PR. I don't see why Mumble's ruling out the latter option.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:41 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 874, Mumble wrote:
In post 873, JarJarDrinks wrote:BBT is probably a scum PR that his action blocked.
Why?
Because he's scum for sure and it looks like hes trying to out a power roll "Golly Gee why would scum block me?"

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:42 am
by Mumble
In post 878, Shoshin wrote:When scum have a roleblocker and know there's a PR, they could roleblock the PR or they could kill the PR. I don't see why Mumble's ruling out the latter option.
Probability.

As I said, it's Mafia 101 with a RB to neutralize a PR and PR hunt elsewhere. I already said that. You are intentionally ignoring me.

It makes no sense to roleblock an unknown slot when you have a known slot. Do you disagree with that? If so, what is the benefit to doing so?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:43 am
by Mumble
In post 879, JarJarDrinks wrote:Because he's scum for sure and it looks like hes trying to out a power roll "Golly Gee why would scum block me?"
If he's scum, he's made himself an easy lynch. Why is he scum for sure?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:43 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
JJD, go and have a lie down.

If someone puts Invisibility to L-1 I'll hammer him

Pedit - I find it highly unlikely I was roleblocked or jailkept tbh.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:44 am
by Mumble
Why are we lynching Invis over Shoshin?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:45 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 352, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 340, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 250, northsidegal wrote:
VC 1.04
Shoshin
(3): Mumble, JarJarDrinks, Invisibility
This wagon though.
Do u townread Shoshin?
In post 353, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Yeah, one of my strongest town reads.

In post 842, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm claiming Town Loyal Fruit Vendor and I visited Shoshin last night. She should have received fruit from me but she is saying she has no idea of anything. My action only fails if I target scum.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:45 am
by Shoshin
In post 880, Mumble wrote:Probability.

As I said, it's Mafia 101 with a RB to neutralize a PR and PR hunt elsewhere. I already said that. You are intentionally ignoring me.

It makes no sense to roleblock an unknown slot when you have a known slot. Do you disagree with that? If so, what is the benefit to doing so?
Just because you say something is "mafia 101" doesn't mean it is or that it's the likely choices mafia made in this game.

It makes sense to roleblock an unknown slot when you kill the known slot, which is what the mafia did. Why are you ignoring the fact that mafia killed Garuga?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:46 am
by JarJarDrinks
Everyone can vote BBT now

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:46 am
by Shoshin
I'm not lynching BBT before I lynch Invisibility/Mumble.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:47 am
by Shoshin
JJD, you agree that Invisibility is 100% mafia if BBT's mafia, right? Where we disagree is about Mumble's connection?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:49 am
by JarJarDrinks
Did U miss 884? BBT screwed his claim up. He's obviously not handing fruit to his townreads.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:50 am
by Mumble
In post 885, Shoshin wrote:
In post 880, Mumble wrote:Probability.

As I said, it's Mafia 101 with a RB to neutralize a PR and PR hunt elsewhere. I already said that. You are intentionally ignoring me.

It makes no sense to roleblock an unknown slot when you have a known slot. Do you disagree with that? If so, what is the benefit to doing so?
Just because you say something is "mafia 101" doesn't mean it is or that it's the likely choices mafia made in this game.

It makes sense to roleblock an unknown slot when you kill the known slot, which is what the mafia did. Why are you ignoring the fact that mafia killed Garuga?
There is no benefit to killing a slot that you can neutralize while killing elsewhere. None. Maybe on your homesite they may do that, but a quality player here will not. It is standard advice that was given in the Newbie queue when Matrix 6 was the setup.

I'm not participating in your tunneling anymore. You did this with me, and now you are doing it with the RB scenario. Fuck off.

Lynch this pls.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:52 am
by Shoshin
In post 889, JarJarDrinks wrote:Did U miss 884? BBT screwed his claim up. He's obviously not handing fruit to his townreads.
I don't understand? You're saying the only townie way to use the role is to target scumreads?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:52 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 888, Shoshin wrote:JJD, you agree that Invisibility is 100% mafia if BBT's mafia, right? Where we disagree is about Mumble's connection?
OMG stop saying Mumbles. Mumbles obviously is not getting lynched today. Not a chance.

How do you not want to want to lynch someone practically claiming a guilty on u?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:52 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 891, Shoshin wrote:
In post 889, JarJarDrinks wrote:Did U miss 884? BBT screwed his claim up. He's obviously not handing fruit to his townreads.
I don't understand? You're saying the only townie way to use the role is to target scumreads?
You read what he said the role does right?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:54 am
by Shoshin
In post 890, Mumble wrote:There is no benefit to killing a slot that you can neutralize while killing elsewhere. None. Maybe on your homesite they may do that, but a quality player here will not. It is standard advice that was given in the Newbie queue when Matrix 6 was the setup.
Yeah, the advice you received in the context of Matrix 6 doesn't inherently apply to every game, it applies to that setup. The number of strategies that scum employ doesn't end there, that's just the beginning of what scum do. It's absurd that you're taking advice given to newbies in Matrix 6 and applying it here, in a different setup, with players who aren't new to the game, lol...

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:56 am
by Mumble
HOLY SHIT YOU ARE DUMB!!!!

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:57 am
by Shoshin
In post 893, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 891, Shoshin wrote:
In post 889, JarJarDrinks wrote:Did U miss 884? BBT screwed his claim up. He's obviously not handing fruit to his townreads.
I don't understand? You're saying the only townie way to use the role is to target scumreads?
You read what he said the role does right?
Yeah, I did. I think I get what you're saying but can you spell this out more clearly please.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:58 am
by Mumble
The point of the Newbie queue is to teach site meta and how to play in this site. I suggest you go join a game.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:58 am
by Shoshin
You know, it's possible to disagree with someone about how to play mafia without calling the other person dumb...

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:00 am
by Shoshin
As for "site meta," that shit's constantly changing... people try out different strategies to push the game further... anything that's "established meta" is always subject to challenge in the next game...