Open 768: C9++ - Mafia PT

[Wickedestjr]

Volpe, please stop with the defeatist attitude. I understand that the game can get really frustrating. Sometimes ya just gotta detach yourself from the situation and look at it objectively. Or just take a short break.

I know I haven't always been the best example of staying positive, myself, but still...

I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just being frank with you. I've enjoyed being partners with you but the negativity feels kinda toxic to me. Mena and I aren't giving up.

[Wickedestjr]

We're still in good shape. I feel like we're gonna win but we have to bring our A-game right now.

We just need one more person to vote DDL and we win. Soooo cloooseee.

You're playing great.

[Volpe14]

I'm considering replacing out.

They would have lost anyway with the way things were going but HOLY SHIT DO THEY NEED TO MAKE ME PLAY ONE EXTRA DAY OF ENDURING ARGUING

Right now they have a more solid chance of realizing the plan though

[Volpe14]

like wooper don't shit with my face

if I had kept at wicked you never really don't vote either drdol or mena later

why the hell not just vote right now

it's like

fucking frustating man. you were going to make me play one or two more days just to play it.

now plan is kind of ruined but /shrug

[Volpe14]

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[Wickedestjr]

I see what you're saying; it shouldn't make a difference which order they lynch.

I feel like this is the result of you and Wooper having different win conditions. Scum want to get the game over with. Town want to unravel the puzzle and avoid mis-lynching in MyLo. Personally, I think if I were town I would want to drag the game out and go for the 50-50 shot today even if I'm setting myself up to lose later on anyways. But as scum, I feel quite the opposite - I want to finish this asap.

If you are getting burnt out, then I hope you would opt to take a short break/VLA before choosing to replace out. We need you man.

[Volpe14]

No I'm probably gonna replace out I just want to make it look NAI.

[Volpe14]

I wanted so hard to be town and just come to thread and post my read list mostly but I had to roll scum twice in a roll

in two hyper exhausting games.

...

[Wickedestjr]

FWIW, I don't think any of us wanted to be scum in this game. Just kinda how it goes.

[Volpe14]

It's not about being scum is just that I'm trying to win the game and I wouldn't be really trying to win as town you know

[Volpe14]

Sigh last post

let's try recover damage from this

mena tone down on the scum!volpe = scum!wooper it's a bit of an overkill, I'm already doing the dirty work of associatives

wicked idk, just get my ass lynched here I suppose

[Volpe14]

I'm gonna subtly try to make it look like the spat was a threate to convince skitt/egix to vote wicked

get my ass lynched here and this is a better shoot.

[Volpe14]

I need to say though, sorry, I did some heavy damage to the plan

but /shrug I can't control my emotions

[Volpe14]

@nomnom redact #880 here when you're about to realize this if you could

Gonna talk about possibilities

[Volpe14]

If I get lynched here, you've those options to pass the night mena:

You claim RB'ed, Wicked claim a clear on you and you need to lynch wooper/nor here. If any of you get lynched it's game over for you with this gambit. Not necessarily a bad plan. It's a high risk high reward take.

You both claim RB'ed, people will probably want to lynch in you.

Instead of NK'ing Egix you NK someone you would "shoot" (can't be wooper/nor though if I'm the lynched one of course), I think drdol would be best shot in this option but it's not really believable to be fair

Wicked claim RB'ed, you claim to have shot skitter and was either roleblock'ed or skitt is 1-shot BP, you don't know which one.

In all cases here other than trying to pedal a vig on drdol you probably NK Egix.

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If Wicked gets lynched you've the same options but should be careful on who you vig. Norwe might have a hard time believing this was a cop theater therefore it's not optimal to NK him, and wooper can still be pushed as Volpe/Wicked/Wooper team in an emergency situation, the reason being that either Wooper or Wicked was going to get lynched and without the claims, and I was scared of people finding associatives, therefore we made this theater to make sure at least one of us endgame. (This is what you gonna push in a worst case scenario of wicked getting lynched/your endgame possibility)

Ah, if I get lynched I don't think my slot should claim a clear on you though neither to be fair.

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Next day don't go too hungry for the honey, the more you try to frame wooper the more it's gonna be suspicious of a set-up. The suspicious is gonna be natural (or would be, dunno now), therefore trying to repeatedly say it is gonna back fire.

[Volpe14]

Don't push it before people start on their own, but arguments here for wooper scum is that I don't have any reason to defend town!wooper since I could have simply tried to mislynch the weakest slot here and win the game.

I wanted to force a perfect victory as an ego-show against skitter, that's what you gonna sell I guess.

[Volpe14]

Actually if wicked get lynched here, mena you probably should NK skitter, claim that it was your vig shot because you were paranoid, and my slot claim RB'ed.

You probably get lynched but that means we've a explanation for me not dying in Night 4 by killing egix without the RB being alive.

Last day my slot claim a CLEAR on Drdol because it would be DDCCV which means there would be a godfather alive. Claiming a guilty last day is gonna out us as scum. I'm not sure, play around drdol but maybe if you want you can paranoia a wicked/wooper team that wanted to distance themselves after I claimed clear on wooper because they knew wicked would be probably lynched against me (and that would give wooper credit to endgame).

Sorry I should have taken the easier win path since people don't have balls in these games and it's no fun to gambit against. They just want to drag out the game in a silly way.

[Volpe14]

I wanted to put a show to entertain town but the unique thing I get is some really boring dragging out that stressed me

if they were like "ok this is wicked/volpe14" I would "lol come the fuck on", but instead they are

"it's probably not wicked/volpe but I don't wanna vote out of it today even though without that AtE/drdol's vote I would not have voted against that :c"

I'm done here.

[Volpe14]

The explanation of why mafia would NK skitt at the same time that you was because mafia was paranoid of skitt being a SK

It makes at least somewhat of a sense.

[Volpe14]

In reality to be fair it doesn't because mafia would know if skitt was SK or not by seeing if they have godfather or not in this situation, but they are probably not gonna notice that little detail?

[Volpe14]

You can also try to make it look like it's a skitter double kill vigshot/nightkill with my slot being lynched to be fair menalque. Not sure if it's optimal in that case though.

Or you claim RB'ed and wicked claim a clear on you. Not bad either.

[Volpe14]

@my replacement

Your slot has already claimed full cop with N1 in teacher, N2 in wooper, both clears.

They are gonna ask you it to try to fool you into claiming something else, claim full cop and read this mafia thread to understand what's the schemes here.

[Volpe14]

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