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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:50 am
by Tana and Ephraim
Evenstar's pretty transparently scum.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:50 am
by gameplay506
What is eventide even doing

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:52 am
by Dannflor
but wait let her post a reads list

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:04 am
by Tana and Ephraim
Wait my hydra partner already voted Evenstar.

I'm super proud of Tana rn

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:07 am
by Tana and Ephraim
In post 878, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Wait my hydra partner already voted Evenstar.

I'm super proud of Tana rn
Haha, thanks!
-Tana

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:08 am
by RCEnigma
In post 826, gameplay506 wrote:
In post 138, Titus wrote:
In post 130, gameplay506 wrote:Idk most players have been joking but Titus is the only one who left an odd feeling in me
Same with bitmap but replace odd with good

Oof sorry if I'm being too serious and ruining the fun, I will go back to my rl now :shifty:
Ok 5 bucks based on everything that's happened gameplay is seriously scum here. Bitmap's likely scum or useful to them.

VOTE: Gameplay

RC's voting based on vendetta.
Pops is voting to get a reaction.
Cafe getting a counter wagon going in RVS isn't an issue at all. I might have done the same.

Gameplay's posting however is over justified. Titus has an "odd" feeling. Bitmap has a "good" feeling. Yet he breaks the posting up into several posts and is real defensive about it.

Pops, real life does suck. I'd rather not think about it. I put it elsewhere but there's real high odds I'm getting a divorce.
Hm idk RCE I don't see Titus trying to solve me here, I see Titus banging her fist on the table, going GP is scum, while providing some pretty made-up reasoning for it.

And the fact that she just continues to read me in the same way 15 pages later with still minimal effort to solve me out makes me think she is just comfortable keeping that read and not comfortable backing out of it.
Well she's already decided you're scum. If she had flipped the read I'd probably be suspicious of her. This is in her townrange however.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:13 am
by popsofctown
I made a level 2 Moze under a popsofctown account

Imma catch up here after dinner

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:16 am
by Lady Eventide
In post 868, Dannflor wrote:Lady Even where are your reads at right now?

Be as thorough as you can
Right now...

Frankly I don't have a lot. But of the people I've interacted with/can recall, 5 minute version so as not to get interrupted again:

LLD:
Inscrutable, but I don't like how she seems to be ducking all inquiries. I know she loves mafia, so her silence is concerning.
Cop:
Scummy in a vague kind of way; I don't like them, I want to see more. I had a better reason but I've lost it somewhere.
Sailor Senshi:
Were lurking, which is a pet peeve of mine, and also were a source of the thread blowup, but TBQH my vote here was crappy and I ought to have known better. They've defended themselves well since and I think their reactions are towny. Not going back here today unless I find a very good reason, esp given the number of hops on here. (Who else was on this? God I want the VCA tools from MU.)
Tana and Ephraim:
Are currently pinging me very hard, both for tone reasons and because they're throwing shade at me but don't actually seem to want to lynch me. I feel like they're reading me as a weak town player they can mislynch later. Also they called me "a weak scum" when my scumgame LITERALLY GOT ME TO THE FINALE OF THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. Seriously? Have clearly not done any background meta on me whatsoever and ignored my previously posted scumgame.
Cafe Stiles:
Seems towny but fluffy at a first impression. Haven't looked into deeper, should.
Groar
Croag:
Scummy, because reasons.
Katsuki:
Is being weird, but I
think
it's a town kind of weird? Overall I want to see more and would not vote here right now.
Gameplay:
... I think they're town. I don't like how they play the game, but I think they're town. They seem to be motivated more by solving than by pushing for lynches, and that's good. Dislike them keeping me as a 'reserve lynch', but w/e.
Taristra
Titus:
Giving me very mixed signals, needs solving... but is posting enough, and is already under enough pressure, that I don't want to vote them right now. Would lynch Tana over them, would lynch them over Gameplay. Don't think that Sailor Senshi are scum rn, and that's a strike against them for an easy inactive push.
RCEnigma:
Gives me experienced-player vibes, but otherwise too early to judge alignment IMO. Gun to head, town.
DrDolittle:
Barely exists. I think he's voting me? Post seemed inoffensive at the time. Let me ISO fast he's only got 10 posts. First and apparently only
serious
vote... is on me, and IMO seems a bit opportunistic now. I was at what, three votes here? Deserves some investigation/pressure.
Bitmap:
No real read, should probably go back and look at esp. given his mentions and apparently having attracted some votes? Hm.
Hidden Happiness, Chaos Wind:
are both 2p hydras with nine posts. Need to contribute more.
Gamma Emerald:
Despite their vote on me there's nothing else in their ISO I can really complain about. They're just town.
Dannfor:
Likely town; you seem to be trying to solve me, rather than immediately writing me off as scum. I could be getting pocketed, but your ISO looks decent at a skim.

I hope I'm not missing anyone; activity list has a couple other people but I think they're parts of hydrae?

@Dannfor: I'll elaborate on this if you like but this is what I have in my head rn.

@Gameplay: her best

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:17 am
by Tana and Ephraim
We're
literally
voting you right now

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:21 am
by Gamma Emerald
Eventide, I didn't vote you lol

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:23 am
by Tana and Ephraim
My opinion of MU championships is already low enough that you claiming that your scum game made it there doesn't change my opinion of either your scumgame or MU championships

shrugemoticon

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:24 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 882, Lady Eventide wrote:Cop: Scummy in a vague kind of way; I don't like them, I want to see more. I had a better reason but I've lost it somewhere.
Who is this cop person btw
FYI I think your thoughts are okay for now but I haven't really dug into your post at all for underlying logic.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:28 am
by Lady Eventide
In post 883, Tana and Ephraim wrote:We're
literally
voting you right now
I'm talking about post #847, where you literally say you're "not in a particular rush to lynch [me] because
seem like weak scum." And just say that I'm scum "for various reasons", without actually giving them.

Also you were literally the person who asked me for my past scumgame. What conclusions did you come to regarding my play, based on that game that I provided? That I was
weak scum?
Did I do absolutely nothing of note to you in that game?

@GammaEmerald: PopsofCtown. My brain fucks things up, sorry.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:30 am
by Lady Eventide
ah fuck I did square brackets around I and it fucked everything up let me fix that \

EBWOP:

I'm talking about post #847, where you literally say you're "not in a particular rush to lynch (me) because (I) seem like weak scum." And just say that I'm scum "for various reasons", without actually giving them.

Also you were literally the person who asked me for my past scumgame. What conclusions did you come to regarding my play, based on that game that I provided? That I was
weak scum?
Did I do absolutely nothing of note to you in that game?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:31 am
by Gamma Emerald
Ah thanks

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:31 am
by Tana and Ephraim
I noticed several tonal tics that I find to be also present here that are present in significantly lower quantities in the town games that I read.
Yes, I said I was in no rush to lynch you. I said that about all of my other scumreads as well because like I have said many times forcing content out of lurkers is a high priority for me.
I did express before that wallpost that I intended to vote you (if we hadn't already been voting you) so claiming that I'm trying to keep you around as a later mislynch is inaccurate at best.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:33 am
by Lady Eventide
Also,

@Lady Lambdadelta:
You've played with me as scum.

1: What's your honest evaluation of my skill as scum? You ought to be an authority on this more than anybody else here.
2: Does it make sense that Tana might think I have a weak scumgame after reading WC1?

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:37 am
by Tana and Ephraim
In post 891, Lady Eventide wrote:2: Does it make sense that Tana might think I have a weak scumgame after reading WC1?
I read what?
-Tana

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:37 am
by Tana and Ephraim
All of the above is Ephraim posting, the request for your scumgames/towngames was from Ephraim as well. This is from Ephraim!

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:40 am
by Lady Eventide
In post 890, Tana and Ephraim wrote:I noticed several tonal tics that I find to be also present here that are present in significantly lower quantities in the town games that I read.
Yes, I said I was in no rush to lynch you. I said that about all of my other scumreads as well because like I have said many times forcing content out of lurkers is a high priority for me.
I did express before that wallpost that I intended to vote you (if we hadn't already been voting you) so claiming that I'm trying to keep you around as a later mislynch is inaccurate at best.
... You're as of yet still not convincing me that you've actually read the scumgame. If you've read my ISO there's a big goddamn obvious
thing
I did in the game I linked, and you've
completely failed to mention it.


Here's a hint for you:

Image

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:42 am
by Lady Eventide
In post 890, Tana and Ephraim wrote:I noticed several tonal tics that I find to be also present here that are present in significantly lower quantities in the town games that I read.
Yes, I said I was in no rush to lynch you. I said that about all of my other scumreads as well because like I have said many times forcing content out of lurkers is a high priority for me.
I did express before that wallpost that I intended to vote you (if we hadn't already been voting you) so claiming that I'm trying to keep you around as a later mislynch is inaccurate at best.
Re: the rest of your post: we agree on forcing content from lurkers at least. I still dislike that you hedged in case this went badly for you.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:43 am
by Tana and Ephraim
I put very little stock in what most people consider alignment indicative content and a lot of stock in stuff that most people wouldn't even think to consider alignment indicative.
How people say and do things is to me far more important than what people actually say and do and your entire list on how to read you is the latter rather than the former.

~Ephraim
Re: the rest of your post: we agree on forcing content from lurkers at least. I still dislike that you hedged in case this went badly for you.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:46 am
by Lady Eventide
In post 896, Tana and Ephraim wrote:I put very little stock in what most people consider alignment indicative content and a lot of stock in stuff that most people wouldn't even think to consider alignment indicative.
How people say and do things is to me far more important than what people actually say and do and your entire list on how to read you is the latter rather than the former.

~Ephraim
Re: the rest of your post: we agree on forcing content from lurkers at least. I still dislike that you hedged in case this went badly for you.
Swing and a miss x

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:48 am
by Dannflor
Dannfor dannfloor dancefloor damnflor

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:49 am
by Tana and Ephraim
Also I am required to be as vague as possible on this given that you linked a still-ongoing game.