Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[Sujimichi]

I disagree that I needed encouragement to vote Titus (and I didn't need a greenlight from you). I wanted to interact with her prior to placing my vote, which is what I did. I would also like to point out that people saying they were okay with voting someone and then being reluctant to do so would indicate the person being voted was more likely to be scum.

I've been providing my reasoning for my reads and actions. I don't think that's scummy. I think that's part of how you figure out the game. You seem to be projecting yourself onto my actions, and I think that's a bad basis for generating a read on someone as they are not you.

[Sujimichi]

But, thank you for a genuine response.

[Awoo]

Man, if I was able to play mafia against myself, I would have a perfect record

[Sujimichi]

[GuiltyLion]

Sigh. People will just keep beating on the dead horse that "he hammer town!" as an argument for every day from now on so i've half given up. I'm just hoping the town will find the real scum if i flip.

this is really all you have to say?

[GuiltyLion]

idk I still want Titus but there's not a lot of time left and I was planning on hammering around this point since idk if we'll get anything more of value from Titus

I also agree with Suji's 875 that a feeling of reluctance to lynch is a sign of a good wagon, not a bad one. I was specifically withholding my vote from Titus and I and others basically had to call out pisskop a few times to get him to vote back there.

without looking back, I know why PM and Joey are voting nEE, I don't really feel I know why Creature is voting nEE and Titus' vote is self-preservation

[GuiltyLion]

since this is looking like a nEE lynch now and not a Titus lynch I'm gonna wait to hammer until later this afternoon, maybe another 6-7 hours if anyone else has more to say

Creature if you see this please address why you think nEE is scum I just rechecked your ISO and there's not really anything there on that front

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: Titus

this puts both wagons at L-1

in case a nEE voter sees reason to switch. But I promise I won't let deadline expire with no lynch and I'll be back throughout today in case my vote is needed on nEE

[Awoo]

Titus says the reluctance to lynch meant she was being shaded by scum, you guys say its because shes scum.

So I think where I'm at, and I think where most of us conversing are at is that if we are TvTvT, the best lynch is norwegianboy, and if we are TvTvS, the most likely S is titus.

UNVOTE:

[Awoo]

^ That unvote is a vote on titus in spirit.

@Guiltylion, this game doesn't have no-lynches, a 5-5 tie would be broken by whichever wagon got to 5 first. Before I unvoted, that would be norwegianboy, but now that I unvoted it would be titus if I was to revote.

[GuiltyLion]

So I think where I'm at, and I think where most of us conversing are at is that if we are TvTvT, the best lynch is norwegianboy, and if we are TvTvS, the most likely S is titus.

yeah this feels like a fair summary to me.

I still think in a vacuum TvTvT is less likely than TvTvS, especially with this group of three, but it's kinda hard to

really

walk down that reasoning without it starting to feel like WIFOM/guessing what scum would do

also good to know about the lynches but kinda disappointed because that takes away a lot of pressure on everyone to choose the lynch and ensure that hammer occurs

regardless shouldn't you be voting nEE again? or are you back to TvTvS?

[Awoo]

Yeah, I'd rather try TvTvS and just stop thinking for the rest of the day. Too many thoughts.

[Menalque]

Okay I’m not reresding cause I was busy today but I did ISO titus yesterday and concluded there was nothing really there to make me think that she wa town and to want to flip the lynch

I still think good odds of this flipping scum but don’t have time to go into the reasons rn

I’ll try to tomorrow if we’re still lynching by plurality

I think the fact that we have two wagons competing this hard is prob scum indicative tho

[Menalque]

Inb4 “Menalque is setting up a mislynch train!”

[Awoo]

Declaring intent to hammer titus once I go to bed and wake up, which could be as soon as 10 hours.

[chennisden]

VC 2.9:

Titus (5)	Menalque 391, NorwegianboyEE 479, Sujimichi 709, pisskop 818, GuiltyLion 882
NorwegianboyEE (4)	PMysterious, 492, Titus 474, Creature 804, Joey_ 834
GuiltyLion (0)
Not Voting (1)	Awoo 883

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2019-10-15 12:05:08).

VOTE: nEE I forgot i unvoted (apparently the mod forgot too)

pretend i remembered

[Awoo]

Seems like I waited for nothing, but okay.

VOTE: titus

[Joey_]

Don’t feel bad, it’s most likely TvTvT anyway

[Joey_]

Awoo who are you gunning for if
Titus flip town?
Titus flip mefia?

[Awoo]

titus flip town: it was going to be suji but uhhhh

titus flip mafia: PM

wbu?

[PMysterious]

I'm willing to ask a similar thing. If Titus flips town, then Suji is a likely suspect. If he flips Mafia, then, I don't know what I'll do. I don't think he'll flip Mafia given the circumstances of this day, but if he does, then I'll try to keep an open mind.

I still think Norwegian was the better lynch of the three, but again, I'm fine with a Titus lynch if that's what the majority wants to do.

[Joey_]

I think we should read more than 1 slot at a time

[Joey_]

titus flip town: it was going to be suji but uhhhh

titus flip mafia: PM

wbu?

I am thinking that I should reread the game. I have townreads and deepwolf reads but no obvious srs

[chennisden]

hammertime

[chennisden]

lets end this