: skitter30, The Dark Wanderer, northsidegal, Raya36
Gamma Emerald
: The Dark Wanderer, northsidegal, Gamma Emerald, YurikoJasmine
DVa
: The Dark Wanderer, DVa, Gamma Emerald, northsidegal
northsidegal
: northsidegal, Raya36, probs a robot
YurikoJasmine
: YurikoJasmine, The Dark Wanderer, Not_Mafia
Not_Mafia
: none proposed
with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 1 ends november 28th at 23:00 central US time; in 4 dog years and 7 boat-miles
continuing to replace raya and yurikojasmine . . .
skitter is VLA on fridays and saturdays
micro 833: a coalition
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:57 pm
by northsidegal
okay i so i think the not mafia slot actually has really decent scum equity so i'm going to try some partner hunting, perhaps specifically on the slots that i'm least sure about (dva, robot mainly)
i will say just from memory that it makes skitter look worse in my mind given her initial response to tes' posting which got him scumread by myself and TDW
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:01 pm
by northsidegal
i mean perhaps it's just different times producing different results but NM was in the first coalition game that ran and he was pretty enthusiastic about his "broalition" there (even ending up in the consensus coalition, if you all can believe that)
so yeah. even if he does end up being town i would still say it'd be the correct move to have excluded him
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:24 pm
by northsidegal
oh, i know who probs a robot is i think. okay, i think he's almost certainly town here.
In post 846, probs a robot wrote:@skitter i'm gonna have to bug you again sorry
you mentioned you saw some townlike/what-tes-does-as-town-like stuff from tes early on. could you point me to it?
I am now exactly 47% more interested in this than I was before!
i don't have much motivation/energy for mafia today, so i'm going to hold off going through that wall bit-by-bit till probably sunday
but basically i remember him in that game being try-hard; efforting; lynch-bait-y and not realizing he came off as being lynch-baity; kinda tone-deaf to that sort of thing if that makes sense; i remember a couple of people saying they would want to push him if he weren't effectively conftown; i may have even said that, i don't remember
his early walls (like 48, 52) here kinda gave off that same try-hard-lynch-bait-y feel to me, if that makes sense
like it looks/feels kinda surface-level scummy by asking kinda pointless questions and being overly try-hard by commenting on like every other post, if that makes sense
but that's kinda how i remember him from that newbie
i didn't really have a problem with his entrance, and i don't think flaking is particularly ai either tbh
like the walls feel more like 'newb tryhard that wants to contribute' than 'asking pointless questions to fill up space' to me if that makes sense
i also feel like it's a fine read for page3 or whatever it was, not nearly as good for page35
despite thinking that the way that skitter reacted to tes' early posting is partner indicative, the fact that she still maintains that it's valid to me makes it seem like it's more likely to be something she actually believes, especially given that she's saying that while still scumreading NM (and being cognizant of that). i would at least imagine that scum!skitter, if switching to a scumread on NM, would be more likely to say something like "oh looking back it's not really much to go off of" or something like that.
perhaps i'm understimating skitter's ability or something like that, but maintaining that your reasons to townread a predecessor while simultaneously townreading the person who replaced them seems like the kind of odditiy that you don't see often that just comes from town who actually have that belief rather than scum just making things up.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:09 pm
by probs a robot
I agree about skitter's early interactions with Tes. I wasn't absolutely sold on scum!Tes earlier in the game but I figured even if he was town, skitter felt too confident in the read
now that she's elaborated i actually don't dislike where she was coming from with it; also when you have experience with lynchbaity players i think it's actually pretty instinctual to over-defend them a bit even when you are town at least, it's something i've caught myself doing more than once.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:13 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I tried to get started on the next batch and thought I was on track but I keep stalling because there’s a dead zone where nothing catches my eye
I’ll keep working on it but it’ll take some time
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:11 am
by skitter30
In post 866, DVa wrote:But there's no way you're both scum, one of the two of you is just a playstyle conflict, and with the lurkers and replace outs and frozen deadline I'm just like... meh
In post 872, probs a robot wrote:i think maybe this is something scum!skitter tries to do when playing with people with a lot of experience with her who she needs to change the reads of, but probably not something that naturally occurs to skitter to do as a wolf in an isolated situation
i mean nsg was aware of my scumplay in both gerrymandering and pick your poison (although tbf to the latter i'm not sure how much she was following? idk)
but yeah for the most part except for her in this playerlist there isn't really anyone i'd be too worried about as scum tbh, except for like you but i didn't know it was you at that point; i think i figured it out during that convo; like people in this pl have largely not really seen my scumplay and i could get by with like generically-looking-towniness probably just fine tbh
like it would *occur* to me to insert myself into that convo, but it's not something i would bother trying to effort in that gamestate really if that makes sense
also you know how i react to real-time convos as scum
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In post 881, northsidegal wrote:if switching to a scumread on NM, would be more likely to say something like "oh looking back it's not really much to go off of" or something like that.
i mean i did say something along the lines of 'that was a valid read for that stage of the game, not so much for this stage'
In post 878, northsidegal wrote:oh, i know who probs a robot is i think. okay, i think he's almost certainly town here.
Can you expand on the nature of this meta read? I know you don't want to out him, but I'd like to know what sort of metric you're using
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:48 am
by DVa
In post 883, Gamma Emerald wrote:I tried to get started on the next batch and thought I was on track but I keep stalling because there’s a dead zone where nothing catches my eye
I’ll keep working on it but it’ll take some time
Maybe just ignore the garbage and focus on the shit that isn't NAI?
I was feverposting during the skitter meta discussion, some of the language I used was tantamount to a private alt slip. I was considering outing on the alt just so it was a more even playing field but uh yeah..
"Ruby'd" is a private joke - just means I mainslipped while posting in character.
GOD, DAMMIT
I think that might change how your posts look
Fuck me...
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:01 am
by DVa
OK well hopefully this will mean everyone can stop being so oblique with their meta reads
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:01 am
by northsidegal
In post 896, probs a robot wrote:I was feverposting during the skitter meta discussion, some of the language I used was tantamount to a private alt slip. I was considering outing on the alt just so it was a more even playing field but uh yeah..
haha, i really did think that one thing you said was kind of unique and just decided to try being ellibereth for a second