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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:08 pm
by Hectic
In post 460, ObviousScum wrote:PT buddy: BS
d1 Town: Kanna
d1 not CL: Hectic
not likely town: Bingle
Remaining: Farkran, Not A Korina Alt, Poyzin, shos
In post 572, ObviousScum wrote:Hectic's early capslock posts don't really feel like a CL trying to slip under the radar
In post 852, ObviousScum wrote:seriously reread the game from the POV of Hec CL / poyz rolecop and see if it doesn't fit
How do you go from Hectic-not CL to Hectic most likely CL? What changed?
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:09 pm
by Kanna
But what if the cultists didn't recruit Korina yesterday because everyone expected them to and he would be seen as unreliable today anyway?
Also I was theorising Hectic got the FN message but since it seems like he hasn't, then yeah shos/poyzin are both cult. I didn't get it and no one else seems to have gotten it either. I think Korina's result could be very useful.
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:10 pm
by ObviousScum
I got a bingle flip and reevaluated the game over night
knowing that one Orig.Cult is within {sho/poy} that means I can't write off your weird early tone as being 'not what I expect a CL to be doing' when it's possible you were just excited about being CL
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:10 pm
by ObviousScum
why would scum ever recruit korina n1
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:12 pm
by Farkran
There's something i specifically expect korina to say if he's cult, and something he'd say if he's still town.
Wouldn't say very useful, but not useless either.
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:17 pm
by Hectic
Lul, is this why you're CLreading me? Do you have any other reasons?
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:19 pm
by Hectic
In post 876, Kanna wrote:But what if the cultists didn't recruit Korina yesterday because everyone expected them to and he would be seen as unreliable today anyway?
Also I was theorising Hectic got the FN message but since it seems like he hasn't, then yeah shos/poyzin are both cult. I didn't get it and no one else seems to have gotten it either. I think Korina's result could be very useful.
It is technically possible that they recruit someone like Obum, to set him on a course to derail the next day. Which kinda fits with how he comes out attacking me/Farkran today. It'd make sense if you or Bla was the CL.
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:19 pm
by ObviousScum
associations with poyz and PoE
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:20 pm
by ObviousScum
In post 881, Hectic wrote:It is technically possible that they recruit someone like Obum, to set him on a course to derail the next day. Which kinda fits with how he comes out attacking me/Farkran today. It'd make sense if you or Bla was the CL.
pretty bad attempt at poisoning the well there buddy
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:20 pm
by Kanna
I'm still more inclined to think Poyz is the rolecop and shos got recruited yesterday. His entry was very not town. CL is in the rest of us.
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:20 pm
by Hectic
Why did you vote Kanna end of day yesterday, Bla?
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:21 pm
by Blatant Scum
If shos is town, scum autoloses if CL is lynched (regardless of target) and no cultist is lynched. Korina is able to find CL.
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:22 pm
by Hectic
In post 883, ObviousScum wrote: In post 881, Hectic wrote:It is technically possible that they recruit someone like Obum, to set him on a course to derail the next day. Which kinda fits with how he comes out attacking me/Farkran today. It'd make sense if you or Bla was the CL.
pretty bad attempt at poisoning the well there buddy
Just throwing ideas out, buddy. I'm trying not to get in a game-losing 1v1 with you if you're town. Objectively speaking, your play so far today isn't really CL-like, considering you've flipped on a townread, and come out attacking probably the two most active players.
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:24 pm
by ObviousScum
but shos is obviously not town, so in your theory they had to cult poyz last night so that they can cult korina tonight after they bus one of their buddies
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:25 pm
by Blatant Scum
I liked Bingle so I wanted to present a counterwagoon.
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:25 pm
by ObviousScum
In post 887, Hectic wrote:Just throwing ideas out, buddy. I'm trying not to get in a game-losing 1v1 with you if you're town. Objectively speaking, your play so far today isn't really CL-like, considering you've flipped on a townread, and come out attacking probably the two most active players.
sure, fark's play today does seem to more fit the cult agenda so I could be wrong on you
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:29 pm
by Kanna
Why aren't you considering me, OS?
I'll come back when Korina says something because this game is too big brained for me. I still think Fark/Poyz makes the most sense and Fark's Poyzin push today is incredibly weird.
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:35 pm
by Hectic
So my current thinking is CL is Bla or Farkran.
In post 828, Farkran wrote:Option 1. Poyzin was an extremely lucky liar
Option 2. Shos orchestrated the plan to lynch twice
Either way, both lynches will likely land on cult today. Poyzin still has the highest CL equity of the two.
VOTE: poyzin
In post 829, shos wrote:VOTE: poyzin
I don't think I need to talk today at all
I didn't like Farkran's weird opening post here, but sh0s' vote after so badly aligns himself with Farkran, it's actually anti-CL points for him.
Kanna I'm discounting a little for being so anti-consensus yesterday. The list of random thoughts she posted seemed too nuanced for scum.
629 is the post.
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:37 pm
by Hectic
So who's good for CL today?
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:37 pm
by ObviousScum
In post 365, Poyzin wrote: In post 291, Farkran wrote:
I admit i am tunneling at this point, but why would you only consider Hectic and Kanna for that specific reasoning? I mean, even in your quotes they are mostly talking about me and my posts. How i am not included in that specific reasoning? I could see disagreement bias since i am pushing you, but i'd like to ask you what makes me less town than kanna and hectic from your POV if you assume i am pushing "player x" instead of "poyzin".
You’re probably town, but I don’t think I can make a proper read of your alignment based on your tunnel on me without it being impacted by my personal opinions about it. “No lynch” player is probably a cultist, but I’m not sure about if they are the cult leader.
Kind of curious if Kanna decides to say that they get “weak town” vibes off of my post that town read them; seems like Kanna wants to give me assurance that I’m “onto something” with my reads.
My vote isn’t really useful right now so I’m going to place it somewhere more useful.
VOTE: No łynch. This would be L-2.
There's a chance this is distancing but it feels more like opportunism to me
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:41 pm
by ObviousScum
In post 365, Poyzin wrote:You’re probably town, but I don’t think I can make a proper read of your alignment based on your tunnel on me without it being impacted by my personal opinions about it. “No lynch” player is probably a cultist, but I’m not sure about if they are the cult leader.
In post 556, Poyzin wrote:I’m confident Farkran is town, given that it is understandable to wagon me right now with my piss-poor apologies.
This is a terrible development actually and it's plausible Fark bussed Poyzin specifically so that he could hardclaim and out the power structure of the town
sure let's roll with it
VOTE: Fark
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:47 pm
by Farkran
Drop your tunnel, you're making no sense.
CL does not give a shit about bussing today, they do not need korina. Korina could only catch the CL during n1, he will NEVER, EVER be able to catch him again. Either he did, or he is now effectively a VT if not already culted.
Poyzin does have CL equity though. I do not understand why cult!shos would hold his FN target when he could just claim random bullshit?
I'll wait for korina to speak, that's my tiebreaker for today. If i get to believe poyzin was town, BS is my next bet.
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:51 pm
by Farkran
Post 896 is WRT my d2 introduction.
As for my bussing d1, that would make more sense. You're assuming shos is still town though, which i could agree with but will need developments first.
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:56 pm
by ObviousScum
In post 896, Farkran wrote:Drop your tunnel, you're making no sense.
CL does not give a shit about bussing today, they do not need korina.
interesting
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:03 pm
by Farkran
World 1. There are rolestopper and tracker. Cult recruits rolestopper. Korina gets his one chance to identify the CL, after which the CL won't act again because they are capped. Once they aren't capped anymore, they will recruit korina, who won't tell us the truth.
World 2. There is no rolestopper. Korina is already culted.